extravagant. feeling. like carbs because boeing stephanie. parting. from around the world. every week. the situation in venezuela could hardly be more complex the united states along with some two dozen countries is backing the new interim leader one way though russia and china support the incumbent nicolas maduro how's it going to play out my guest this week here in brussels is cloud yes i let him know there are always venezuela's ambassador to the european union with the record of appalling human

rights abuses does mr maduro deserve to stay in office. gauthier some level welcome to conflicts thank you in the afternoon of the january twenty fourth in the slum of. in caracas the twenty seven year old man you hendry for non-dance was stopped by police officers at gunpoint and asked if he had a criminal record he replied yes the officers then dragged him into an alley and shot him dead with two bullets in the chest this according to his family and the witness if you are president is doing this to your people why should he stay in office. i don't have any recordings regarding this incident at least no formal.

oh i don't know if the if you have a report from the ministry of public ministry if you make that no it is. what you are stating this isn't the first for such a thing has been reported by draw in the next day the police the police special action force knows fire has killed as many as ten people and taken a dozen hundred prisoners this according to four local community leaders there again i ask you if this is what the president is doing it used people why should you stay in office for the first things i have to ensure school records if these are created crimes that are being committed is not the precedent the one that hour is going at the pain all responsibility is direct and personal the buck stops with him murder of his own people the buck stops with him it always does the panel responsibility and the crime one is a personal an individual one cannot be an object if a collective it is responsibility but secondly these people are never brought to

justice secondly only the public ministry is the one is the institution able to announce and those those kind of issues and prosecutions should be done if that is the games that should be reported to the authorities to be investigated i'm not saying no i'm just saying that the channels are there and the institutions are there to complain and to follow investigations regarding whatever that or whatever crime the happen in any country both of these killings which is business as usual with the with julie witnessed by families and communities as the government tended they should be as a warning to other people wasn't it that is choi interpretation of things again the families always have the ministry of public i mean the physically at all when endings intuitions open to make the investigations that are required it's just very don't seem to be making those investigations and widespread human rights. reports

have talked about the impunity continuing impunity for repeated crimes of this nature over many years this isn't something new one reason it may have happened in the last couple of weeks but this has been a pattern which has been widely documented and reported on by international bodies and countries and human rights reports as well as those in your own country so i'm going to report you to the only body that actually is allowed and there to follow up this kind of complexities and the reality is not opinions of organizations. are based on facts that is part of the human rights council in the un and we actually has been condemned in the human no way others here will have the wrong information we presented our report last year and we came out with only eleven recommendations and all of them were fulfilled and pretty much the same time as the latest killings were taking place you gave an interview the ones that he was shown happened because i we don't have any people you gave an interview to the magazine

socialist in which you said maduro always dealt with the critical situation with love and always with an open hand to dialogue with the most radical of groups. shooting people in the slums is a sign of the president's love it and his open hand then again you are making your conjectures about a situation you have no thing at least as from now announcing your document that pain whatever claim is you are making in the second hand i have to say yes he handled to very difficult situations of riots where very violent in the country that were promoted by some and a few. parties in the country and those riots were handled with a lot of loss and actually kept the country in peace afterwards with all these killings you had you know your claim was well it is not me who's claiming the human

rights groups but your presence in your every nord all the warnings that has been given by the international community including one last month from the high commissioner for human rights un human rights the senior un human rights official who warned him not to repeat what she called the pattern of repression previously documented by the un human rights bodies you claim you got a good bill of health in particular she said the widespread arbitrary detentions restrictions to freedom of assembly and expression and indiscriminate house raids and attacks that is the view of the senior un if you mean rights official she reviews documents we took note of it and i am did nothing about it let me inform you because you are asking me right after these a statement made by her she received a formal invitation from the government and it's about to happen the visit. to the country in these next few days do you think she didn't know what she was talking

