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inevitably sea levels rise by at least one meter in this century. we're going to have some climate impacts return greater than what we see over maybe. it's really frightening. why are people more concerned. little yellow. shorts may thirty first d.w. . hello and welcome tots twenty one. but as a new landmark the humbled forum is set to open in late summer in a replica oppression palace and it's long been one of germany's most hotly debated and ambitious cultural projects. that's what
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a place that will welcome the world songs on it. in terms of investigation into the provenance of the artifacts the humbled form has lost ten years of funny time. the sway of. the home but for what it's good suggests he left in the history of. the genesis of the humboldt forum and the challenge is our focus this week on the twenty one but let's go back to the beginning. on september seventh one thousand nine hundred fifty the government of the german democratic republic blew up the berlin city palace. it didn't fit with the ideology of the new socialist state. dominating the district of berlin it had been the residence of prussian kings in the german kaiser for over two centuries now it was history. the. the last day
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republic was built in its place the seat of the east german parliament the fox comma and a venue for key events. german reunification heralded the end of the people's palace in one thousand nine hundred the building was closed due to as best as. the discussion regarding the new image of berlin mitter had begun. fans of the building fought to keep that fire last year it will break others advocated for the reconstruction of the prussian palace even erecting a huge mark beside in the summer of one thousand nine hundred three. a third option a modern new building seemed to have no chance. on july fourth two thousand and two the german bundestag voted with a clear majority to reconstruct the old historic city palace. down to the tiniest detail a computer simulation was created. a lot of work.
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but nothing compared to the reality of executing the project. that the public can to be demolished then international architects were invited to tender their ideas italian architecture and costo won the tender his design is based on the baroque original just the eastern facade is modern. but what are the new palace be used for that's an issue that sparked a lot of debate the idea that one in the end is to create a forum for world cultures housing berlin's extensive non european collections in tandem with the european art on the neighboring museum island. the humboldt forum is named after the famous researcher and universal scholar at xander fun humbugged . construction began in june two thousand and twelve the government is providing five
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hundred ninety million euros funding an extra one hundred million euros have been collected in donations to reconstruct the baroque for side. aside from the building itself the current folk. there's only objects displayed inside restitution of colonial era artifacts is a matter of heated debate and one the new mega museum continental. a gruesome murder carved in stone and discovered by chance in guatemala in the nineteenth century. incredible boats from oceania fit for the high seas but without a single nail. and a cave from china where buddhist monks prayed over one hundred thousand years ago. treasures from berlin's enormous collection. prussian rulers started these
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collections over two hundred years ago today they belong to the pressure and cultural heritage foundation and a key player in the new book form. around five hundred thousand exhibits will be on display from all continents mostly acquired in the nineteenth and twentieth centuries. known busty here to be the provenance of the history of the exhibits there biographies how they were made what their original function was how they were acquired and how they made their way into various german collections that's a part of the research on these objects which has become a key focus in recent years. and it's now an emotional wreck and in focus could. the times when cultural artifacts could simply be put on display in european museums are over. the flagship project at their home board forum is raising questions about the provenance and history of objects shedding light on german colonialism
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a chapter of german history which was long suppressed in the public consciousness. were these items stolen. or acquired by illegal means. the humble form. announced that it will host twenty thousand exhibits from berlin's ethnological collections over one thousand of them are from africa. from the late nineteenth century until one nine hundred eighteen the germans had four african colonies the native population was not only exploited brutally enslaved robbed and killed. during this period the german kaiser received a valuable gift the lavish throne of the king of bomb in northwestern cameroon at the time a german colony. what is the significance of such
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a gift when it is not among equals the sculptures and basques where they purchased or are they the spoils of war. oftentimes i think we have to deal with this issue you openly and transparently face up to our past but for them it's a unique opportunity for the humble foreign we can only find a new way into the future by working together jointly with the countries and peoples of origin and by reappraising our past together it's a coffin. depression cultural heritage foundation has been carrying out provenance research for over ten years but recently it's been more intensive and rigorous no doubt as a reaction to the public debate and protests from organizations representing the victims of the restitution of certain objects that were proven to have been acquired by illegal means has taken place in the glare of the media is hammer on parting afraid that his cultural collections good slowly diminish. his answer
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is diplomatic. there is no museum director in the world who can singlehandedly decide which objects should be rested to take from their museum it's a decision of the state boards and organizations have to meet. these decisions so i think it's important to create a national or as i prefer to say a european international consensus on how the restitution should take place to have some kind of ground rules on how to proceed. this could take a while in the meantime exhibits have been on the move to their own board for at full speed the us to logical museum in berlin data where the collection was housed up to now has been closed for some time the last visitors came here in january twenty seventh team since then things have been packed. restored. and dusted off. the famous south
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seas boat said to be put in a disinfestation covered to prevent any harmful insects from moving with them. transporting larger objects is a challenge and dollar a wall was broken through and a gap was left in the facade of the on board farm which was closed up after the exhibits were forty and. none of these objects can be moved again easily we'll soon have pride of place in this exciting contemporary exhibition. was in the museums are no longer temples of contemplation they're more like social libertarius that's why it's so fascinating to work in that the humble foreign will be an extremely attractive place to visit. within the next five friends plans to set the framework for returning cultural artifacts taken from the african countries of origin. two of the experts advising president emmanuel mccraw on the issue you took time out to talk to us twenty one.
