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sense of coverage tonight on the iran deal and the south africa elections have to see you then. the for. europe the big idea. what's become of it. will it look like tomorrow. being for a better future isn't enough europe requires our education. european elections twenty nineteen may twenty sixth on g.w. . france's president claims europe is in the grip of a civil war in italy hungry and poland leading politicians say they're fighting to
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save europe's christian soul which way will the continent tun that's all debates from the european parliament here in the heart of brussels. welcome to the comfort zone debate battle lines of being drawn or head of the european elections with more than four hundred million people eligible to vote and increasingly it's a europe of stop contrasts last week about a thousand fascist sympathisers grapes to farm salutes and clashed with riot police in milan disinflation campaigns is said to be running at full tilt and commission president john told you because warned that if nationalist parties on the margins of the right and left. take the upper hand it would mean the end of liberal
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democracy and free society so on issues ranging from migration to rule of law or security and sovereignty our panelists have plenty to argue about something and felt that cheney paean first vice president of the alliance of liberals and democrats for europe she's a member of several parliamentary committees including civil liberties dominic touchin scheme is a member of the polish parliament for the ruling law and justice party he sits on the foreign and e.u. affairs committee's journal and has been a member of the european parliament for twenty years with a progressive alliance of socialists and democrats and is well known for his support for a federal europe max crys vice chairman of the f.t. the ultimate evil for dyche lands in the german state of saxony and number three in the party's federal list for the european elections that's a panel. before we take questions from our invited audience including members of civil society groups i'm going to ask each of our politicians to set out very
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briefly the kind of european future they'd like to see for himself can i ask you to start us off one minute thank you very much and good evening everybody. we are living in a world of triumph china that's becoming stronger political global actor a world where we see big forces like facebook while way apple who are actually more powerful sometimes than states and that is why we need a very strong united and unify europe in order to stand up to these forces and to protect the our quality of like our way of life but the second thing i would like to say is just as important this is not just about a strong europe it's also about europe as a community of values and those values are equality equal rights for all and not everybody believes in that and i think this is very much on the ballot on the
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twenty third to twenty sixth of may and i will be campaigning for equal rights for gender equality for freedom of conscience for bt i rights a europe that is for everybody ok thank you very much you want to united europe you want a strong europe but voter turnout has gone down in every single european parliament election since they began it's going to be different this time. we don't know i think first of all we see in the polls that support for europe is actually going up and the fact that people are critical is not a bad thing it's a good thing it means that people are taking ownership of europe but there's still jaring yes we'll see whether that trend will continue and of course the turnout has to go up if we have the right to vote we should use it because that's how we we keep democracy a life. but i think that this is an organization the european parliament has failed
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time and again to connect to ordinary people bret's it is proof of that and you know i don't think breaks it is proof of that we don't know that the analysis on what breaks it really means is still out because i think you know the reasons why people voted for brics that are maybe very much connected to the reasons why american people voted for trump and incidentally to turn out in your because america and i was there for you don't you can maybe you can hear me out the american turnout at the american elections is not very high either but it's clear that people are facing a choice of the kind of world they want to live in some people would like to go back in time take rights away from people you know end equality and pluralism and free democracy and that is really what's at stake here for a government doubling touching school come to europe you'd like to see i'd like to see christian europe christian europe as a faith as a law as a culture i'd like to see the europe which was built on the christian values this
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is who you are this is what i said previously that christianity is our d.n.a. and it's not about our faith family it's about the ages of all of the previous generations is who you are and from the christianity comes out the whole the whole culture roman law greek philosophers this is this is what was built on christianity and so what i don't or and. as a new structure of the society. without christianity i don't like people messing around like mr soros he's playing with the nations he's financing organizations who are absolutely anti christian some agree that equality is very important that's why i don't want i don't want to see churches like twenty four churches within week burned in and france i don't want to see that so that's the only december right that's the symbol so i want christian roots i think safety even to europe but we got the point you pride yourself on christian values that's right but your attitude
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to immigration run directly counter to christian values don't they at least in the eyes of the pope the catholic pope jesus is present he said in the migrants and refugees who seek safety and a dignified life in a new land it is christ he said we're not some outdoor hungry thirsty a stranger making hundreds things and agree and imprisoned but he better be not knocking on your door because you won't let him in because the difference between illegal immigration and refugee is a legal difference by the international law i keep repeating it for the last three or five years we don't mind to take refugees in they submit their documents and ask for permission to be told that we don't mind nothing's changed in twenty years of free poland you don't want muslim immigrants you don't want illegal migration and you don't want to lose limbs now you're talking about legal question no no no no you want a distance we don't want illegal migration if it's christian if it's mostly if it's hindu or it's not believe or we don't want illegal migration we don't want people on the boats coming without documents i would if i thought there's
