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why are people more concerned. thirty first. this is g w news why but from berlin tonight violence in venezuela military vehicles plowing into protesters who controls the army who controls the country in an exclusive declared president one since the army and the people support his bid to alvin battle president nicolas maduro national guard defectors are joining the protesters and the u.s. says it backs the uprising and with that political lines are being drawn the russia
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and china backing president was. maintaining that no war me chiefs have turned against him but on the streets images of an army against the people government standing by its claim that what we are witnessing is an attempted coup being defeated starts right now. i bring it off it's good to have you with us we begin tonight in venezuela where violent clashes continue on the streets of the capital caracas unrest erupted after venezuela's opposition leader and self declared president one why go urge the army to help him topple nicolas maduro this footage shows an armored vehicle a government vehicle plowing headlong into a crowd of. administrators outside the military base in the city the protesters
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were answering why those called to take to the streets to president maduro why do says he's secured the backing of military leaders but madeira has valent to stop what he's calling a military coup saying he has the total loyalty of his military commanders. well in an exclusive interview with d.w. . was asked how he justifies his call for an uprising against the government of its white. area and it's clear that they are the ones who if you snipped government powers they have carried on a continuous coup since two thousand and eighteen they have disregarded the rule of law they have discounted the constitution they failed to hold free and fair elections and they seized power today the armed forces have taken an important step by siding with the people our process and we've said this is peaceful a nonviolent and we are not going to change that the ones who have caused violence
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through the armed paramilitary forces they call collectives not the regime and we'll maintain a nonviolent stance as demonstrated by the venezuelan people when they took to the streets to protest but it's what i know. for more now i'm joined on the line by our correspondent oscar schlink or he is in the minutes where the capital caracas good evening to you. i want to ask you about something that we heard from an analyst earlier this evening that in venezuela when there are events like this when we're talking about a possible toppling of the government military coup that these things happen very quickly and then possibly this week we could be talking about a transition in government or not how do you see it from where you will. well we haven't seen an uprising or a toppling of the government sort of speech since the fifty's so it's really hard to say how quickly or slow the toppling of
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a government can occur if it topples the government actions however might have been quickly. repressed uprising in the past again going to government and that we have evidence from. paydays and a few years ago tried we have another military general that captain that tried to topple the government up you a few months ago and just a few weeks ago we had another are rising that was a military supported one went on but this is very different now because it's civilians that are protesting and they are joined by military and this is a first and these twenty years of revolution that we've seen the opposition has never been joined by the military and somehow. we saw earlier today
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a key military leader with one glider that's the first time we've seen that speaks to the fact that perhaps the military is defecting to the side of the opposition do we know tonight how much support within the military quite halle's. it's very hard to say it's very difficult to predict there is not a lot of information coming out of the military as you would expect because there is a lot of pressure from the government against the military we've seen in these uprisings in the past that the military that happened detained have suffered incredibly torture their families have have also been persecuted by the go. after they've been detained so there is a lot of fear within the military to announce or to come out in support of one way though that that time is shortening now with. these events of today
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but yeah we have team military time military commanders supporting one way though and there is an obvious break in command when we see that they have freed. one of the most prominent political prisoners in venezuela and that is very significant in today's movements and there's also been a report does evening that lopez and his family have sold refuge in the residence of the chile's ambassador in venezuela what more do you know about this. well there is a lot of accounts as to why aleppo's over. to an embassy right now from reporter think that he is there to ask. her to step down to negotiate with him as a little reaching for his. resignation the president think however that those are accounts that neither the embassy the chilean empathy or the foreign
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minister of china have confirmed they've been informed that no border lopez and his family are there and sick and gas and the referential. mission cheating venezuela after there was also a report does evening that the u.s. envoys of its whaler mr abrams has said that three top image or rogue government officials have been in negotiations with the opposition for restoring order and call him to the country does that speak for or against. one why does efforts. well i think it. everything that. leads up to the fracture. government speaks for one body though and his because that is his goal. in
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achieving a transitional government here in venezuela to answer your sort of condition that you call that a mother who goes government and any negotiation that could topple the government would speak in favor but the negotiation to something that a brown pants have announced but there is a chart to confirm obviously the people that he said were in negotiation with. one way or with the u.s. are not going to say that immediately because they what they've said in recent hours is that they are still supporting the quarter and they're going with them till the end ok our correspondent. with the latest from but it's where the from the capital caracas tonight oscar thank you. well just moments ago u.s.
