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tv   The Day  Deutsche Welle  April 27, 2019 1:02am-1:31am CEST

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in january. two decades ago one of the most infectious diseases known to humans was officially eliminated from the u.s. but now measles is making a comeback and the numbers are startling some seven hundred cases so far this year but doctors are fighting not just the disease but an epidemic of misinformation they say is misleading parents about the supposed it dangers of vaccines i'm calling aspen in berlin and this is the day. to get. killed for. doing. the like news although like the one i went to that comes from latin words when where because if you were in syria you would need to turn to notify goes from their
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apartments venice or you leave. the chance that you will get results in a room with somebody who has mutual somewhere like ninety percent. a lack of immunization is killing children one half million children are dying needlessly every year due to a lack of them you know it's a shame. also coming up tonight spaniards head to the polls for the third time in just four years on sunday the polls are too close to call and the far right to win over voters who feel left behind by the mainstream parties. very old talk about grand idea. but afterwards there are parts of spain that are just forgotten. who. we start the day with
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a battle that the world thought it had already won measles was on the short list of being eradicated in many parts of the globe the virus can be prevented with a simple series of shots but now health officials are sounding the alarm as vaccination rates fall worldwide due outbreaks of the disease are being reported the world health organization says measles cases have shot up more than three hundred percent in the first three months of this year we'll get to the situation in the united states in just a moment but first here in germany doctors say vaccination campaigns are making that problem even worse this information has convinced a growing number of parents not to immunize their children and that's prompted the german government to consider making measles shots and a toy. in the five year old memory has not been vaccinated her mother is against it she's afraid vaccines will damage her daughter or compromise her health.
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that stench my obvious anger for me as when i was pregnant i started looking at every illness how do you get them the course of each disease worst case scenarios and how effective vaccines are and what negative side effects the vaccines have. and then have it for me and then i weighed the risks and benefits. and i'm just not that afraid of many illnesses or fear. she's not afraid of measles either even though it's one of the most dangerous childhood illnesses in germany it kills one in a thousand patients all studies find complications arising from the vaccine are rare many parents mistrust the science they fear the vaccine more than the disease is. that something pediatrician your claim has seen up close. yes. some. people don't know about these diseases anymore.
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there's a lot of misinformation on the internet especially regarding the measles vaccine which is very controversial right now. to those in the know that the german federal center for health education says not enough children or adults are being immunized . that can be dangerous newborns for instance are too young to be vaccinated they rely on what's called herd immunity that is when at least ninety five percent of the population is facts unaided viruses cannot spread. germany has yet to reach that level of immunity that's why some politicians and doctors are now calling for mandatory vaccinations for preschool children twelve other e.u. countries have already introduced compulsory vaccination measures. the global. believe that criminal law would apply but fines could be imposed people could also be prohibited from visiting community facilities. that
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would mean that unvaccinated children would not be allowed to go to preschool jennifer says that wouldn't persuade her. expression of this i wouldn't like that and i certainly would not like to be forced to do anything by the state and i would want to do it of my own accord having received so much information that i'd say. yes that's a great idea of trying to do. jennifer says if she must she would go to court over it her daughter will not be vaccinated any time soon. are now from germany to the united states for the vaccination debate is also raging and it appears to be having very real and potentially deadly consequences this week health officials in los angeles is sure to quarantine order to universities amid fears that hundreds of students and staff may have been exposed to measles measles infections in the u.s. have now climbed to their highest level in twenty five years measles can be life threatening and this year alone it's closing in on some seven hundred cases and
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that's in a country that declared the virus eliminated in the year two thousand. ok joining me now is peter hotez he's the co-director of the texas children's hospital center for vaccine development and as the father of an autistic child he's been taking on the anti vaccine movement in the u.s. with his book it's called vaccines did not cause rachel's autism my journey as a vaccine scientist pediatrician and autism death mr welcome i know you first of all thank you for joining us can you describe the main arguments of the so-called anti-vaccination i mean what could make parents think that something that's life saving such as a vaccine could actually be life threatening. well so it's a central tenet of this anti maxime movement that started out as a fringe group in early two thousand and six well unfortunately has expanded into