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a little let me here let me let me finish so if they want to come to poland they can apply to can submit their documents but what is happening now is just the madness which is again something else and regular you say our soul is alive and the west's soul is dead that's right some of your expert on cells what makes you the keeper of the sacred truth. first of all just quickly yes because i'm a roman catholic so the spirit is very important to me obviously this is just the picture. through fas that eighty five percent of polish society is catholic and we cherish our traditional telling the rest of europe how to live by without telling anyone we want you saying it's the values the real value for europe we value our road into christianity not about beautiful words john lennon your vision of europe these intimate imo roman catholic myself i have a totally different vision of polish pretty much is there for a slogan of yours diversity and unity unity and diversity diversity makes us rich in any aspect and the single if there is it's very good sixty years of
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european integration has poured us this peace and freedom and now in these years we have to secure being and security so i think that we have to complete the common market in a digital europe it's really a set we have to be fair up in the social aspects i think it's candor that some people don't pay taxes fierce normal people have to pay their taxes look on the gaza like amazon and google they don't pay their taxes as absolutes candid and certain sustainable equal logically i mean it's a must to be live over the planetary limits and i think climate protection is one of the key issues in next year's all right you've said. you've said also in the past that you want a strong and sovereign europe to defend the union's interests and values in the globalized world this is what you've said but the e.u.
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already has enormous power as the world's largest trading bloc and it's not using it for that is it it's not defending values basic values you know a lot about human rights for instance in egypt continue to sign trade deals with them you don't use the power that you do it in the only family economically rio really a giant the biggest market in the verge but i behave like i don't think any we are twelve and indeed we have to really improve. in our political let's say outlook towards diverge and really. booking we sell our values and our principles but i think that you also see iraq in agreements with libya saying your rights my grandson have them incarcerated for years in holding centers where they're abused and beaten not looked at do you one thing that is out of. the word fifty percent of. human aids is coming from the you we are not as good as we should be but let's say it doesn't work to an end next
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legislative priorities or is it's all about words it's all right it's not it isn't it isn't it true because i am i am also object strongly tow to those deals who are not in line with our values and i think part of the reason why europe is concluding is because some governments like your government refuse to participate in the calling the site and migration. policy and you use you actually you have you or your you know nation as you have you have sole income you have youthful words but you you don't actually put them into practice and it is true when you say that on the one hand you basically want to create a theocracy and christian it has to be christian and at the same time would answer is democratic ok everyone can you know you don't see one so if you're going to let . her and then i briefly and then i'll go to your mother did you want to say anything else just what i'm saying is our country is very open we're democratic country everyone is free to believe or not to believe whatever he wants what i'm
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saying is as a lawyer as a polish as a christian when i see throughout the ages when i see the history and when i see the state of the european union now i do believe that the real value is not. it's not ok and google it's roman law right there's already laws if you have a really hard to get into that later max cry your vision of europe you know in a minute the first thing is that we distinguish between europe and the union europe a place of a lot of virus of diversity and morality of peoples and cultures on a very small room globally and that's makes you a rich. and we well you the riot of certain governments of all those peoples on countries we have in europe on the other hand there is a common ground of my colleague told us which was the tradition of greek philosophy and roman lore. and of course we have to do something in common and every serious european politics with reliable has to balance our between the acceptance of
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serenity and off the diversity of cultures on the one hand and on the other hand to look what is needed to do in a joint way and what we see today is that almost all parties we have in germany accept us the only say more brussels and more unionist the answer and we say no it's not the answer we have to look orders better solve and better government on a regional level or eight and that is our point you you said in the past that europe needs to rediscover and value its cultural heritage yes and identity why some europeans do some some don't set choice countries move forward that it's true that countries evolve the world evolve yes but you you only can involve onion know where you come from you need to you need of a common ground the common ground you want to go back to days of strong nation states strong we want the first sense the truth isn't it was felt back that well
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isn't that the first thing that these these nationalist extremist parties to friends about when they get to power we want is act women's right is attack b.t.i. right for is attacking an agenda as that is allegedly to mr know women's rights of women just and women's rights like a. gimmick can we women that arrives and and gay rights are now under attack because of the muslim immigration and you know orchestra in their r.v. under attack. women's rights and their tech gay rights in countries like poland and a country. under siege countries you don't have attacks on the streets on games and on women force that you have it you have it in countries where you have a very high having spirit or whatever nothing else to govern our great women's right we don't draw a line and we really. empty. poland there's a free country germany is a free country france is free country every country is