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national security adviser john bolton urged image uro's aides nicolas maduro his aides to abandon him olten has also made it clear that the u.s. is prepared to intervene with force to support one if it feels that there is a need to do so here's part of what he had to say let me say two things to be very clear number one we want as our principal objective the peaceful transfer of power but i will say again as the president has said from the outset and that nicolas maduro and those supporting him particularly those who are not venezuelan should know is all options are on the table all that is right at the beginning three months ago we said that would be a big mistake for me doro and those supporting him to use force against innocent civilians we feel very strongly about it we felt that way then we feel that way now you know there was john bolton there speaking earlier about the situation in venezuela that even as well the government does not have diplomatic relations with
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washington but one does have an image here in washington i'm joined now from the u.s. capitol by francisco marquez he is the head of the political section for one why those diplomatic mission to washington d.c. it's good to have you on the program we just heard from the u.s. national security advisor john bolton there was saying that it's important that we see aides to leave defect how important is u.s. support tonight for one. well what we seem to day is a legitimate president of the us while asking security forces to restore constitutional order to restore the constitution of one thousand nine hundred nine so you support is very important but also we've seen the support and the recognition of more than fifty countries of the interim presidency and by the way most of latin america so today this is pretty forces responded but also millions of us well and have a spot in the street it's important to note that there's
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a huge blackouts twitter is down social media is down the regime has made it very difficult for renaissance to communicate but that doesn't mean that there's a lot of movement on the ground both from security forces perspective and also for events for millions of us fans we're getting constant feedback on the ground of what's occurring so that's incredibly important and we have to understand this is not something the regime sometimes tries to paint this like this is the us versus the regime but what's going on really here this is the venice film people and the democratic forces and the democratic community of the world against a small ruling class that is supported by by drug trafficking and oil revenue and illegal activities so that's very important to what's going on in venice well and the transition is a process it's a process that are occurring right at this moment and we have to be very careful of the type of information that is transmitted in venezuela this is a process and it's ongoing right now it's a very fluid situation it is a fluid situation that's why when we hear things such as the national security
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advisor mr both say that military intervention. you know is on the table to be that that's a serious threat does that help or hurt one calls at the moment. well what we saw today was a venice on led movement that's what we've seen from the get go that's what we saw generally twenty third when the national assembly designated interim president i know and today we saw this in villains and the military your correspondent something said something very interesting and it's true what we saw today some presidents and you can't call this a coup d'etat because this is a civilian leading the charge to restore constitutional order and so when we say also all options are on the table it's because we need to understand that all sorts of pressures very important to reach the conclusion what we want is what divestment you want is a peaceful transition of power and that's what we're looking for right now and that's what's meant to be today none of the violent clashes or kurd from our side
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but mr work you have to admit though when you say that you're asking the military to restore constitutional order in the country you're asking the military you're asking the soldiers the generals to turn against nicolas maduro that in itself is going to be a source of friction it could be a source of violence i mean you have to admit that one in trying to restore constitutional order is to admit that the path to get there could be a violent war. that's precisely what we're trying to avoid look at what happened this morning our message was for regime forces to stand down avoid bloodshed that really the key to peace is images hands if he goes it is clear is that we have had peaceful demonstrators and even today i'll give you an example don't take my word for it we saw security forces that were used to be loyal to the regime clash with militia groups that have been armed by the regime protecting on armed civilians so that's what's going on in venezuela we're proposing peace and we're asking to go to
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to go further to go and avoid bloodshed because unfortunately we've been pushed against the wall. as causing massive human rights for the vessel people massive suffering so really it's model that is causing war like consequences for venezuela and it's i don't know who is trying to achieve one thing and one thing only free and fair elections let's not forget that that's true that's true the good point let me before we run out of time as we approach the evening it is if mr if he is arrested this evening by. the authorities of nicolas maduro do you have the confidence that the united states will then use military force to free one boy do i have the confidence that the coalition of the venice won't be full let american countries europe and the us will achieve restoring democracy but i saw no matter what happens understand this is the fight of our lives that's what you see
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in venice while we are fighting for our lives and that's why my daughter has to go all right friends its friends mark is joining us tonight from washington mr orcutt we appreciate you taking the time to talk with this thank you very much. and here's a reminder of that top story that we're following for you in venezuela government armored vehicles have plowed into a crowd of demonstrators as the struggle for power work in. this. business is up next. my first my state was a sewing machine. i come from women are almost by this ocean for. something as simple as learning how to write them by side isn't. since i was a little guy i wanted to have a bicycle of my home and it took me mr clinton.

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