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tv   Close up  Deutsche Welle  March 26, 2019 11:30am-12:01pm CET

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i don't front. the rebel army and of the nine hundred ninety four genocide wasn't when all in all there was and went to ask of you in the tell me to reinforce that it was a new news but does that mean he was not following in the rules. of controversial leader or successors be controversial. the time was. one tragedy to start a war for t.w. . this sea of azoff lies between russia and ukraine and is shared by both nations however russia is increasingly imposing its sovereignty over the water as ukrainian fishermen are afraid the us is gross but the most the russian side could border control. of or you should run out there have to face all these russian security
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forces on their own what on earth is good for you. hardly any ships currently coming to ukrainian ports the economy is suffering at the hands of russian domination. civilian self-defense forces are training for a worst case scenario many of them fear an attack on the azoff region. bestir which we have to be prepared for a new wave of aggression from russia it's just a matter of time. yet. the fishing boat veer assets out from a port on the ukrainian side which has become somewhat of a rarity businesses not be good for vladimir chair or possibly the owner of the fishing company. each of them were not sailing along the canal to the port of
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bradley and sick of it are practically empty no freight ships in sight. which is in the. vicinity of as of borders russia and ukraine a treaty states that both countries have equal usage rights yet since the kurdish bridge opened linking russia to the annex crimean peninsula russia has been treating the sea as its own softened water as russia decides who is committed to sail on the sea and who is not. sort of us our ship is here the russian ship is in front of us. and one of their coast guards are on a ticket for the from the russian border control officers check everyone can ask each ship for its name the size of their crew their nationality we. really want to see how busy they are that the people are working they're getting on with their business. through the borders of. the ukrainians feel
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intimidated. it's one fifty one this is vera hello you won't be here is that correct yes we're staying here. the fishing zone lies far beyond the ukrainian ballet and the russians have control to be a chair post ski knows it's dangerous to have journalists on board his boat but he has another problem russia and ukraine have not yet agreed on common annual fishing quotas so the ukrainian authorities have banned all fishing activity while the russians continue to let their fishermen carry on glad to me i can't understand why he's not willing to cast his nets with the cameras running. one of. the ukrainian side could confiscate our fish which makes no sense at. but
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the russian side could cause problems to. the crites will stay empty today in recent weeks blood in me has been out fishing but he takes a risk when every douse. marvel of project frequently by the russians they inspect all their fishing permits and licenses they don't cause any trouble as long as everything is in order to get you but bizarre larry is the ukrainian saying that not everything is very hard. due to the on regulated fishing quota key have obviously wants to avoid any escalation on the c. of s. all of this means they are hurting their own fisherman in december blood in mia was not committed to go out to sea at all causing human loss of almost eighty thousand euros in january his catch was confiscated by the fishing authorities. the first time it took over the entire catch up a second time they only wanted half of it which we managed to prevent for is the
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logic in that. uncertain times on the ukrainian as off the coast which borders on the program separatist area in the east half a million people live in the port city of mario paul just a few kilometers from the war in eastern ukraine the city is surrounded by checkpoints. maria is afraid that the hostilities will go on for a long time she's preparing the population for the worst as an activist and officer she acts as a link between the army and civilians maria is travelling close to the front line to get a picture of the situation this area was previously occupied by russians but ukrainians were able to win back. the beef over there from the peak of that hill. they shoot at us. it's a rough. post an elevated position. so that area is currently occupied territory.
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as people are trying to build up something again here but the fields were mind back then you know that there is always shooting here even at civilian buildings. the people who live here are not necessarily political or super patriotic but but they do realise exactly where the shooting is coming from. the front line is only two kilometers away from. this war has already claimed the lives of more than ten thousand ukrainians. watch them all the young man fell in the war here he was born in one thousand nine hundred six but we can definitely expect a new wave of aggression from russia it's only a question of time. we have to be prepared. since the spring of twenty eighteen.
