state. bots we begin with a nigerian author and poet who came to fame in the nineteen nineties when he was the youngest ever winner of the booker prize one of the world's top literary awards since then he's written novels plays and poems and he may not call himself this but believe me he's a philosopher too he's here in berlin to open the african book festival and will be my guest in a minute after this report. back in berlin award winning russia have been our cravings it's the german capital every now and then sometimes as a tourist sometimes a director and now because of. this sixty year old lives and works in london dockery was born in one area and spent his formative years between the two countries after finishing high school chris studied comparative literature at essex university passion for literature started at an early age. the real

turning point for me was my father's library. bought a great collection of books from england. and my job was to dust them every day. my father was totally doest the books but don't read them. in one thousand nine hundred one or korea was awarded the prestigious man booker prize for fiction to his novel the famished road the book addresses the coexistence of the spiritual and material worlds through the life of a spirit child living in an unnamed nigerian city. the river became a road. on the road branched out to the whole world. because the road was once a river it was always hungry. the author is in berlin to headline the african book festival which starts on thursday and of crete is a philosopher a mesmerizing and thought provoking author and someone who's not afraid to step up

and speak his mind. joins me now thank you very much thank you for correcting me about the pronunciation if you're not serious a pleasure to be and i'm glad you disobey joe father and read the books i think everybody is you said the famished wrote the book a prize winning book you wrote it to give yourselves reasons to live things evolves it changed a great deal for you since then so what inspired the new book the freedom artist i think i wrote the freedom artist. asked myself some of the central questions that i fear faces us as human beings and faces us in our times how free are we. what are we prisoners of what ideas what cultural assumptions what political ideology is what limited visions of the world we prisoners of

and indeed the book which i have here as the freedom artist it has a title almost or sometimes above it who is the prisoner can you reveal that or can anybody reveal that you know i think if you have to read the book and you have to do a lot of contemplation you have to ask yourself awkward questions it's a it's a question directed at the world on an individual it's a piece of graffiti it's an act of rudeness all great questions are a bit rude. and it also in the book. this is the sleek police i also came across the phrases to be like everyone else was the highest distinction a citizen could hope for in a few pages later it had therefore been decided that everyone would be spied on this for me has shades of elders huxley's great book brave new world was that intentional and inspiration that side yes the freedom artist is very much in a very great tradition. outspoken books about the human

condition books that are these or could questions books like brave new world ninety two full cup because the trial. their books of the twentieth century their books. look at. the state the individual in the state when the state has become or could. and difficult illusion to the individual and i feel we're living in a strange time the idea for this before about twenty years. but it's only recently that the food pressure of it became necessary this leads me on to the inevitable question about. the subject concerning your adopted country written before we talk next from a poem you wrote about bricks it you told me to read it so i will have delegated do that yes wonderful responsibility just a little

a little bit to fold is not to fall from space or height it is to fall from unity from one but it is easier to walk out than to work it out easier to fall apart than to stay together the romance of independence of freedom is stronger than the truth of unity. bearing that in mind and also in your new book you talk of a fictional society that is tearing itself apart is that what's happening in britain now do you feel yes i think britain has been the most divided i've known it in all the years i've been. division is is it's not a superficial one it's actually very deep very passionate. and i don't know how it's going to be healed because it's not just a philosophical division it's. it's a deep question of identity and history you also wrote

a very beautiful poem about the grand disaster. tragedy i should say really cow cunt poetry help in situations like that terrible tragedy and indeed breaks it if you're not i think most in poetry is eminently good it is. touching the so. it's good it resonates and i humanity is good at reminding us. of the things our connect us. poetry is very powerful helping us to really. and really appropriate. humanity. very briefly. i don't revive president of penn the worldwide association of writers which of course concerns itself with freedom of speech. i have feeling the feeling that things are getting worse for journalism writers very briefly do you yes things are getting worse for certain for journalists because in many troubled areas where

journalists must speak the truth and when you speak the truth in those places sometimes are killed i have a very good friend who died. she was a legendary reporter. but i think that just strengthens actually the necessity of what writers and journalists and poets do absolutely but all creates been a pleasure having you here thank you very much and the other brothers on mine thank you. now our continuing series baking bread where our europe correspondent mathis is investigating this staple from every e.u. member states all twenty seven of them or perhaps twenty eight if he does britain very soon also yog fills us in on the local political situation as he's needing to and talking of dealing with it is an important part of the multis economy.

if you say someone spread is. it means that person has a lot of dough. letterbox companies gambling and tax avoidance of the bread and butter of the e.u. smallest state regulation no thanks who wants to do with ours but all this for all capers on their bread especially on a traditional multis slice. it's an undercover operation traditionally multis bread is made from sourdough the dough needs to prove over night and in the morning all is exposed but if you've come to this the dark on someone you better be careful. a journalist who investigated corruption in high places was murdered in broad daylight. her stories

involved money laundering tax avoidance the sale of e.u. passports to rich foreigners in multi everything is thrown together in our recipe to. water yeast olive oil salt sourdough and of course flour six hundred fifty grams of plain flour and one hundred fifty grams of strong bread flour that's one gram of strong bread flour that flows into a multi bank account. every. vote total of one hundred fifty billion one multis idiom has it multiple never refused any wheat in other words never look at gift horse in the mouth. now we need to work the dough just like several you committees. probed mulder's justice minister over a. tough laugh tough needing eight minutes in the food processor he

hasn't lost his bread as they say in malta meaning his job in fact nobody has lost their job in the wake of the journalist murder. brussels is demanding action malta needs to show to europe and indeed the world its rules and regulations are healthy and robust. and healthy and robust as monti's bread sourdough is a top helper for the intestinal police good bacteria that wash out the toxins and double the dough in just two to three hours. but don't wait too long or gluten britches will collapse something else has experience off. now poor out the dough and handle with kid gloves just like multi continues to treat those mega-corporations. finally bake for thirty minutes at two hundred

fifty degrees celsius on a hot stove just like malta the island has always been a sunny stepping stone between continents for the greeks the romans the arabs the normans the french and the british. but at some point the fire went out for all of them no guns are now demanding this for all the shady dealings to. cause another multi. you can't buy heaven for money and why would you with bread like this simply defy. that soul for today we leave you with some quotes from our guest ben okorie which may give you some food for thought thanks for watching and join us at the same time tomorrow if you come by.

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credible but to me. in seventy five minutes on e.w. . thank. you. here's what's coming up on the bundesliga so much movement in the police think of this. plenty to talk about here want to go live it's time to take a look at what all that means for the type of politically if the bond is legal every weekend here on t w. how to cover more than just one reality. where i come from we have a transatlantic way of looking at things that's because my father is from germany my mother is from the united states of america and so i realized fairly early that

it makes sense to explain the different realities. i'm out here at the heart of the european union in brussels we have twenty eight different realities and so i think people are really looking for any journalist they can trust for them to make sense of place clinton is back talking about work at the dublin. nato secretary general yen stoltenberg has marked the alliance is seventieth anniversary in an address to the u.s. congress so it's said to nato is not seeking a new arms race all cold war with russia but he called for greater efforts at the terence and from member countries to increase by defense spending.