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so i don't need to reinforce the colors of the news but does that mean the was not floating in a group. of controversial leaders who successors beyond question. time. wanted tragedy starts people fish on t w. a sense of urgency no emergency the british parliament tonight is trying yet again to find a plan before breaks it before the country leaves the european union next week prime minister teresa mayes breaks a deal has now been rejected three times by lawmakers she is reportedly planning a fourth go at it and that is no april fool's joke yes april starts today but it could also mark the end of may go off in berlin this is the day.
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i'm going to suppose it's important decisions to make today these dreams wasteful it. actually is i mean i think it's about time that we demonstrated to this dysfunctional government that there is a way a country faces the prospect on thursday week over leaving without a deal to me definition to me what you need means is very very simple to do the commons is negotiating is a good compromise the only the government can negotiate on behalf of the united kingdom we can't have the full groups of the n.p.c. from say that chances are you call that the trial for us we vote because we want to give the show to politics. also coming up tonight ukrainians have narrowed it down to two candidates in the upcoming presidential
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election on the ballot this man the incumbent known as the chocolate baron and his challenger the comedian he's never been a politician but he plays one on t.v. yeah but i miss that i really think that we have such a big. such amazing people unique you ninety eight creative and warm this is our first big victory to get a truly i'm just a. he you threw a great things ahead for us. once of our viewers on p.b.s. in the united states and all the around the world welcome we begin the day walking into a new month but britain carrying the same breaks it back tonight in the house of commons in london lawmakers are voting again and trying again to find a break that way forward that can win a majority last friday in peace rejected a prime minister to resign. a third time and they missed the deadline for
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triggering a longer breaks a delay of may twenty second now breaks it begins next week on april twelfth tonight's votes could move closer we understand to maybe a customs union solution or a second bridge that referendum there's even talk of new elections and even the prime minister reportedly wants one more go with her bruised and battered breaks it bob. so for all these process has been a shambles of the public all holding almost in contempt their political parties and their politicians and the institutions of government today we've got to start to bring that to an end we have lost the also politics because we have become gridlocked by the politics of position we have taken our positions usually in groups and effectively going to war against all the other groups this motion should appeal to all of us as democrats because this decision of such importance for the united kingdom between revocation
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a new deal ought to be one for the representatives of the people in this parliament i'm not for the prime minister of a minority government constructing a compromise is not easy nor is the real noise ation that you may not get everything that you want to other people's views and interests matter but it is best if you get off on life nothing until. they're debating. tonight to talk about that i'm joined here at the big table. alex forrest whiting a familiar face here especially when it's said and are forced funded is in london to buy the new book and we're going to start with you where are we right now in the voting in the house of commons. right now here in harlem and where we are m.p.'s have voted so their votes are being counted on these new options so the m.p.'s want to find an alternative to treason may steal and as
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you've explained most likely a form of soft of bricks and so not treason maze deal that takes the u.k. out of the single market the customs union votes exactly these options are on the table and the really interesting thing will be whether there is a majority for any of them so you've played some sound bites and i've also for debate the debate and it is interesting that some m.p.'s have said well even though this might not be what we really wanted but we have to we have to compromise we have to find a solution we have to break the deadlock out of this brics it's you know is chaos really and now is a vote of truth will they really have rallied behind one option you know it's just a question is there one option that is more likely to get a majority tonight well last week nothing got a majority but the two that to particularly well was the customs union and also putting any deal back to the people for a vote so a referendum
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a second people's vote as big it has said the soft bricks it ideas here a do seem to be rallying more support labor is supporting those so whether the u.k. stays in a whole customs union a whether the u.k. stays in the customs union and the single market but the problem is that two reason may doesn't want those as well red lines no customs union because a customs union will prevent the u.k. from striking trade deals with anyone outside the e.u. that defeats the purpose of the no single market because that would allow freedom of movement immigration and so those are the two things that she's been standing against the problem is her party parliament. cabinet completely split over the whole issue of bricks it say which ever way she tons is going to alienate one hoff's a very difficult time and whether any of those options can get a majority well we just have to wait and see you used the word alienated i mean
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there's alienation i think happening on both sides of the channel particularly in the last couple of weeks bad blood bad breaks and blood i want you to take a listen to what germany's junior foreign minister michael roth what he had to say had some very choice words this past weekend for those who gave birth to brussels to take a listen. when people put their faith in the hands of nationalists and populists they'll be betrayed brigs it as a big pile of or put it in diplomatic words. knowing what ninety percent of the people sitting in the british cabinet have no idea how wage earners think live and go about their lives but it's those people who have messed up and now everyone else has to pay the price somebody pontotoc to her by name i mean that's an angry politician i mean we can't even repeat everything you said i mean i can say it's a four letter word and it rhymes with it so you know i mean germany is playing