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and ukrainian sovereignty is clearly also being threatened from the sea of azoff we could say it is already occupied that's why we need decisive action now in the world this is not stopped it won't only be ukraine which suffers. back to mary opal a twenty minute drive. is from western ukraine the first language is ukrainian. almost half the population of mario bull is russian and russian is spoken on a daily basis there was serious clashes here after the annexation of crimea in twenty fourteen. the town hall was in flames when opponents of the new power in kiev tried to win the upper hand in the city but they failed mariya is convinced that russia was behind this attack. this is where people. the other two had been brought in by bus from russia they
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demonstrated here and occupied the town hall. but actually they set fire to car tires in the street. and chanting out slogans like not always that that get over here putin this place out there. they were trying to imitate a crimea scenario. going in the hopes of seizing this region just as quickly as crimea then claiming it as russian. it would dilute. the war has dramatic economic consequences to the city the port of mario paul estimates its losses since the outbreak of the war at two hundred million euros key cargo handling from the donbass region has declined when the russians built the crimean bridge it prevented large cargo ships from reaching the scene of as of russian instituted controls calls long delays and at the end of november the russians
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attacked ukrainian vessels for the shipping companies the journey is too expensive and too dangerous. the tugboats and not bringing cargo vessels with them today. exaggerate we feel like these two boats they sail out but they bring nothing back there's nothing behind them we work just like them we have strength of potential possibility but we can't use any of it that's our problem because something outside of our control is preventing us. the twins are. of now only work a four day week at the port for two thirds of their regular pay. for the oil it's more than an economic blockade on the whole region is being suffocated. all of the differences left on the ukrainian controlled territory depend on our port. state owned companies get support from kiev so far they have not been mass
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redundancies the twins and their colleagues are highly skilled dock workers but often all there is for them to do is clean work then this is all well paid work elite work that. the neighboring shipyard is experiencing tough times too with little actual work to do geishas teet cohen his colleagues passed the time playing dominoes. unlike the poor this privately owned firm does not receive state support. now again we're hoping that power will change hands in the next elections mine are the thing that being said. at the moment we spend most of our time sitting at home and our pay has been cut. the conflict should
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stop then everything will get easier. this shipyard has lost most of its income because sixty percent of the orders came from russia the longstanding company was successful during the time of design the soviet union and the new republic of ukraine so guys grandfather also worked at the shipyard. but otherwise i feel torn russia is close to my heart and ukraine is my home i wish they were brothers again as they used to be with you but i should be friendship again between russia and ukraine i can't be split into. the ruble. but it's bring it over here. at the moment there's only one ship in the dark but
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this still some work for sergei and his colleagues. you know the most political i think our manager is trying his best to do something but in this situation everything depends on the government because. the shipyard workers are worried about losing their jobs it's getting hard at the director only to reassure them. that the money if nothing else but you that i only have eleven months until i retire with a shipyard exist for that long it will it will can you guarantee that i'm really afraid of losing my job number one is the next ship coming in. is it your week we've still got twenty days of work to do with this ship. it's obvious we still have to change forty six valves which will be mean there's nothing else to do there will be more tomorrow the more we used to have two or three ships here we have three docks now there's just one work for as long as you can your cost and show.
