benfica for two from the first leg but overturn the deficit with a two no win at home a boisterous crowd bored them to victory asked first in a close to each and then sebastian wouldn't have scored on both sides at half time to send frankfurt through on away goals while celebrations followed and frankfurt now face chelsea for a place in the final. next european election special i meant that she might take a look at what the vote in it will mean for asia stay tuned for that. it's crunch time the european elections are just around the corner of the kidding you might ask a simple why should i care what the european market is one of the biggest in the

wants of everyone everybody needs to get to watch a special show you elections why they matter to a certain. strata if you will action and why they matter to asia next. welcome to crunch time the european elections are just around the corner i know we've almost forgotten about them because of greg's that but now they are back with a vengeance and you might recognize the place we are sitting here this is of course the seat of the european parliament in strasbourg and this is the last plenary session in this set up before the election so it's time to disk. the new elections

and why they matter. now if you think someone is here you might ask why should i care about the european elections well this is one of the biggest markets in the word and indeed times of globalization everyone everywhere you care to discuss that with a great panel so stick with us and stick with our guests on my left for example. who is a member of the european greens and an expert obviously and she says the guiding light for good governance in the region needs to be universal human rights and on my right we have professor dr who he is from the center for global studies in boston and europe and asia need each other to overcome the times of uncertainty on the road over there the youngest member of the european parliament so it's his future we're also talking about here it's of course ralph and he is from the east

your group the european conservatives and reformists and he says calling the asian economies suddenly systemic rivals and competitors is going too far also with the mr good you think he's india's best there to germany and he says europe is not going to discussion in asia. how would show some member of the european left a member of the e.u. china delegation he says asia and europe need to be the closest possible partners to overcome the global problems talking about problems and max every time i talk about europe and asia people say to me you mean china many people here asia is the non i'm in china so let's talk china. china is big china sponsor china. the nation is striving for talent to

become the technology of the world. and road initiative in twenty first century silk road it's been called by the way the chinese martial plan dates back to campaign for global dominance but does the trade play. better sure we all know we cannot let mutual suspicion get the better of us from. europe one straight but. this has to lead to a reciprocity that we are still struggling to achieve using and a much finer. china. needs. european industries are increasingly falling under chinese control. it is going to create european enterprises need to get the same degree of access to

the market as the chinese get in europe. china is a global player when it comes to digital infrastructure europeans have long been familiar with the dominance of chinese giants like who play. instruments spying on europe. none of us is naive. e.q. china relations facing new challenges time not even a thoughtful. the only one on hardball and you said you were looking for the closest possible relationship right here or should we disregard the spying of china should we disregard the human rights situation and just go for a very close partnership close partnership includes human rights as i would say but this includes also. concentrating on the question how we can come. out and that means that you have to focus on the source. issues on the economic

issues on issues of human rights but of course also on the mental issues and sadness in the globe about that at least in the past when it comes to the human rights situation so that really affected it is effective the question as it is maybe not enough effective but it is going into the right direction and here i see really a development in the balata relationship and we have to continue to strengthen also the attention on the human rights but he wants to come up with a very tough policy towards china recently score china and make a rival and with alternative forms of governance you feel that's going too far why well i wouldn't always call this assertive because some powers in europe really have an admiration for the chinese state system i wouldn't go that far but i also don't want to be naive so i really want to point out that there are real challenges regarding china i really need to break up this public forum and markets

china need to respect copyrights and to stop forcing this technology transfer that european companies face in europe those are challenges but those challenges don't mean that we need to turn away from global cooperation that we need to start closing or so as to work towards the open markets because the openness and the freedom of markets that europe always showed in the past is exactly what makes you great and we should maintain this openness towards all partners in the future would you say would you agree with saying strong term systemic rivals well i think also what you said at the entrance that china and europe we have to work together in multilateral for like the united nations because we have a high risk time yes base our common policies on the rule of law and the rules based order and i think china could do much more now. china is expanding in the