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a free country the european union is the first let me you you are to interventionist let the others talk and then it's better than i can you know deal being union as a free assembly of nations all of them had a random for join or a lot of really. put down long ality to the principle. decision in common so i don't see this sudden. fall deck in the last century usa my nation is to create just by nation is to free is ok. ok when i listen to your new one not only tonight but what you write and what you talk to other people you know i want to tell them i wonder and i want to take the discussion or a little bit simpler i want to. shoot it serves not to remove and you've we've talked on the subject of migration i'd like to continue with it for a few moments because not only is it one of the biggest issues facing the european
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union but it's arguably one of its biggest failures isn't it in the way what what chance that the next parliament will do better than this one in setting out a policy that can command a consensus because you don't have action actually parliament actually reached consensus on the entire assignment package another migrant it is actually to council where it's completely saw no member countries in the council that you don't chose are to revisit this off the liberal i guess what i'm going to and that's exactly something you can sell to that time to somebody and that's a good experience or can i just. point is that you know. the council has become somewhat of a. of a kind of black box everything stops there nothing moves forward whereas the parliament has actually been able to find broad consensus clued in the extremist but the socialist liberals e.p. p. greens i mean there was a. resolution brought our lives very very but resolution yeah ok so i'm going to come in let me let me tell you how they set up the fire and now they're trying to
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use the water to set it down complete nonsense ok thank you very much for you don't you let me so i mean it's not even so much you're going to be a little bit nuns much variance in the european parliament socialist liberals. so and the council is socialist and they have all the tools they can sell out to do so and i was conservatives really is no let me let them let me just say you know i don't want to give you a chance they're coming for me so i can still be my jury at c. four years liberals n.p.p. and socialists they have all the tools to set up to solve the problem but they can't they do not know how i'm guillen merkel was looking for cheap labor she didn't want to help anyone and then she found out that she they don't want to work they don't want to learn the language so they just found out i have to send them back so that's why she said yeah that's what if you use help you least send them
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saying i'm out just a few once a day and they are just really really really want out of that listen to such nonsense but ok that's the most recent one is the average mom is it my own laziness it is so the angular america was having to immigrants for cheap labor. finished visit i think we had a problem in two fifteen to sixteen because rate of boy. the boy in syria boys in our neighborhood and nobody could see the hundreds thousands of people walking out of the misery but in the meantime if you look what we have achieved we have a whole package of measures we have no dentistry tension everybody who comes in the is it and he fired we have. worked on our board us respond thinks we have done the package with africa the countries where most of the poverty migrants come so i think in the notion business alone yeah. yeah if i don't in the lurch i know you
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know but only under six very successful policy because you have not the migration flows of four years ago take your of i don't have anybody who are doing prices in the middle east and poverty in africa you will have migration all the time and. two minutes are together and that place is you are like let me go let me go let me go. to you really get. water in your mother's grave of you know i want to read remarks crime my goodness if you are if you have your describe be correct like these are local artist or are you sure i am serious if they are the way they are in for you started we legalize so we do please just let max finance a lot of typical lies of the german left from tax has increased the numbers of of migrants over the mediterranean sea and then our friend mathilde so he came and closed the borders and closed of course he stopped migration the balkan route was stopped by victor or. otherwise merkel wouldn't be chancellor anymore if he didn't
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stop the migration and two thousand and fifteen that means or money and and so when he did the job what do you note is a great success of the european union to. let me formally let me answer ninety minutes let me speak up and i like to think he's the u.p.a. in union would have taken control over hungary and borders and the chilean ports he would not have stopped immigration at all that means our side solves the problems you created by by take the migrants to europe because syria is not our neighbor ok look some. things well i agree with parts which are said but i disagree with one thing as long as we know that there are thirty five thousand people dead in the mediterranean we cannot talk about success if we see mr orbit starving migrants to death and locking them up in containers i do not consider is that it's been so slow
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maybe i can finish that game and use that as a new things that have been i thank you so ok well let's all go and visit it's going to of been at about one forty second you let her finish i wasn't i wasn't aware that mr orban is running lebanon i think he's running hungry and talking but i didn't feel gentle build a fence migrants or people in europe make this my dream on. literally needs migration for them and we need to we we need control mannish like rationing we need to be almost about what we are doing is building fortress europe which is just the equivalent to european equivalent of trumping all ok i get into a lot of problems then migration history too and i enjoyed it although i don't like to move on to our first question from our invited representatives of civil society under storyline from human rights watch what is it you'd like to us these very much this thank you very much. in europe the most important political lesson of the twentieth century was that political intolerance can lead to the end of democracy
