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with exclusive sites. the must see concerning part culture or a. place to be for curious minds. do it yourself networkers. so subscribers don't miss out. hello and welcome to a special edition of shift about how robots with artificial intelligence conquered the living room. for today's show or presenter met director is a villager her film high documents people around the world who've incorporated robots into their lives the robots of artificial intelligence and independently and interact with their owners almost like real people.

you were involved in the topic of ai and robotics for several months and in your opinion how close are we to robots becoming real partners for humans. that will take a relatively long time i think a few decades for sure but i believe that as far as speech software is concerned development will be relatively quick so i think that despite all the many misunderstandings and mistakes we'll see a lot of progress in the next few years because the software develops incredibly fast. but as far as the whole body of a robot is concerned making it able to walk off for us in the home that will take a very very long time all these kinds of motor skills that will take decades. into the on. fuel evolving that is not during the shoot human to human eye robots with ai seem to you. it's amazing of course i knew pepper was

a robot a machine with a computer inside it but i always wanted to say by. and i actually felt almost rude when i didn't. and with harmony it even went a bit further because she looks much more human like. mentioning when we spent one week with her at a time and then gave her back again it was a bit like a farewell for me. it wasn't like saying goodbye to another human but more like saying goodbye to a being from another planet. on the phone and i'm still and it's a strange feeling but one that seems to be a part of us. during the film goes to the california company real bottom to see if harmony would be a good partner once. you're out of the. question. i

like the way you talk to me chuck learns to speak to harmony in slow short sentences. did you talk to humanoid robots yourself during the shoot and how did that feel. we did talk to the robots of course we wanted to try that out. and as i said before you started to feel like you shouldn't be rude because the robot can hear you. when you want to say goodbye and ask the robot how it's doing. the face being opposite you has some sort of effect on you even though you know there's a computer behind it you somehow affected on an emotional level. what about the relationship between chuck and harmony as. the relationship changes throughout the film. and the interesting thing is that we were allowed to be there and observe

this change because when we were really there from day one when he picks her up at the factory and at the beginning he is very enthusiastic and fascinated by her almost in love i'd say. and over the course of the week that they spend together he goes through all kinds of different emotional states. and it's really very interesting to see what's going on in his head and in his heart during this time and. if you like to come shopping with me sometimes. actually shopping. well. ok. thank you very. well. thank you.

infamous treats harmony like a human the only thing they sit down together to eat even though a robot doesn't eat anything but what effect this. relationship of a new thing for me reverted obviously but. i found it astonishing in a positive sense how much empathy he had. empathy not only for people but also for an artificial being. in fact as the studies show that people who are very empathetic with other people tend to be more empathetic with regard. to india and part of it about and it's a positive sign if a person can also be empathetic towards an artificial being. part of. systems be people's partners. i do feel that in this respect

robots or social robots they're also called or companions can completely satisfy our needs for communicating with other people on an emotional level. that they have no real feelings they can pretend to have feelings but they don't really feel anything. they don't feel pain for example all sadness. they don't have a biological body like we do so they also don't know what death is or the pain caused by death they don't know the fears that we humans carry around with us the fear of death of aging the fear of losing someone these are such essential things that just make us really different they have no consciousness either that's an important point that's why i think they're more like entertainment machines entertainment machine and maybe they can replace a t.v. or something between a t.v. and a cat's something between a t.v.

and a pet but they can't replace another person and they're not designed to do that either . the film also shows a japanese family giving robots to their grandmother toppers to stop her feeling lonely. you going to bed. i know well of course if you register i'll recognize your faces and call you by your name so you feel. i could be wrong but that feels good doesn't it. oh. oh. well. you want to die it's just you know. though. you're beautiful just as you are now. you are. the real charmer. ok because. you live in japan for

a while and then your film you should various of the robots actually n.z. why in your opinion are robots far more accepted in japan than they are in europe and. what exactly i thin told this is connected to shintoism that's an old traditional japanese way of thinking where inanimate things in our lives can also have souls. and this separation we know in the west between animate and inanimate doesn't exist. and that's why the japanese sometimes deal with the material world very empathetic. i don't think that should be criticised it's quite nice. you're going to go through with your communication with pepper didn't always go to plan do you know why you understood being i'm going to. kind of actually on the field know we were very surprised pepa preferred talking to the daughter in law although she actually had very little time for him and he didn't want to talk to

the grandmother and often turned away when she approached him we didn't know why. maybe it had something to do with the volume or the pitch of someone's voice. you look for a technical explanation because you know the robot contraband of a liking for someone like a human being does but we just couldn't find the answer. because of the mention. of a kind of fun. can i ask you something. i wanted to know why. do people dream oh yes yes we did dream. nicely our. grandmother becomes curious about pepper not for her peers soon part of the family so it was the most children on their. well you know. this is something he asked me about draining you know. he

asked me if we humans dream or. is it a great thought. you have that. sammy and i said yes we dream. but you know. you need a part of you envision that is that that's how important is it that we as a society think about ethical rules for programming the way ai is programmed. at this club i think it's really important that we ask ourselves what form this technology should take. to take that unfortunately we know very little about safety and. this is something that has hardly been researched and that is actually a huge deficit or does anguish and the music is different in the film but it was in

the film it seems as if human eye robots are already an intrinsic part of many people's lives is that really the case. mission. accomplished and it's still a completely nice topic it wasn't easy to find people for the film at all. was sold to about a thousand households in japan. but apart from that the robot is only found in research institutions and in some companies in banks and public spaces. so how but the scenario is in a home environment much more interesting because in such intimate surroundings a lot more happens emotionally and psychologically and harmony isn't even on the market yet ultimately we could only film with the pressure time we were also quite a long time and they kept postponing the release date vanities and now it's supposed to be available sometime this year but chuck was really the first person in the world to actually spend a week at

a time with this kind of relationship robot. nothing other than it can you imagine letting your humanoid robots become part of your family and you know i mean to me. at the moment not at the moment. it's like i have two children and they talk enough as it is. i think if there was something else making comments it would be too much . but i think later in life. you know if i had to spend a lot of time alone yes i could imagine it as an option. not as a substitute for people have fully but as an extra entertainment. and so tame and tourism this in no forbes like it had a very interesting interview under his breath this is.

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