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its own media empire now with by some estimates more than five hundred anti back seeing misinformation websites you have amplification on facebook they taken over the amazon site to promote phony anti-wrinkle books and more than two dozen anti vaccine books so this is become a major crisis and one of their central tenets is that vaccines cause autism and as is a physician as a medical doctor and and. both and a vaccine scientist i wrote this book because i'm also the. author with autism in our explain the science show and there's absolutely no link between vaccines and autism and also no plausibility because now we know of his begins in early seed and development well before to receive maxine's and it's but the problem is the anti
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vaccine movement dominates the internet so i'm a professor and a doctor writing a book in their own media juggernaut and. not shaping at the top of the show we heard part of that back scene argument from president trump and self he was saying quote they have to get their shots but for a long time that was not his stance take a look at this tweet from twenty twelve afore he was president saying that massive combined inoculations to small children is the cause for a big increase in autism and here in twenty fourteen healthy young child goes to doctor gets pumped with massive shot of many vaccines doesn't feel good and changes autism many such cases what is your reaction sue seeing the president essentially flip flopping his position from where he was a few years ago. well the good news is the flip flop in the right direction you know he. was not trained as a scientist see he was never in government before so it never really been free so i
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guess given the benefit of doubt a little bit incident once he became an inaugurated became president then he stopped voicing anti-tax seeing the point so i'm glad you know take it at face value i'm glad he came out today with that statement unfortunately you know there's a huge segment of the american public as well as in europe now that does believe that vaccines cause autism and other things and we now have to kind of. figure out a way to counter all of that but with the with the way they're dominating the media it's very tough you know just being a professor writing a book is is not going to be adequate we're going to have to figure out a way how to dismantle this anti vaccine media empire and it's gotten even worse now because not only is it a media empire but they've spun off political action groups and texas oklahoma many states in the u.s. they have actual a lobbying groups that are
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a lot being state legislatures to make it harder and harder vaccinate children and now this is infiltrating europe as well soon italy with its populist government now it's got thousands of kids not getting vaccinated so this is created a real monster in north america and in europe and it's affecting public health europe has had more than eighty thousand missiles cases last year now we have the second number in the united states and my other big worry is that it won't stop in europe and north america until certain movies get to asia africa and latin america with really catastrophic consequences so what is the best way to avoid those catastrophic consequences how do you convince people how do you you battle this machine that's pushing these anti-vaccination beliefs. it's well we're going to have to fight the battle on three different fronts unfortunately in that's not going to be easy and i think the first thing we're going to have to do is one figure out a way to begin dismantling the media empire to counteract the phony documentaries
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like facts than others that they're putting out to counteract the phony books and to work with the heads of the social media platforms like facebook work with the heads of the e-commerce platforms like amazon to take off all of that anti vaccine content that's their one and then work with legislatures in various us states and with the european parliament's to block the anti vaccine legislation and then the third component is we've got to restore proper approved axion advocacy and be able to get our word out through public service announcements they started to do this now in australia just they've just lost a twenty two a million dollar public service announcement campaign we're going to need to get that certainly in the u.s. navy in some european countries so it's going to it's going to take a long time it's going to be expensive but we have to do it because every day now losing more and more ground and unfortunately it's happening at the expense of the
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health of children we have now thousands of measles cases because of north america and europe children are being hospitalized and many of us are serious and permanent injury is also it's all right peter hotez co-director of the crisis spillers hospital center for vaccine development thank you very much. thanks veronica. protesters in sudan have vowed to escalate their action if the country's military council insists on maintaining sovereign power intellection help demonstrators in the capital khartoum kept up their protests a day after the so-called million strong march for civilian rule they've been massing outside army headquarters ever since the ousting of president omar al bashir just over two months ago. and i'm now joined by our abdul karim who is actually just returned from sudan i mean we were
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looking at some just impressive pictures there from sudan tens of thousands of people out in the streets there at the army headquarters they want civilian rule i mean you were there what was that experience like though the way we saw it in the picture people are angry they're frustrated and they only want one thing which is that the military council gives the hands over the power to a civilian council because they said it's enough like the revolution if we can call it through this also discussion ensued on about it started in december until now and then i'll marry but she is not anymore the president so now they don't want any military control or any military power they said it's enough we have been living for thirty years under dictatorship military dictatorship and that's enough but then also people say the dictator is a dictatorship is there so a lot of discussions going on and you could really have to feeling when you talk to