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and to horrific crimes now today's europe we hear exactly the same rhetoric coming from far right politicians attacking minorities attacking migrants attacking. anyone they can get their hands on we hear anti-semitism we hear islamophobia so i am going to ask you a very specific question in a minute touches he mr actions he said just hold on if you can just be quiet for five seconds before you take power i would like to know what the parties on the right think about history did you learn absolutely nothing from twentieth century european history absolutely nothing you mr cross said learning our history is very important and you sit here and you repeat the phrases that we heard in the one nine hundred twenty nine hundred thirty s. it's outrageous now is your question mr touch and see here we go you want a christian europe where does that leave those of us who aren't christian are we second class citizens we medical experiments what do you want with us and to you on
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the other side the left what you going to do about these people what do you know offer the public to show these people for what they are and just do something about the mad men this time so we don't have a repeat of last time. don't touch inskeep ok so the christian europe is not muslim euro i don't want you slam ization i'm not the only do you want to dance or i want you want to answer no i listen to you so listen you know i don't want islamization in europe i don't want terrorism i think i'm trying to answer i did. he did listen to things so i should not go to question it wasn't a question wasicka was on friday to answer the question i don't want i don't want islamization of europe i don't want terrorism in europe there is no christians who are shouting christ is the law before they blow themselves up but every single terrorist attack is it's followed by a lot of bar this is just
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a fact and christianity decision chances are ok let me let me say what i think so. what i said every country is a free and democratic country you can be a muslim hindu nonbeliever i don't care but for me my value is christianity and this is my program as a politician and then the nation is deciding that's that's how democracy works so that is why our government was elected that's why our governments are elected in hungary in sweden in other countries so lets people decide what is important for them for me who's johnny and the christian values are important let people decide and don't tell them how the country should look like because this is what you think it's called democracy let people vote. was there was a question directly there are times when you're winning when you receive more really. by your imagination not doing the same thing right to use military
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commissions and every second please. and that was asked. would you like to answer yes i think what you call democracy which which i actually mean is the rule of the majority and i think the essence of democracy is that we also take care of minority minority views so that is something very different and in my europe people are free to hold any religion that they have and they will not be and they will all this is what i'm certain they will all be treated and represented equally by the public authorities and that's a big difference and that also means that there are that there is equal treatment of men and women there is i have an area where equal treatment well actually you are attacking women's rights like for example their sexual and reproductive health a right and i'll answer that was the animal up for human reproductive animals i represent the priests that have finished things people are having a babies they having a lot of not reproduction extensions you please not a fair go. i'll try and answer to mr shore line i think one of
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the mistakes that we have mate over the years is that whenever a pro european centrist moderate forces are talking about europe they're talking about europe in very technocratic terms about internal market which i wholeheartedly support and a common currency we don't have to gots to actually stand up for the europe values and i stand for a europe of progressive values of equality your brother has been have i should different values yes well you know in my europe you're going to look like titles even to lose and what i want to bet yes you're going to hammer away you people and i don't work together how you can work together because one of the duties of politicians is to compromise how you can work together i'm very open but i am not open for four madness to me the illegal migration which is called refuse refugees they are not refugees i keep repeating the refugees the person who flee to the first safe country to from the country of the conflict not flying throughout the
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globe so if we are talking about the rule of law and the rules are broken and the words are used in a sense in a different way how can you how can you cooperate on how can you respect the rule of law when one little of migration is not a really deep by the law one word one word because my europe's not just europe of equality but also the europe of diversity where everybody has a place because diversity is exactly what his mate europe the best most prosperous free and safest continent in the world is not a very it's not about saving your country i mean i'm down south so i'm just going to go back to and it's like you know i don't buy the very briefly very briefly are you encouraged by anything you heard. i'm sorry but i think it's very revealing that mr chintzy refusing to answer the question about what he would do with non christians in his christian europe yes i think that explains the absolutely everything believe what they were it's very clear so we have heard this rhetoric in the one nine hundred twenty s. in the one hundred thirty s. in europe we know where your talk leads you can shake your head all you want but
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we've seen it before we've been here before and europe is sick of it and we're not putting up with men like this when they are much all right next question comes from alexandrina my mother which from the european civic forum what would you like to ask things thank you. in today's europe. raising inequalities fear of the future and a growing number of people who feel left behind these are undermining democracy and trust in a common future and progressive populist forces are surfing on these feelings with quite success i would say they are they and so this failure of democracy to deliver access to rights for all with less democracy because they build collective identities based on exclusion. and they try to shrink and to.