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your children you don't feel i'm really pessimistic i mean you know. you know how things will go on here before parliament doesn't know what it's doing then things will soon look really grim we don't know the come what if there's another escalation of hostilities that the kurds bridge what they're going to be war what you would have no stability people are fleeing ukraine would be the thing you regard working of the card the free market what if i would like to go abroad too but i belong here and i don't want to leave my family in the city i'm too old for that. was that as you put the quote this situation is about to drag on the president is really super power schenkel said he would end the war within two or three weeks but he's been working on it now for five years. really this guy can really talk just like he's like a politician if he gets into parliament the others will have to look out. he's a really good worker to push. the fishing boat vieira has coming to the
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point this morning the crew brought in five and a half tons of saw deigns. it is a good day for the owner flemmi a check up of ski. cause how was it today unloading at the port it was were there any problems or issues in z. additional to the most people from the fishing authorities were there again you know they want anything from you know no problem with your not like last time when you went because they show your document banning us from fishing to the no nothing they just watched how we had loaded the fish is it with you didn't touch anything just because you never i showed them our permits and that was all. i did it was a different story with catches a video taken by the fishing authorities claim that vladimir was poaching for him
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the video is proof that he wanted to protect his catch from the fishing. without paying a bribe. please do you think on the. well if you analyze what this video shows it confirms that these law protectors only turned up to put a system in place where they can extract bribes and bonuses in the butt out in. just three years. old i'm explaining to them here that it won't work with me. was not as the aggressor here that's what i'm fighting against now i'm only they do it with the way a. lot of me his company processes the fish it catches but its future is
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tenuous. the working hours of his staff have already been cut to three days awake. do if i was a going my know things could be better but what can you do. just that but of course it's hard to make ends meet with such low wages but we understand and hope things will pick up in ukraine with the work situation until i find general. vladimir has had to sell two of his three ships he was committed to keep part of his catch this year but the fishing authorities still reported him for poaching. medulla i don't think it's right to take an official word from us one member but in the current situation it's impossible for us to defend our rights system and the remains are already had to lay off our staff you know to board the bridge for us here when there's been a border security. let me
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a chair is now facing legal action. on the outskirts of mario paul this is the home of shipyard workers so again. the front line of the separatist area is not far away in twenty four seeing the war reach these residential blocks. to all of a sudden there were explosions i took my wife and daughter into the corridor and covered them up on the ground as the explosions were going off the window pane shattered and black smoke filled the apartment we couldn't see anything when it stank. after things had calmed down we looked outside and everything was inflamed by starting is going to come and look for august so people were screaming and there were dead and injured people lying on the street. no harm no to the critters all of the novel that i knew in the. the family is trying to lead a normal life. so gaye's wife reno works for the city's tax authorities his
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daughter victoria is studying law in odessa and is currently home for the holidays . i think i'll probably stay in a desa yes i think that's what i want to do through it. she only wants to return when there is peace if this doesn't happen soon so gay is not ruling out the worst case what of russia would probably annex the whole of ukraine it's a lot stronger than us. there could even be a world war if other countries got involved that would be a catastrophe for. the other end of. the village. this is where the dock workers are live since their working hours have been cut they have been focusing more on their wine business. that. is in your water the real work starts in a month's time. that's when the buying the grapes. at the moment the grapes are
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resting it's like they're hibernating. some of the grapes are sold to bolster the household finances the twins also grow their own vegetables. or whatever but our wages are just enough to pay for the electricity water and gas the price of gas alone has gone up twelve times more than it was five years ago. the increase in gas prices is a direct result of the conflict with russia things were different five years ago as the grenades were flying sunday asked his father to build a bunker. just. sure enough there you are right it is your home you were the first to light the candle back then to. as a novel of. mississippi even if my wife was five months pregnant back then and my son was six when he came to us with this idea and said don't be afraid i know how to keep you safe. when you boys. you could hear
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gunfire just two kilometers away. not very good as i had the idea of bringing candles matches and everything necessary so we could live here i didn't manage to do this. at first my wife and i were shocked that he wanted to prepare everything so we could stay here in safety in case the bombs came. and i did so then i reinforced the feeling with metal good as. we put in new beams and poured concrete over them. i mean the list is a little they really didn't know. what and now we can store good wine here. in the. our chairman is trying to create a good life for his family which has ukrainian and russian roots he wants the