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a role in briggs both politically but also. invested economically in the business world yeah that's right and today we just heard from the chief executive of the industrial manufacturer siemens a german company he's a chief executive in the u.k. and he said all the political chaos in the u.k. is making the u.k. a lot of things stock we also know that b.m.w. mini in the u.k. has closed print stopped production for four weeks it is time that six months ago because the u.k. was supposed to be leaving the e.u. last friday and that hasn't happened so that's difficult for them we've also heard from the german industry federation the beady eye who are warning that actually a no deal breaker so no deal or two with the e.u. could harm germany it could cut it could hit job so very real concerns here and i think most of you can see i'm going to matt merkel the german chancellor play
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a more a launch a role a more prominent role in this she's going to dublin on thursday to meet with the irish prime minister leo veronica because that seems to be a big fear that perhaps island is not prepared enough for a no deal what would that mean for holland border between island and northern ireland and so we're beginning to see probably more of a play. gemini at the moment yeah i mean germany europe realizing what they've got invested in what the cost will be of a new deal breaker bigot and it seems that europe is now terrified of a crash in what he can do to the economy that fear it doesn't seem to be as strong in the u.k. as we've seen for the past two years i mean would you agree. it really depends who you are as a kid brand i mean ses on the leave site they say no deal no problem i've seen protests to see
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a lighting up and they think well we just leaves town how this will be managed it will they called it a managed no deal some of the brics it is whereas the e.u.'s said well if it's no deal this is no deal and it's not going to be managed in a major way but we also know that in britain industry and also the unions are very afraid of the economic damage this could do in fact the head of the biggest employer organisation the c.b.i. together with the head of the trades union congress they have issued a joint letter just very recently to actually urged the reason made to change course and to develop herself in a town a division or at least work together with the m.p.'s to try and find a solution to this impasse so really. not to stand on her red lines but to just show more flexibility and show a way forward a solution to all of this you know maybe a solution will emerge tonight we're going to stay on that story begin mosque in
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london and here in the studio with me now is forced wanting to both of you thank you. in ukrainian politics electing a president is no laughing matter or maybe it is tonight a comedian with no political experience has secured a strong lead in the first round of the country's presidential elections. will face incumbent petro poroshenko in a runoff in three weeks. unwinding with a game of ping pong a lot in here is a lengthy the dark horse candidate celebrated his big win with a party at a trendy kiev nightclub a location that underscores his popularity with young voters. the forty one year old capitalized on frustration over rampant corruption and a faltering economy but he has yet to spell out what he would do in power one of
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his campaign slogans was no promises no apologies zelinsky is basically a screen under which many ukrainians project their expectations he didn't make strong polish the stance of the point so it's very difficult to say who actually is the last you will be should he be elected. selenski came to the candidacy by way of a hit t.v. show called servant of the people where he plays an outsider elevated to the presidency but off screen he may not be entirely outside the system critics say he's in the pocket of an oligarchy who owns the t.v. channel that program and who opposes president petro poroshenko to many the incumbent has failed to fix everything that's wrong about ukraine corruption and low living standards which if you were to me this election is like another made on protest the third mass protest shocker for deciding where country will be in ten to
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fifteen years time we're choosing the country or children and grandchildren will be living you know she did you. see is number one of course i'm satisfied we voted for selenski everything is cool though we didn't expect poroshenko to make it into the second round everyone's dance the runner up with. everyone including yulia timoshenko herself the former prime minister is a heroine of the country's pro western movement she spent years in jail on what she says were politically motivated charges she called the exit polls dishonest and asked supporters to wait for final results. the central election commission said no systematic violations had been registered during the poll despite allegations of widespread vote buying when acknowledging more than two thousand complaints the body said reports of irregularities would be reviewed but none required immediate action. there he lived is a member of ukraine's parliament he quit president poroshenko as parliamentary
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group over the handling of corruption and he became one of mr lensky advisers he spoke with the w.'s nick. what does zelinsky mean for ukraine. changes so this election in ukraine was quite unusual because. when it was. broadcast and all brought eastern candidates like russian speaking ukrainian speaking they frame of whole campaign was old and new old against new against old it means that society was very eager to have changes to have politicians who can destroy the status quo of oligarch elites of the stablish one two and rich people become so rich poor becomes war and oligarchs indeed themselves including current president who is the main only god as for today in ukraine that is why they made the choice and if you look at numbers old politicians number two and number three.