united nations' feels a lot of gaps when the u.s. pulled out but i think there's a lack of conditioning it also on human rights protection and i think now we have five human the states in the security council to permanence three nonpermanent and still china should be more cooperative for example to refer severe human rights cases like in myanmar the case of the international criminal court or the human rights council itself to find opportunities to work together but do you agree with the term systemic rivals are we wives or are we partners well i think we are partners i think the term is i don't agree with what terminology rival is very limited to being a rival on the economic market i see the european union also as a political entity and they are we should refine our hurting and seek opportunities to work together by the same time critiquing where we have different for example

different values. professor who. says that his rivals at an economic sense with china but would you argue that china is also has political aspirations of dominance through its various projects within the playing divide and rule within the through projects like the belgian good initiative. there was a lot of misunderstanding about chinese. initiatives you need if you. really consider the situation for me the chinese. new. indeed a december strategy towards united states could use a reaction to the americans. to egypt so the chinese government didn't want you to go directly into front countries into nicely the developing strategies. to go with indeed to despair and turned to the european countries

which started the year. the second their first one is a to find a new way to create a new market for china's economy. to avoid a direct confrontation. at the last one is to find a way to give chinese societies a new possibility to give areas which is a totally separate from the globalization new chance to quantum you could development but this project is somehow miss really and misunderstand you from what . do you feel like the project is misunderstood because i understand india is not participating at all in the categorically refusing to participate because they have a completely different understanding of one belt one road that will serve things and the common knowledge to make right is

a good one i think you out of stocks need to stop trying to not be pamby china they need to come up upfront and stand up for what they believe in you can't have economic leading you by the nose so that all your values are surrendered you have to emphasize human values beyond human rights which of the you why you. don't vote because we believe or is not looking out for other country's interests political strategic and economic and we do not want the world to become kind of a stimulus package for the chinese economy. and which also he's talking about ambassador singh is saying one should not namby pamby china and the e.u. has come up with its own asia europe connectivity package do you think that is europe's answer to all ball of the one belt one good initiative i would not. yes

there is just the opposite issue but here we have to find channels two to combine these different plans etc because i would not agree totally with you but i would say that this rivalry understanding is just describing more than only economic violence it is a way of how we are treating each other and that is a term from the cold war times and that means we are competing each other. to break the other one economically politically etc that i think is leading if you are looking into the global challenge into the wrong direction if for example one point four billion people in china want to live their way of. living or one point three million billion in india and one more billion and other asian countries so what does it mean for the soldiers what does it mean for the energy production what does it mean for the climate so yeah i think we have really obligation to find

channels to cooperate and i would welcome that in participating in these different plans and we'll talk about that more later about india's india's role in that but i think it's safe to say that of course china is much more involved nowadays in europe not only on the fringes but in the european union as well that it was in the past we're prepared to tweet from that because greece obviously is one of the countries where there was a lot of investment chinese investment in the last years and this tweet is from alexis tsipras the greek prime minister i think we have that and it says meeting with the chinese president xi jinping is a bridge between east and west china and the e.u. now this. is a couple of years old but it is well it's more relevant than ever it seems and wouldn't you say professor that some people in europe could feel threatened by chinese activity as of late. the feeling in the perception of the chinese threat

is understandable. because of two reasons the first one is we have people living in european countries who have no experience with a country which is on the floor of the communist party with tremendous new power resources going into the condiment new. nobody here and the second one is misunderstanding because why you go to chinese do you do you have the feeling we just come to you. only with a computer with a new projector to walk with you to good why are you reaction so. what is our. christian discussion in china also term travel with. few chinese project i believe the real huge demand for be the bridge connecting you going to china for.