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very sour forty six years old is an economist from senegal. needed so voice also forty six is a professor for art history. in berlin and paris both are advisors to french president manuel mark karr. in a speech in brooklyn or fuss over nov twenty seventh team mark on our knowledge that france would be arrested today looted art and artifacts from its former colonies serve or i'm sorry britain if he's ability study on this issue with some politically explosive content. they should be leveled there are around ninety thousand objects in the french national museums and we were able to prove that two thirds of them entered the collections during the colonial era either spoils of war or through scientific expeditions purchased as gifts or bequests. if appropriation
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of the property occurred against the will of the people we researched whether there are restitution claims in the countries of origin in the figure because it is a very sort of three to begin the fun always does that in most cases there was no permission to take the objects that plenty of reports confirm this also whether with scientific expeditions in fear of your vessel we recommend that if there is a restitution claim the objects should be returned without any great difficulty. as a comedian in the media we read about a fear that museum showcases will be empty in five years. is that realistic yes and it's just a list of those that i thought that no it's not the objects of the haman's the collections over centuries for those and they won't all be returned within five years. and soon there is if the students about a few key pieces which are very important to the history or identity of the country of origin we're talking about
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a few hundred at most not tens of thousands of objects the same thousand and four how were the reactions to president micron's idea for us to choosing artifacts or looted art with us to read to him via the reactions we heard were very. we traveled through fool african francophone countries to talk to our colleagues. in the republic of beneath the memory of the destruction of that kingdom by the french you know the memory of french colonial history is still very strong for. the. everybody remembers that there was a king there he was sent into exile and that the palace was burned down. perhaps not everyone knows that two thousand objects then found their way to paris but once you know that the objects came to paris then as a result of this plunder wealth is a pretty even a schoolchild can put two and two together who can't take notes. and
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along with that african curators have thought about how to fill the empty spaces left in european museums after the restitution for me this means important consideration of the relationship the exchange between africa and europe we have a book off in your book of return which has now been published in german you describe how africa is always described from outside as a continent in decline dying and riddled with catastrophes. what is the current debate about restitution say about the way europe perceives africa today of africa central interestingly we are now hearing arguments which reveal a deep seated come dissension towards africa that there are no museums there or that africans are incapable of taking care of their own works of art or cultural heritage not everyone is saying it out loud but many people are convinced that the objects would be much safer in europe and it would even be for the good of africa if they were kept in europe. it means we have
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a lot of work ahead to decolonized the european perception of africa the quran is in oregon the poor and yet it's a finance research is only really just got going yet the humble foreign member lynn is about to open in twenty nineteen how can that work because it's killing them as what this thing was in my recommendation would be that the museums publish their inventor. this would basically mean that we see museums in the same way as libraries a library without a catalogue is just a pile of books of the law and a museum without an inventor e which is available to the public is simply a pile of objects that no one really knows what to do with. advice on fun come what good is it what does this debate mean to you personally but to the sort of as with . the mean it's important to show the dark side of museums that normally only show us their best science as const behind the transparency of the provenance of the stories of where the objects actually come from that's very important to me it's
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vis now we have this debate and everyone knows that the background of these collections is a difficult one. for me and that's a big step. border i mean thanks for talking to us here than in. the multi-disciplinary humboldt lab tanzania project explores questions of cultural heritage with reference to the tanzanian antti facts appropriated during the years of german colonial rule. a plate with mysterious inscriptions brought to berlin in eighteen ninety six as a cheap wardrobe. for years it was mistaken for a gong. after one hundred twenty years it's true purpose has finally come to fight . the fortress and we showed pictures of it to scribes near the city of kill work you see one is where the object had originally been expropriated and they were able to decipher the writing presence of heart and. it turned out to be
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a story from the qur'an. which clearly showed that this object was a protective talisman. protection perhaps in the battle against german colonial rule. for three years the home both kinds of near examined objects that had found their way to the ethnological collections as war trophies and spoils objects that the german occupiers in east africa had often taken with brute force. and get us up by their comments like that in a way you could say it was a sort of collective morning with these colleagues it brought up so many emotions. about seven thousand kilometers further south in dar es salaam tanzania is government sits. tucked away between modern skyscrapers or witnesses to the
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country's colonial past the germans created these botanical gardens nearby the national museum partner of the home boat tanzania. there are over ten thousand artifacts from former german east africa still stored in berlin alone. it was a shock knowing that they have a lot of connections that belong to the congo or the former chairman clinton your question but. these elections were not on display they were close by this storage so no one knew where that the. new or the germans knew. the university of dar es salaam also helped to determine the origins and meanings of what was found a difficult process. to act and that's most of these objects if they were planned and they looked it may mean that there is