about when she said this is not that is patterns of repression previously documented in your paris i wouldn't not even there to say that she doesn't know what she's talking about but actually the only system that the u.n. has provided it's. to prove what is happening is actually in the ground and that didn't happen until now that the government actually hand a hand to invite her formally in she's about to go in the next few days as i said according to the venezuelan group forum pena the number of political prisoners estimated that in the last year was two hundred and thirty this is a network of defense lawyers who act for free how many more opponents of your president are going to be arrested while he clings to power. the first thing that we need to solve with the foot of canal and all the bodies that are claiming a bow or making the denounces about political prisoners is the actually the

concept of what it is a political crime i don't think many of the people there are right now being prosecuted by the by the public ministry are there because of their political views but actually the law is seriously i mean they are. two hundred and thirty at least they are not political prisoners in my country they are really nasty that are only to shun the speaker is a different thing i'll come back to the violence later but i want to draw attention first to an interview which you go just over a year ago in which you claimed proudly that for the last eighteen years venezuela had been showing the world that socialism could work. millions of voltage with their feet and flood your country the economy is in freefall with the world's highest annual inflation rate as you know of one point seven million percent and the us and the organization of american states accuse you of

a pattern of repression and this is socialism working means that it is hard to explain why the socialist pertussis trophy since it let's be honest about it no the only catastrophic thing is actually the decision made by the government of the us since two thousand and fifteen that declare asked in our country a thread and an. amazing thread for the security of the us and since then acting against our economy and our financial freedoms to be able to handle economically the country so of course even with our circumstances of blockage and right now recently. a more critical approach to our commercial limits. holding actually our goods and our accounts internationally telling the country to be able to trade freely even though in that circumstance as the country is providing to its people when you said that they are millions flying they are three

million they left the country that is the number that actually home mind its international organization it's from the un it's from the organization i remember and i mean it's very well i give you u.n. numbers actually only one point seven according to the result the original agreement on the plan for migration that was agreed in geneva and assembler last year talk about one point seven which actually among them is one point seven million is your estimated rate of inflation and no one point seven i'm talking about the migration plan and then i'm going to talk about and lation which of course is a consequence of the vba. that is on bearable for any country you can soundtrack is certainly not just the consequence of a blockage across a come on to a come on to the economy in more detail in a minute but so far more than twenty countries are demanding that your president

holds new presidential elections because the ones that took place last year were widely judged been rigged weren't they were rejected by among others the un the e.u. the us the organization of american states and fourteen members of the league with group so i have to correct you the un in the security council that debate was held last week and they didn't have an agreement regarding your point actually it was in the contrary they recognized at the security council with the voices of twenty four against fourteen in a debate that was called for the us they actually recognized president maduro as president and they said that the only way that the country could solve their issues was in their own matters and among venezuelans with no intervention when you mention always with the regional organiser organization of american exactly the same panorama only nineteen voices where calling these

elections to be on the fine and you know that they need twenty three you knew you knew the vote was going to be rigged because you refused to accredit international election monitors didn't show no i have to just then again correct your information actually i can prove that in the early days of last year even the e.u. was formally invited to op serve and the un as well so really the only people who certified your elections was a left wing group called cilla which you are reported to be funding in part or whole new ball economy because of an actuarial organization reward fund which has a record of delivering questionable election. and last may's presidential election and bust of the it wasn't the first one you read was it the election of a constituent assembly twenty seventeen which overnight stripped the existing national assembly wallace legislative because it was dominated by the opposition

that too was rigged wasn't it know it wasn't actually on the national caucus of the assembly doesn't have the same prerogatives as the national assembly they are by constitution above all the powers they have to rule all over all over the powers including the executive powers so. it was an election that was called publicly that count also with observers from all over the world is certain concrete didn't want to participate of center group of countries didn't want to participate as observers you cannot claim by then that the election is not valid in july managing the carter center which once praised your election system wrote after this election on top of the fact that the election was illegal the electoral council broke every rule in the book of the electoral integrity this election destroying any vestiges of democracy that might have still existed in venezuela with your