you calling me a project no to. i'm from not really do you agree with that because there is a lot of concern in the about china's influence not just within europe. you have the sixteen point one initiative greece has now joined the sixteen one initiative is now seventeen plus one did in fact europe all these countries in the into the arms of the chinese because the. countries like greece not giving them money was a member sell the assets to willing buyers like china well i would. agree with you on one point i think china. openly used its influence and its economic ties for example with greece and conditioned it two years ago and because you depend on our economic aid or support you have not to vote. critique china

in the human rights council and this kind of policy is very rational the european side critique because the european union can be only strong in a multilateral florida if we speak with one voice and this was a clear take split and i think this china should seek different forms to engage and to work together by strengthening and not weakening the human rights and if i may be scared of our own shadow europe is the biggest global economy we are the biggest trading block of the world we are the biggest export partner of china and we should respect ourselves with this position this is only a bid to be more assertive to sit around the table with china and i'm not scared of these investments in the east in the balkans and so on because recent projects have clearly shown that china fails to deliver a lot of time you know i mean you know with the power plants in montenegro with the road building so this country also understand that china has major difficulties.

applying the european rules regarding procurement it turns out in better at it just have example with technology transfer in the last years you know but we see for example with the project in montenegro with the road that really is to make the complexity of local regions and i think this type of collaboration will never replace european union but it can work complimentary in certain cases but we should really look and respect our own our own position on a global level and not be scared of our own shadow and i want the big concerns here after i came to is that when china is investing some of these eastern europe and in both countries they're investing in critical infrastructure and in countries which have actually limited financial resources creating what people feel is a debt trap so these countries then have a certain dependency on china which wiley's this is exactly where we need a really assertive policy and we. doing that recently made his foreign direct

investment screen system where the european union provides a framework where member states can really screen foreign investments and this will temper china's china's eagerness to to invest in strategic sectors so this really shows that we can play on the same equal level fields and if we play in this global position then we can work together with china from a europe's point of of perspective shape the world in a trading system with fair rules and open trade i think what i call the namby pamby approach i mean you say you really can't be serious on the back it says china is not following global ghoul's china is taking advantage of the weakness of god and globalization and stepping in with the other worsham of globalization i don't think they're what do you about european investment growth they are about it not even so much about the create this are trying to export the are we out of economic trouble

you do the domestic chinese you are trying to export to different parts of the world what do the angels do so i think you have to say something i really. do believe that the chinese are. certainly china has a lot of things to improve certainly. with the government of the chinese people especially depriving a company you do go out to two european countries do try to play with the game with the rules of the w.t. or the majority. so the second point i want to make is please respect respect to the. decision power of the european countries and the companies people doing business with china we cannot afford to underestimate the conscious decision made by different european countries. a small

european country zubrin decision you don't like they're ok but you there's no reason for you to criticize him for them to cooperate with china because it took a little too man and the u. turn in government they do have the interest and they do exactly know what did they are doing and they did do to the chinese under our plane after the global rule of law so i believe we have to separate our own opinion and the reality happens in the reality how much will you want to add something to that one that some of the problems here just discussing are of homemade if you can unit you are carrying out for decades already know it is a story to policy cutting down and saving etc so then the countries have no chance to invest to find money for for the development of their own economies so and then

i would not fear that investment coming from china or from india or from the united states or somewhere it's also our only source and that code not only be private. private capital it must be also the states who are obliged to to develop their own economies and here is saying we have. to change the agenda so if you really want to do with the social and. environmental challenges we have to invest together and i would stop this thinking and one against the other novi have a common obligation and here i think really that we should develop a new strategy in the global understanding and and to interfere into the way of how the economic systems and structures are functioning so we've talked a lot about how europeans feel about chinese investment about the chinese role in the european union because we have the elections just around the corner i would like to know from her so go to people in your. you know with all that there are you