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they have less in the result than exist because of course he has various limited political experience but i believe nobody waiting for likely strong deep knowledge about everson from human people for moral leader who can say that i want to destroy the status quo i believe he would not be a puppet of comiskey he will successful as an individual as a business and media market much before when he started to broadcast the show some call mosca to a channel he's actually directed by the people and he has to serve this people as it was a movie seventh of people so he is somehow holstege of his character of his birth against and movie since he declared this in movies he cannot behave differently because in in different case it is nonsensical. when ukraine has become a focal point of nato following russia's annexation of five years ago in fact
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russia is the old nemesis of the security in order that nato was founded to defend later this week to mark the ally. his seventieth anniversary they have secretary general you don't bag will address the u.s. congress ukraine will no doubt be a topic a u.s. house speaker nancy pelosi invited to speak his acceptance since a message to donald trump the u.s. president and his policies have left u.s. allies including nato wondering do the old rules still apply a question tonight for my guest who is considered an authority on geopolitics security and the role of the u.s. in our world order his latest book the jungle grows back america and our imperiled world is a warning of what our global order could become if the u.s. were no wonder its guarantor he served in the u.s. state department during the reagan presidency and is now with the brookings
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institution in washington d.c. i'm happy to welcome tonight to the day robert kagan who joins us from washington mr kagan it's good to have you on the program i want to ask you what is the purpose of mr stoltenberg address to congress is he strengthening the ties that bind or is he trying to save those ties that trump has not already sever. well i suppose you could say he's doing both i think it's a very strong statement by i parson the majority in congress that they support and continue support and then alliance that served american interests so well over seven percent and here is and i do think they are sending a clear signal to president truman who has raised doubts about the american and it's a nato in a way that we've not seen since that alliance was first organized the worries at nato are they a symptom of
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a greater unraveling. well i think so i mean that look at the heart of this security alliance is the american commitment it was an extraordinary commitment it was an unusual commitment it was certainly a product of circumstances post world war two the dawn of the cold war and i think it even before donald trump there were increasing questions among many americans as to whether we really need to have this commitment whether it's in america's interest and donald trump has not come forward and said about as clearly as any american president has ever said that maybe this is not in or interest now i think i one hopes and this is what congress is trying to do to the american people understand how important this relationship is but if the united states loses interest than yes it does unravel there is no medo without the united states and i would argue there's no guarantee of european security and stability without an american role and i think all those things are at risk right now you are right that
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authority authoritarianism as emerged as the great challenge facing the liberal democratic world authoritarianism replacing the soviet communist threat and russia of course being right there in the front line is the is the future or world order is it one that is going to be determined by strong men leaders. well you know it's interesting to remember that authoritarianism and the rule of strong dictatorships monarchy is absolute as regimes that is the the older challenge that liberal democracy has faced that space ever since the birth of liberal democracy in the eighteenth century. in a way it was temporarily replaced by the threat of communism but i think what we're seeing now is a return to the sort of the old struggle between liberal democracy and authoritarian
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regimes and yes the regimes are getting stronger russia may not be as physically stronger but i think who feels more confident i think he articulated a critique of liberal democracy which appeals not only to his own people but also to many in the west we see having tremendous influence inside europe and even having his supporters in the united states and of course in asia china is a great model of a fairly successful kamel of authoritarian government to together i think are putting a lot of pressure on the liberal democratic world are there exceptions to that mr kagan and i'll ask you. regarding turkey europe watches turkey very carefully and over the weekend turkey president erred on his a game party and took a beating in municipal elections i mean how do you explain that loss for him india and the fact that he basically he's crees crackdown on society civil society
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he controls the media he's one of these strong men you would think he would have a firm grip on on the narrative and the reality but he just lost an election. well a lot of the would be strong men who have been living fundamentally in the liberal democratic world have been forced to some extent to play by that world rules and when they do play by those least to some extent they are always at risk of being repudiated as erewhon least seems to have been to some extent in this most recent vote and so the question now is how does he respond if you know if you look in the in the roughly the same region you look at what's happening in egypt where presidency is about to make himself effectively president for life in venezuela you see with duro under tremendous pressure but still holding on and so the question is not whether someone like errol one can perhaps have a setback politically but how does he respond to that setback these days strong men