friends at the carter center and no it's actually surprising that you just mention the carter center that was in there in that particular election so i don't think that those that did not participate in the process as observers can actually claim or create is a process that they didn't. witness it is very very bizarre in the same way you know not so in basis or. to anybody you seem to be living in a parallel world and you deny all the accusations that are coming in the ones with real facts if you don't like the real facts that's another issue but i'm just giving you the real facts as they are the real fact is that in twenty. eighteen the organization of american states recommended. the international criminal court sacked its report said there were grounds to believe that your government had committed crimes against humanity didn't cause the fire was there including murder

torture rape and other forms of sexual violence persecution and inform disappearances last february the chief prosecutor of the court opened a preliminary examination of the evidence fact the organization of american states cited that least eight thousand two hundred ninety eight cases of extrajudicial executions committed they said as part of a widespread or systematic attack against the civilian population targeting members of the opposition or those identified as such thousands of people it said have been persecuted and you seem to ignore them no i'm not ignoring i'm just realising that you are making have very dangerous confusion when you actually speak about the organisation at large and you are talking about the executive secretary of that organisation it's a different thing there was sufficient consensus to have it referred to the multinational sermon also oration and send in the alexander and the chief prosecutor opened an examination of the facts so most now the international

criminal court will have their time to make their evaluations and they find the you cannot just up or announce yourself and take position before even the court ambassador these are the members of the lima group that have voiced support for the opposition leader one way to go include the argentina brazil canada chile colombia across the rica guatemala honduras paraguay and peru so when you treated last week the three sort of as you put it the irresponsible servility of europe in support of trump approach in venezuela latin america makes its commitment to peace clear you said that you forgot to mention that one most of latin america does were. peace you know also wants nicolas maduro out but you forget that actually for example which is a group of fifteen a state in the other direction so when you talk about latin america and you completely forgetting caribbean region which is part of our region so i thought you

know there's a real pleasure to colombia costa rica guatemala honduras paraguayan they don't come for me they have their views and they wear pronounce themself and they actually participate actively in the debate in the security council they were there they spoke they have their voices raised and their claims of where they're on the table at the level of the ministers of foreign affairs it is only that of the security council they didn't guard your traditional strong. clutching at straws one on one of the worst aspects of this crisis is that you continue to refuse to stand for office of the international aid that could go some way to alleviating the poverty and distress of your people which you've imposed on last october exports from the un and the inter-american commission of rights appealed to your government to act urgently to mobilize necessary and available resources including through international cooperation they said venezuela was

a crisis point but you said no so it's clear you don't care about the health of your people business it's quite clear isn't how much you are talking about the twenty million dollars that actually the us both asked last week are you talking about now i'm not i'm sure there was over the last october when the experts from the un and into mono the commissioner of rights ben ali until you decide to ask them i'm going to refer to the office that were made in fifty millions from european countries are going in there were approved last december to help the border countries that are receiving me grants from venezuela to help them to handle what they call a migrant crisis no one of these euros is being implemented in this region but that is a. other issues so this is not about the crisis this is about a political decision that was made to strangle our economy and to make us suffer until having a region change that is the only thing that has happened here why do you cover up the full extent of the crisis while your health statistics secret i don't

understand your dr who and there are others all being the president of the venezuelan society of child care and pediatrics surgeon twenty seventeen in some public hospitals he said the clinical diagnosis of malnutrition has been prohibited . i'm not a diagnosis so your doctors are being told find some other reason i think usual july ill because the state doesn't like nor can i thank you for that before raising that point which i think is crucial because i am a mother of course i care about what is happening with children and whichever person that is suffering right now in my country is not the government or whoever is in charge doesn't care is the fact that whenever you find another way is right now the situation and you cannot just ignore it as you asked me not to ignore the positions of certain group of countries i ask you not to ignore the fact that right now all the international i count of the country to trade freely are cool or was