with actions absolutely here maybe and then what are their expectations. different to yunior european question has been your question in chinese the discourse political and economy is good because because of the two reasons the first one is as you just mentioned your pin you were one of the big sister single market the chinese social life jobs somehow depend. on the economy the situation you can contradict the point much more important because the majority of the chinese think tanks and bradley did believe. we need a stronger will prosper when steber european union. harrop. for example was washing towards washington so they do believe we have to do every scene to keep their religion to remain country. stable so do i have did have an

interest to see how do your opinion parliaments work you spewed a lot of people are very worried about priest because they believe if do you would britain move out of you can you be the bigger german chancellor angela merkel and to deal with it future economy comparable cooperation and china will be the. pattern or in terms of the fire to refer to remain in of a multinational song they do have an interest to look at the start of the european elections. mr beaver you've been on the continent a lot in asia. you have do you do you bring those two things together sometimes the elections and this region that you know so much about you're so interested in well of course you see the asean countries they look carefully how the european union is

developing connectivity and to work together and so they don't understand sometimes and they're disappointed that we destroy the european union from itself because their gains by working together are obvious and that is i feel so sorry and i also think when they look for example as in countries to china and the influence in the region it is again that there is no i wouldn't say hostility but still demanding from china please strengthen our rules based order like the conflict real severe conflict in the south china sea where. conflict could develop then learning could how what is the european position but also referring to the court's decision actually that china should also accept the legal decision not to go for being atomic very important topic obviously to get back to

the one point where do you feel you will actions really matter in the region on what topic. well i think if you see in the building up of. the european elections all those parties will have a clear racist policy against migrants and foreignness not so much against asians but if they would come also against asians this boris them because our in the center of the european union is also that we are kind of a value in that a human being has its dignity and should not be violated for look maybe this probably isn't understanding of that in the euro. union such extreme right wings can gain so much this is very worst. is when you talk about human rights and about protecting rights of people and the wigglers in china the muslim minority their people off an. appliance double standards if they have an economic interest in a country suddenly human rights don't matter like for example in china. sometimes

it's not often but in a country like near where there's not much economic stake you suddenly they jump on the human rights issue would you agree with that no i disagree and also i hear different voices from asia it depends if you listen to government voices or civil society and human rights organizations which there are plenty of in the region i think the e.u. is too soft when they talk with china for example last week we had a summit not magically not micro not more greeny said this thing in a critique and there are many human rights violations and i think this is the critique we should take in the union that i think it's not only because of if there's an. economic interest you because also in myanmar there's a lot of economic interest by the european union to create this market but the size of the violations was. huge professor who i have good news for you because after

the criticism we had from the towards china you won't be able to take it back in a second because as we can see china is a difficult topic also because of the human rights situation we won't have complete agreement here but there is an alternative maybe in asia which is india india is a big democracy india to become the most populous country overtake china but you know what am i talking about let's just watch this movie. india the world's biggest democracy and first destroying knowledge economy the country is thriving imagine as a global player pretty shook local challenges. the easy you india's frustrating part but they both went deeper cooperation in key areas. new genus were faced with the same global challenges. such as china it's renewable energy and security.

democratic india is jealous said politically to the e.u. in china it would seem natural positives but the relationship hasn't taken off line . it's time for free trade agreements between the. european union wants to conditions are right and the only ones to conditions are right. easy and india are both strong supporters of the global order based on multilateralism and shared values it is know how it's promising but even india relations so far from tapping their full potential secret ingredient is missing to help take this relationship to the next level. and that is a question i'm going to put to you and that's a good thing watch the secret ingredient is missing to bring europe and india into a level of partnership that would become in zero eight with their natural

proclivities what our democracy is not a honeymoon couple of the more india and your level but if you're in there and you're about to reorder middle aged couple we need to adapt ourselves to a long battery life and we need to see how our grandchildren are going to inherit this therefore i think your group needs to pick up and stop looking at small important but small single minded activities and look at the broad swath of a partnership with india for instance. treat with trade there's nothing without investment do nothing but we have held up the india you bilateral trade agreement for years on frankly in an italian marines i mean this is not the country should do so we need a much bigger approach. also that this would be some new spock's how about an educational partnership how about a scientific and technological partnership how about