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people that they just go on the power in the hands of passivity what strikes me and from watching this all unfold it's been relatively peaceful the with what's been the key to that i think this is the knees are fed up with the war because the last if you had to solve the thirteen people died at this time also people died but not the same amount in two thousand and thirteen and they are fed up with. having fights among each other and that's why the whole time when they talk and they de chant they always say peaceful peaceful it should stay peaceful and also turning point out to know the military is peaceful and this is being a constant on the side from the military and that's why people to now they respected military and they said they are the ones who supported us they are the ones who are with us but we don't want them in power so they respect them but there's no place for them to be in power so there's this level of respect yes but what about trust is there trust between civilians and the military council very good one they respect them but i don't think they trust them because they just look
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to their neighbors in egypt and at the beginning everyone respected the military and said they are helping us they are people's choice or some of them in egypt and then these are saying we don't want to go there were so that where today egypt is we don't want to have a president sisi representing the military and also in sudan and that's why they say no we don't trust you the you're trying to be nice to us you're trying to to observe what we're doing we are ready for any game and we don't want to come so far with civilian movements with so many people it's always hard to come to consensus right they don't want they don't want the military in power what do they want in particular can they agree on anything else they agree if they want to civilian council transitional council but they have a lot of challenges because you have to imagine we see the big amount of people who have different parties political parties who have different groups who have the
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so-called youth of the revolution you have protesters you have different movements and all together to be united is very hard now in sudan because we don't have to forget thirty years there was one voice one dictatorship and now suddenly we're expecting from these people to have political awareness organizations n.g.o.s but that's not the case it's like everyone has the feeling i can be a pro. is it isn't i can rule i have a voice i want to speak out it's time for my voice to be heard and every group together down not united because still know that's what the military is taking advantage of a civilian council with concrete names and people who could meet sudan the next phase there are no concrete names there is no a concrete group of people who all unite who could be people's choice and that's why the minister consul is say as long as you're in your new united who should we give the power to and this is being you know this is being played very smart by the military the movement still organizing for itself just our abdul karim just
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returned from sudan thank you for the first time perspective thank you for. today was the final day of campaigning in spain ahead of a general election on sunday and it will be the third time the voters go to the polls there in just four years prime minister pedro sanchez is currently the front runner but neither his socialist nor the conservative people's party are expected to get an outright majority in this weekend's vote if. that will most likely mean a difficult choice of coalition partners smaller parties appear to be gaining support both on the left and on the right the national populist thoughts already held its closing outdoor rally today it's hoping to capitalize on voter discontent and enter parliament for the first time the gathering as you can see was briefly interrupted by topless women activists.
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are let's get more now on sunday's election and what's at stake there we have fernando in he's a political science professor at madrid's out tony university and he's also a regular columnist for the spanish newspaper el pais professor thank you for joining us as we heard the focus ahead of sunday has been on spain's countryside its brutal communities why are voters there in the in these small towns why are they getting so much attention all the sudden. yeah because traditionally the vote is conservative and so the big question in this election as you said before is if they'll be. lists will be capable of three the creating a majority in parliament in order to be capable of governing right so this this is the first question but the second question is how large will the will be the backing off of the entrance into parliament this new rightist populist party which
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might have a lot of success particularly those. underpopulated prophecies of central spain spain like a lot of european countries right now it's seeing a political shift is moving away from these larger traditional parties what factors are behind that in spain. well i think the main reason in our case is not so much integration i think the main issues the. catalans are at is so i think it's a cultural issue that has really. brought about this revival of extreme spanish nationalism that has found this auntie i think you know all that perfect voice because they have. what we may call you know a new front. tendency of thinking about spain this. is unitary getting back to all conservative. values.