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are tending to clamp down when they are threatened you mentioned the rise of china german chancellor angela merkel yesterday she gave an answer it sounded like an answer to u.s. pressure on europe and on her country not to allow the chinese company who wait to build those five g. networks i want to take a listen to what she said yesterday in that even duffy i don't think we should exclude anyone per se we should rather make sure we set the right standards for our networks and make companies out here to them all done off stand by mr kagan is that a clear rebuke to washington and i'm wondering when i hear the leader of germany say that how does that fit into the global order that is taking shape. well i think it is real it raises real questions about the coherence of the alliance and of the end of the liberal world order in general i think you know it's
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not surprising that germans don't feel particularly eager the sort of fall in line with the trump administration's approach even on something like a chinese company when they try to the station is also targeting germany and other countries with tariffs of one kind or another against steel and aluminum and threatening tariffs against cars i mean this is in a way this is what trump reaps with the kind of aggressive trade policy with doubts that he's raised about these relationships and that he wants to turn around and expect germans and others to sort of comply and go along with american wishes no i wish we could be all your solid in dealing with the challenge posed by chinese technology not so much their companies but this is the this is the harvest that we're everything as a result of american policies but it's almost self-defeating isn't it for europe or germany to take this stance because they know the threat that china poses one could
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. pose it is this almost a willful naivete or a willful blindness that is a rising and as an answer to donald trump. well look first of all germany has always been eager to make sure it has access to the chinese market germany is an export driven economy it wants to be able to do business in china there that this is the first time they've been disagreements between the united states and germany and assume the united states is also wanted to do business in china but i do think that if we're looking for a kind of solidarity of the democracies the united states has to take the lead in that i think i don't know whether in this case this is what's happening but i think if we continue on the path we're on germans are going to start feeling like well we can't really rely on the americans so we're going to have to have good relations with china and possibly even with russia this is the sort of you know the kind of
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geo political world that i think american policy is leading us toward we've got about forty five seconds use to think of what about the role of diplomacy is there a role for diplomacy in this these strong arm leaders that are shaping things well this there's certainly room for diplomacy but i think you know as everyone every american statesman from dean acheson on has always said you can't have successful the flotus the unless it's backed by power and determination and most importantly a united alliance you know when a country like russia or china has to deal with united alliances whether it's the united states and japan and korea and australia on one side or whether russia has to deal united nato and the united states we're in a strong position and then diplomacy can succeed but when they see is a fractured alliance then we are weaker and then diplomacy doesn't succeed robert
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kagan senior fellow with the brookings institution joining us tonight from washington d.c. mr king we appreciate your insights tonight thank you. thank you well the day is almost done the conversation continues online you can see there how to get in touch with us and tell us what you think the future use the hash tag the day remember whatever happens between now and then tomorrow is another day to see that.
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is really goes to the polls it could be a close race for many netanyahu israel's prime minister is still favored in the upcoming election. she's ations her option and ongoing conflicts have split the voters. is a political opponents have a forged come from. the mob so in ninety minutes.
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i'm not laughing at the germans well i guess sometimes i am but i said nothing with the camera but i don't think stevens or gemma culture. new don't seem ridiculous drama dayo sleep because it's all about who they know i'm rachel join me for me to get bundled up last. night and gemini with. at any time cutler any place using names. yeah i don't like the beatles quite so much to sing along to see this to come to you from super seats. for. interactive exercises. everything is online most vile and interactive benjamin to flame please do tell you. where the real power resides. i come from there are lots of people in
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the from. los. waiting the results says britain's parliament tries yet again to find a way forward. have voted on for alternatives to the government's divorce deal with the european union pressure to find a majority is intense with just eleven days before the crash. also coming up. president. battling to weeks of protests calling for an end to his twenty year rule.

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