a partnership where we bring change to the world and gives people the common values that we must look at beyond security and create sound sensible. i have a different approach because i think where the partnership really holds is a lack of ambition in your site we already negotiating about the free trade agreements with india for almost more than ten years and it's india who fails to deliver commitments to open its markets to show commitment regarding sustainable development and labor policies this is not from europe sides we want to invest we want to go there but now you see them go back into this new flagship from india and made in india program and i think that if we would. be able to attract european investments into india that would be a benefit for a beneficiary for both sides investment for europe could bring economic engine growth could be job creation in india so this would actually be in this program of

made in india but to lack of ambition emission is not from europe but in india that will shortz the e.u. has come up with a new strategy for india do you share. that pockets news that. this position is also understands. because i think there is a truce in both positions so of course in india there must be also the chance for india to get a development on its own if you are looking for food and food guaranteeing for everybody in such a continent as india then of course they have the right to look. in the national approach to do with all of the other hand i would say we have to look into the developing the mighty little trading system instead of only looking into bilateral agreements with china we are just negotiating already also for six years investment protection agreement which is

a huge agreement and we have me you should include trait of sustainable development shop that must be also realized in such a free trade agreement with india but that means we have to understand what are the roots what are the standards for that and this we have to develop within the beauty was system because the w.t. who is changing its its nature today and in the twenty first century the second or third decade already we have climate social issues human rights political stability to be also benchmarks for shaping his tweet because traitors today about production and consumption but already there is trouble as you mention a better with alcoholic beverages i believe it was also whiskey because of because of the united kingdom that. if you had some concrete requests that you would like to form a way towards india what's that well as i see it i think india has very good

structures and laws on human rights constitution and so on the biggest problem is in the implementation in the huge disparity between rich and many many very poor and how to overcome this and i think when ever european union is planning and going further to do a free trade agreement they have to do a human rights impact assessment first because i remember when i think it was also when he traveled to india actually he traveled to china and stopped and he made a public press conference and said over to free trade agreement now all the initiatives dealing with for example the right to health they look into what would this mean if european companies produce expensive pharmaceutical medicine on hiv we in india then the market for those indian companies who produce it cheaper is lost and then what about the poor people so all these issues i think i would have nothing with you feel more comfortable with india as

a trading partner of the you than with china that is the question i cannot answer because i think it's the wrong question because i think look if what is best for the people in the respective countries or region and trade is not per se bit of good. i would say that in china the problem is that the governments does not tolerate critique and is very strong and strict against minorities this week you will have risen lucian on the weaker situation again in india and both countries i have to say that enormous progress in fighting poverty which is essentially the number one about the. in india it is more easier because the government seems a little bit more relaxed with the critique but the biggest problem is there in the implementation i think that's also the main issue which drives elections in fact you know that he was been talking for

a long time building closer relations with india a strategic partnership which they already have talked about turning common principles into common interests in fact let me just read out a quote from this was. back in two thousand and seventeen i'm more convinced than ever that india and the e.u. become. the kinds of democracy and tolerance must shape the words together and the new policies and strategy statement just come out of this talk about you welcoming a multi-polar professor go how do you feel about this concept of multipolar because the other has no rival for india in the region in asia and china would do her a multi-pronged. structure construction in terms of security or. development. to india china japan and another country do they are very you know sobering and independent

so you've countries talking about structure partnership the question is what i think for european countries maybe the idea is to create a new venue a community against the possible return. correlation between russia and china maybe this is going to going to strive to be a partnership to india to move to reform the country move in direction of. me so i have the feeling. expectation of a process of. friends wars. since to be true to quick. don't forget india has began the economy to reform twenty years later than china about ninety at the beginning of ninety that means