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regaining issues that you know well almost forgotten in the country like abortion and so in that sense i think they've been on different issues but i think that means recently for the potential sex this is undoubtedly the catalan case well tell us about that new kid on the block we're calling on this all right box party they could play a role even in terms of forming a coalition how much is that party resonating with voters and how controversial is it. well we don't know their exact strength so how strong they're going to be because really you know poses a really rather upset because in mill there's a hidden vote but it doesn't show up so. we guess that they might get percent of the vote but who knows if they if they grow to fifteen percent that
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would be an enormous success. as a result and it's difficult to say who's voting for you know one thing is clear you know i'm so they get all the votes for and to sustain. people so and in a certain sense is a protest vote but also mainly conservatives want me cold so the rest you jude law for. social logical frankel is right. and it is spain not so much of the coasts but in custody hills so in the sense of part of the country but also there are all sides feministic there are also anti gay. anti. and everything you know that has to do with progressivism and in that sense i think it shows a certain country backlash something that we we had
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a reason in other european countries particularly in the united states with trump all right fernando vice being political science professor haven't read out on a university that election happening on sunday thank you very much. thank you. but one of the biggest threats to elections all over the world these days is so-called fake news and its proliferation on social media india nearly nine hundred million voters are casting their ballots in a high stakes election and next month some three hundred fifty million voters go to polling stations across the european union to elect a new parliament so twitter has unveiled a new tool to try to tackle the spread of false information that's what has brought the w.'s maya slater into the studio my i'm a big twitter user i haven't seen this tool tell me tell me what this is all about so this has been rolled out in india already it's going to be rolled out in the e.u. very soon and it's builds on the system that we already know very well which is reporting
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tweets for abuse this is very similar to that but it's specifically about targeting false information about voting attempts to mislead voters about where when or how to vote and we have a well visual about how exactly it works so let's say you're a living your life on twitter as many of us do and you see a tweet saying oh you can just vote by texting which is not how it works in any democracy that i'm aware of so this is an attempt at voter suppression you hit the drop down menu you click it's misleading about voting and then the tweet in question goes off to twitter and it's that easy if you're an ego i user of twitter you too can guard our democracy ok well that's great i mean twitter yeah you guarding democracy story live looks pretty straightforward i suppose we've all been ported a tweet before is it effective is it enough this is the big question twitter has been extremely vague about what actually happens to that tweet once you report it does it get deleted automatically is the account taken down and if it is noteworthy
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that twitter does not actually have a broad policy or definition for what exactly is misinformation so all of the big social media companies twitter facebook google and. cetera have all been under a lot of pressure from governments worldwide to do something about the spread of fake news and the european commission back in march released a report saying none of them are doing enough really now facebook has recently created a new mechanism by which users can see more transparently who is paying for ads where the money's coming from where these people or this government or this business is based that's advertising to them but this twitter mechanism that we're talking about now which twitter is giving a lot of ballyhoo saying this all this will help a lot is relying on users and solely users to have you know good enough to want to . regulate self regulate twitter and problems with voting so it's a bold strategy all have to see if it pans out unveiled now in india coming soon to
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europe. thanks so much. well it's the end of the line for a woman who played at being an heiress and allegedly stole more than two hundred thousand dollars doing it a new york jury found ana sorich and guilty of grand larceny and other crimes for swindling banks and her wealthy friends out of their money or can win by the very high society name of anna delve a she lived a luxury lifestyle posing as a german socialite there she faces between five and fifteen years in prison and possible deportation to germany a country that she really does call home if this all sounds like the plot of a t.v. drama well guess what netflix as acquired the rights to make her story into a new seeds. for don't forget you can find us on twitter either at news or. to our viewers on p.b.s.
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