hauled back to being the last one not talking about don't talk about the climate of fear among the dr no your thing about here if you are talking about the needs of the children are you covering up the extent of the crisis in georgia sixteen doctor who neologism it as a real planet of fear he said in this kind of government every time you say the truth they tell you you're breaking the law but i'm an old man he said so i got nothing to lose i am transmitters i am are you proud of that you know i am why i'm quiet someone that is known by always saying the truth i mean i have made my name on that and i would be in prison already i always speak my mind and i never would have stayed quiet regarding injustice because that is my formation but i will tell you you cannot require a country to fulfill their needs or their population when you block their accounts when you haul medications in the borders not allowing these ships to iraq to the

country right now more recently job hold all the payments for oil which is the first revenue of the country which can you would handle economically you use you you like to blame everyone else for your problems i know but in the main your economic problems resulted. from the almost inconceivable incompetence of your government didn't it we also know the corruption and drug dealing has now and so even the family members of the president's wife hasn't directly involved or not caught ics smuggling to a van i feel well convicted in the u.s. in twenty sixteen sentenced to eighteen years jail on drug trafficking charges that's how high the corruption goes these days in venezuela's new york combining and i traffic the corruption i mean those are the dozen the money from one field the other. i mean it's just you are just being around different fags that are not necessarily living with what is happening right now and you are just trying to drug

trafficking is not going to corruption no it's just i'm not saying that this is a legal procedure that had its own path and that accusation and that actually sentence is now being accused by the lawyer so i'm not any one to pronounce myself about the legal case that is very very first sergio's two nephews campbell flores son flores the furthest they can first build but the trial if if the prosecution actually mates and arranged and they are free next week are you going to be ready to said differently i would mr going to be free i was not going to emerge myself dealing with how you want to do in which is a legal fact meeting with scientists and now you're telling me oh we're supposing we get released in the future let's deal with the fact that behind bars are those international facts or bio diesel they were convicted by a court but are you asking me things about our ingenious actually i don't think so

if you were just i mean if you want to gossiping with me i invite you got here but i don't think it. is the purpose of having me in front of you to talk about something that can make us understand each other bettors with the realities of home or do you think president maduro can hold on now six years i hope because that is what the people european union the european parliament voted to recognize. the interim. president repeating why going is not nigerian parliament voted. now we have france spain germany and britain who have recognized the new interim leader as president how long can you go on with this people are defecting from the administration one of your colleagues venezuela buses or to iraq the fact accusing maduro of violating the constitution is his right and therefore general force. military trash in washington no military trash in

washington is gone how long can you hold don't you doesn't depend on that i mean a president doesn't hold or doesn't hold on because of four in contraries ask them or like them or not he's impoverished the country and he subject to the massive repression i remember in two thousand and two. there was a damn temple similar and not as radical and open as the one that is happening right now but actually at the time let me just recall you for what it is support nationally one hundred and thirty five high ranking military. actually said that they didn't recognize president chalis as the president of the country and presidents have to empower until two thousand and thirteen. so when you when you said to military one ambassador that's their opinions that doesn't make democracy i

mean whenever you want to put your views before you have elections to do it and we had it in may last year and the majority of the people were really judge jury and our president were only judged to be why you were pm contraries half just said if they like a government or not of a country that it doesn't belong to their system i mean the european parliament is your international. you although it's all about that i love international that you will be environmental laws will have any competence as to talk about recognitions or not is the cause the only one that has the prerogative and actually what fairly come of it any announced. wednesday friday last week was actually this proposal of creating a counter group to talk and then to lead to each country to define what the position was going to be regarding the things that are happening in venezuela but let me go beyond that the states doesn't recognize governments there is no legal basis for that more states recognize. dog with the states ambassador we've run out

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