there was a lot of a bureaucratic. system to be removed and that is that was the reason why the implication while the implementation has gone very very slow so you know really i do believe you can petition of european comes as a totally post-modern country towards india and china correct to rise there by. the attendance of the patients you know we need more time when you more time in european given for china and also for india so there is a gap between the two levers of development in africa do you believe that the exit could be that. would work in favor of you having to with the times within certainly not because the u.k. was always a big partner that was always in favor of free markets open markets and this is a partner we might lose so this will have a big impact and the european union need to be way more assertive towards these

trading partners but something that is often left out of this debate is that a strong global position actually starts which are all your own internal the size of nice and if we sit across the table with trading partners and they see that we in europe we have huge internal debts that we have a very weak immigration policy that we always hesitate to face or terror threats we need to show the world that we can face or own challenges we need to show that we can handle our own threats and this is how we can be a strong partner on the global level and also gain more respect. maybe with a little heavier a little addition here because what you just mentioned of course is important how does india feel about let's say the threat of more. more and more right wing populus coming into the european parliament with the upcoming elections does that play a role. i think you must pardon me on that india is busy with his own election and

the same day by the way twenty third say that right now i don't think we are taking too much of other people's elections but all elections are important because you get an article lucian off the human mind and more free of the human mind the better the articulation so yes the results of the european election vill help us to form our what he calls ambition to words the european union but don't expect india to give all the gains of the w.t. you are slow movement into the climate change support into becoming support of the globalization at the threshold of an agreement with the european union we are just not going to do it we need your help to protect those gains not lose them now i think he made them back it makes an interesting point i think india and europe need to work together on security cooperation in dealing with nontraditional threats the

of budget and piracy we need to do more on terrorism we need to do it on illegal migration we need to do it on drugs and we need to do it on cybersecurity and on money laundering these are the real treat you know huge borders don't matter here we just need european understanding and on the ground operation i think this year i have seen much more positive european reaction of the many members in the security council that you mentioned in support of these ventures you're talking about security help mature shows a little new strategy from the e.u. they want to have closer defense ties with india this talk about joint military exercises there's talk about having a military envoy in india and vice versa do you think europe needs to be a little more assertive in terms of how security. you know i fully disagree with this position because there's just misleading so if you're put in

a bubble of people she said that we should judge also the human rights situation from the perspective of citizens and not only from the functioning of the state of the systems and i think if you're speaking about security issues that we have to first of all to deal with the social equal chance of everybody in our society because that is the fear of going into poverty which is one of the stimulus for the right populist parties here in the you can unions. can only be tackled if you are developing economies or societies opening your chances for everybody also for women which is alone and taking care of both her child or the man who is doing the shoot so i mean this is a problem and you're abusing you have to organize a cooperation between india and you can you in between china and the opinion are taking other countries of the asian continent for

a chunk of free trade agreement with japan we agreed to include the quiet progress of data protection regulations and laws of the opinion as a benchmark also for the by a little cooperation in the three suspects and i think this could be also an example for the cooperation of china if you're dealing with investment agreements we've had some fascinating insights to love would not we want to have next some fun and games yes i hope it's fun for everybody so you only get to answer with one word for the following i think we have two questions the first one is what are you looking for in the outcome of the e.u. elections which part of the e.u. elections are you really looking at the best support to globalization. respect the rule of law. democratisation reinforcement of much in a recent safety and competitiveness ok had much of the bills that go because he was the only one who gave a one would have a second question to you finish the sentence europe and asia.

partners in global cooperation. needing a child or two or a prom develop complicates it or a common future in time needs to ever equal of any player field. need and support each other hand in hand hand in hand thank you very much as fascinating it was great to have all of you on this why draining discussion about election than why they should matter to asia thank you very much and to all of you wherever you might be listening to max man and me thank you very much for your company it is great to have you with us and of course stick around in the next months or weeks actually because like i said in the beginning the world elections are just around the corner and we hope to see you there on t.w. when we cover this important event for the european knew that.

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