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shut up the space for dissent for democratic checks and balances for civil society for media for academia and so on and so forth come to a question but my question is addressed to the progressive camp. what kind of policies do we need to get out of this deadlock because it's not enough to say that we are pro europeans alongside what you said in the beginning what kind of policies we need to bring equality and solidarity and to make this european project great for all ok joe line and. receive all our societies and even between states the strong get stronger and the rekers the recall get weaker the rich get richer and the as a stay poor will do it up front and therefore i think it's the big task of the next years to put the social dimension of our european politics in the center we have to have standards for the countries whether it's minimum wage whether it access to
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health whether it's a proper pension system what if they don't. like what we have worked thirty years to get conversions in the monetary area it is possible to get the same under social there is some pressure now to cut off funding to those countries that don't abide by some of the rules are you in favor of that you know we have to do in the next financial framework a lot of funds for child care for youth unemployment for really helping countries to raise the standards and not to lower them but i think the fragmentation of social fragmentation in our society is the root for populism for our russian and then this goes against immigrants it goes against minorities and then he ends it goes against everything they don't like their government or. because the european union so i think technically the root causes of fragmentation in society
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is the big issue of the next let she fights cry yes the first thing is we don't solve problems in economic problems by centralization and more rules from brussels so that we solve it by competition and by giving back the economic decisions back to do people who are the economic actors that's the first thing you can't have a common minimum wage in romania and in germany the same ones so you have to have different solutions of the first thing the sex the next that i wonder a little bit that the member of the social democrats who introduced agenda twenty ten in germany and to make a lot of reforms exactly the other way around is now proposing social politics the peace party and poland introduced to social politics as a market economy for the literary man and your partner the p.o. platform of dollars. introduce a lot of corruption and and social policy so well orbital rosina my tale is not any
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best on the liberal side speak about the new era well and another about it already and long as we don't need we've got it we don't need more regulation and rustles we need more flexibility more competition and more market economy for small businesses and not for the big multinational conference that are your friends and your supporters there are things that are likely very briefly the only way to move on now one of the key principles in the european treaty is economic and social cohesion so we have a big market the market is competition there we have to head to small and medium sized companies that is not a problem but. that competition over the years the big get bigger stronger and stronger a huge disparities are there and secretary engineer found we have to why do we have politics politics is there to correct a failure that is not doing it is a good thing for me not doing it and you have a chance. we need to have a social cohesion policy that served what could or i told her i'm going to i'm
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going to move on because we can ask one question jim is very well because this thing is we're running out of time you so i need to move on yet you believe in the nation state you know it is one thousand nine hundred three invention to be the answer to the twenty first century challenges do you think that nation states are actually up to the multinationals like apple is a country like ireland for example has to be obliged by the european commission to live in thirteen billion euros in texas never mind microsoft or facebook and all the others i mean that's the world and you know four and national tax revenue service or order of the multinational you can't can you just said they're listening to other people don't you if you if for the big multinationals the national tax revenue service the actual seven have an issue with respect. alex cross you want the knowledge you are the very are a very very good reform issue can i finish my sentence please how do you want to sort of you know i just won the nazi nationals you know national tax revenue
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service i r like snack and are just shopping around in europe so if we want you to stand up against the big multinationals and make them pay taxes in europe then we have to do that together as a european ok that's why you haven't done it yet that's what marx crowd under first thing else you can't explain so it's silent on the base on your through because the people in switzerland they have high wages and they have a high living standards and they have to multinational and country and the product they train access to pay taxes and that's a physics second even in the european union they don't pay taxes so obviously something goes wrong with it in your view a large space and the point is i agree but you've got a customs union need a joint customs and trade policy otherwise it doesn't work but we don't need to join liberal lore we don't need a joint minimum wage and we don't need a joint novel ok all right nice cross thank you. thank you for that we have to move on now and we're going to take two questions together first from richard gardner