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a bevy of it in for their ship about the biography. oh. it's. lies an hour and a half north of dar es salaam it was the capital of former german east africa between eighteen eighty five in one thousand nine hundred eighteen the dream of the german empire of being a colonial power finally came true. for tanzania it was a nightmare. this is where they hang those who dared to rebel against forced labor inflated taxes corporal punishment between one thousand nine hundred five in one thousand nine hundred seven some three hundred thousand tons of new young people died in what became known as the monday mudgee rebellion a scorched earth policy. today the buildings are rented by the invaders are crumbling germany is willing to support restorations but there is no talk of restitute ing their massive theft of cultural assets. back at the museum in dar es
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salaam the historical section hardly shows any african exhibits of german colonial rule an empty space that could be filled with plates like this inscribed with us from the qur'an. if they were. in scripture and we. inspired the five that at the end of the day they would give the. money. yes so that these are the acts to do. because if we had. you know the physic. against it. what would returning these objects mean for historians and museums. i think it took a milestone for the academy and its fights because
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now they will have some of the. heritage. of things to look on and to reflect on into the research and again this is the time for africa that's right in their own history. the first small step has been made. the findings and interpretations made by the african partners of the trans and will be incorporated into the tanzania collection. for. my. guy who. would have been just. going to his to the. from there would be present and that's it would be extremely distraught what it. is is nothing about it but you have a sentry interpretation. does the humbled
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foreignness completion curage is a thinking about how to best showcase the many exhibits and we met director. for a tour of what's still very much a work in progress. germany's most prominent construction site is approaching the finish line for six and a half years workers have been busy here day and night one hundred thousand square meters and six hundred million euros of pure construction costs all according to plan they say. it's still hard to believe that by the end of twenty nineteen berlin will finally be rid of the scaffolding. the burrow for side is almost completely reconstructed just like the modern east wing. the famous shoot the whole of courtyard is still surrounded by scaffolding and it looks like a building site on the inside to. here in the main entrance hall harsh more dogs are all plans to receive the first guests to the home world forum later this year.
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stuff it in yes and builds as a border security guard with a symbolic gesture maybe a private tour they could share salt and bread a tradition in many cultures a comms is all they could blow out alexander from humboldt's birthday candles two hundred fifty of them isn't about find out if they stuck. at xander fun homework the impressive scholar and explorer predicted human induced climate change back in one thousand nine hundred no centuries later experts from all fields will come together here under his name to discuss further challenges of our age globalization colonialism digitalisation. this is even though it's not just a museum an exhibition space it's also a conference center and event location with a theater and dancing and food among the you can go up to the roof or a view of berlin the in it's got a lot to offer that's what i call it a forum it's got a permanent program and a changing program come on and fix and program. a program that will fill these
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grandiose rumors the building has been a challenge for construction workers and exhibition organizers a line. at first all that will open is a berlin show to see world cultures the audience will have to wait until twenty twenty still aren't to imagine our masks flint axes and bronze plates we're looking here but at home bold forum they're optimistic that if the i think the architecture helps the interior it won't just be plain identical exhibition halls the rooms differ greatly and that opens up all sorts of possibilities of how to set the scene for each exhibition and with each new temporary exhibition we'll see a different signature design in the hands of. in one showroom a wooden wall this is where several of the controversy. bronzers are to be displayed that were stolen from africa one hundred twenty years ago france will
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return the ones it took but berlin has yet to make up its mind so for now the busts stay. but they'll be moved to the humbled forum and displayed with video recordings that will include critical voices from their place of origin today's nigeria. one can see as he principle is to offer a space for other voices it isn't only the curators who tell us about their view of things but we are asked other researches and people from the societies of our region what it means to them today. we also asked critics of the exhibitions of at the not tickle museums this will give our forum many different voices was refused to make the top. dog at all promises that not only should the story of the original significance of an object be told in the home board forum but also the story of its acquisition but also goes for on jets from former german colonies yet the current
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discussion regarding african cultural heritage is causing tension dealing with the responsibly remains a challenge yes country it's important to me that we don't lead this discussion the europeans shouldn't decide on restitution alone it should be a joint decision with the countries of origin of the humboldt forum should be a place where this discussion can take place and where we present something that tells a story. like these objects from tanzania. a special exhibition will focus on the joint german african provenance research. and of honesty all still don't use the exhibition on tanzania is a result of this research it will later moved to dar es salaam and the prussian cultural heritage foundation who wants some of these exhibits which was suppose of war to stay in tanzania in tanzania. the tanzania exhibition will be shown in the home board for the second out of twenty twenty after the opening phase which will
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last for a whole year alexander for two hundred fiftieth birthday will be celebrated on september fourteenth in an almost empty building. but on board for a construction site will be around for some time a work in progress. from the one today by why every walk and feed is then.
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