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children to have a normal upbringing without fear. built most of the things in his home himself and never wants to be forced to leave it. still the parents have prepared for the worst case. flitter if work breaks out again here it's my responsibility to drive the children to a safe place. my husband will stay here in the house when i am not and make sure it doesn't get looted just yet there's reason to with not one single human life should be sacrificed for political ambitions and quarrels i would . rather have two related nations have based their hands in blood so they should forgive one another and another stand that they have to find a compromise nothing good kind of arise if there isn't a dialogue she said she i tell my children learn to talk to people learn to argue
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your position without using weapons you know. so far there's been difficult chance for dialogue the ceasefire governed by the treaty of minsk is repeatedly broken. glory to ukraine glory to our hero saw that in the evening maria visits all of n.p.r. in the headquarters of the organization new mary opal she is the coordinator here and wants to talk about the training of the civilian self-defense forces the next day. along with supporting the army knew mary opal is dedicated to fighting progress and propaganda. the population was totally disoriented and twenty fourteen. they had been fed russian propaganda for years. russia
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or since the russians. most of them want to restore the russian empire they still have this imperial thinking the whole world is russia this is a russian city we should govern it. as they've been trying to change our way of thinking for centuries but i supported you in some cases it worked. for instance even i speak russian but. at nine o'clock the next morning the volunteers line up for a roll call at a military compound near the say. she is. very. very matter. for their training the group goes to the nearby beach men from all backgrounds to hear from the doctor to the simple worker . from new mary opal takes part two he's
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a programmer in the local steelworks. the men practice armed warfare under the instruction of a training officer. group. so hang on one man covers and the other one. never decide who's number one and who is number two to just now i'm not afraid if we have to then we'll fight as patriots we have to lead the way when it comes. back to. the second largest port city on the ukrainian azoff coast ninety kilometers away from mario. fishing company owner vladimir. is on his way to court the court proceedings against him begin today he's accused of poaching. with the support of his lawyer latimeria wants the court to grant him permission to fish undisturbed the on regulated fishing quotas
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between kiev and moscow have created a legal vacuum flatter me it is fighting so that he and his staff do not have to be penalized for it. mr mishra to them what about the paperwork of what you need anything else of interest. we've got everything. the most important thing is that we have the original permits. and the most important thing is that there here is a solution. the court hearing is due to start at eight thirty. vladimir is called into the judge's office but just for a few minutes the hearing is postponed neither the fishing authorities nor the public prosecutor were invited see wouldn't. today i did not get a court decision which would have made it clear whether i'm right or they are
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that's the worst thing there's uncertainty. so i'm deeply disappointed but if the way this country is governed i see absolutely no future and no prospect for you at this moment. on the ukrainian azoff coast thousands of people's livelihoods depend on fishing these men have not been out to sea since early december the fishermen are old acquaintances of lot m.e.'s. so the news just like before none of us have been able to see so there is no ban but there isn't a permit either. look oh yes a. of course it's a slap in the face a lot of russian fishermen are still out working. but we're not allowed to when you was a little bored by now but we need clear rules this uncertainty has us living in constant tension this is our life now it's. corporate.
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some of the stool easiest thing is to open it up look inside clean everything and then it might work again but you used to do it so well something the temperature changed over three months and it's been down it has an effect on it. so that's right it's not good for the engine not to be running yes just standing idle for three months is no good to us or the boss and these are the effect of our ban on going out to sea. look there out there i would not follow yes there are always two to three russian ships patrolling. the sister she and her family the fact that they have weapons on board is also one settling for us it was the way it was in most. of them yes that's why we didn't drop anchor we just wanted to get home fast they were pretty
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close to the shore six or seven kilometers they were warships and i got a really cool. russia is definitely in the wrong occupying the coast. but on the other hand there is no feeling of confidence if there is no order. don't you believe you that if our government maintains order then hats off to them. if someone else has to maintain the order here then sorry here that would be what kind of weak government do we have us with a go or did you just probably. use nuclear if you crane doesn't allow fish from ukraine under the ukrainian market then i'll take my fish to russia change my flag and apply for political asylum but he's just. a nice job and you know it we still love you but i don't know how much longer it'll last you.
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