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from global witness and then leo hoffman x. down from transparency international richard will you go first this evening thank you very much for the opportunity to speak today my question concerns somewhere where europe is very integrated just the financial system europe is one of the largest global markets in the world this means money small of the world is flowing in and out of europe on a daily minute by minute basis that means there's a high likelihood that the e.u. financial system is helping to fund human rights abuses to fuel the fire mantle destruction globally also to inadvertently or potentially intentionally funding are fueling them corrupt situation corruption and also money laundering this european parliament did try to do a lot of good work under the guidance of the commission to tackle that but what is your vision of how this parliament can act on this in particular to make sure that european. it does not fuel environmental destruction which is something critical at this stage should have seen the u.n. report about species this week and also the recent i.p.c.c. one point five degrees and also to make sure that you have tackles money laundering
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which has been an issue and has prompted ok give us an example because we've been taking another question at the same time leo hofmann axtell your question please for transparency international thank you well in recent years we've not only seen one topic on that you've seen we've not only seen people speak about migration or using the issue for their political goals we've also seen a steady erosion and very very young erosion of the rule of law and of the macwrite the institutions in the member states we've seen direct attacks on the independence of the judiciary we've seen governments threatening media freedom so intimidating civil society shockingly we've even seen two journalists murdered for their investigations into corruption the condemnation however from political leaders in brussels has only come if it were governments in the member member states that were ruled by the opposing parties and actually this is not just a case in the so-called rule of law and justice government in poland it's also the
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case with the conservatives and hungary it's the case was the socialists and malta and it's also the case with the prime minister bobbish and his conflict of interest was the liberals in the czech republic so my question to you is what do you intend in the next legislature to do about this and i would mainly ask the parties that are expected to. actually do some of these reforms in government thank you ok thank you for your question or for your opinion it is true that the free media were interested in the past in poland i am the best example i used to work as a director of the polish public television and i was fired. when civic platform won election just because my views are conservative i was a member of the party and i was fired so i'm the best example you're right liberals just throw me away i lost my job so you're right the free media where interest in poland in the past not any more judiciary the difference between german system and
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poly system of judiciary is that minister of justice in germany appointing judges and in poland minister of justice cannot appoint the judge or through. ok the parliament but didn't the rule but that's essentially invite political decisions making by the minute let me finish let me. let me finish so we need an answer on tackling corruption corruption ok money laundering who was the one who was invited to the european poland parliament two weeks ago martin called stuff from the open dialogue foundation and we found out that she is into the money laundering from russia and she was invited by the socialist to be that important european parliament ok thank you very much ok so so so votes. ok this is very briefly because we're running out a giant by haitian very bad i think and probably the one thing that the just the
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only thing that we will ever agree on is that indeed the fact that the european commission has only dared to target poland. addressing the fundamental rights violations and the rule of law violations is because they're the law and justice party is not a member of the family or any of the other families and that is why i was very honored to be repartee or of a proposal for a brought mechanism to uphold democracy the rule of law and fundamental rights in other words the so-called article two of the treaty values and i am very confident that even if it took some time for the european commission and the european council to come to the. realization that we need such. mechanism i think it will materialize in the next in the next period and that means all the member states will be set on the basis of the same criteria on a regular annual basis ok the council of europe decided in february an offshoot of the council of europe press freedom in europe is now in
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a worse state than at any time since the cold war how worrying is that joe line the very briefly very briefly we're running out of time it's absolutely boring because those in power in some countries try to undermine the freedom of press and we have been on top of the new media fake news on daily basis from morning till morning so we're really in danger to losing from one of our democracies by mechanisms that undermine the really spirit of a decent and really true dialogue and argument is undermined by those mechanisms from governments in power as well as other powers outside the e.u. all who try to money political public good marks cross words are you know about this state of press freedom in europe i'm very worried about because what we see now is the attempt of the governments to censor the social net for the social media
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and for instance the shoreline's party introduced a that's fair to set source because that's what it was censorship laure in germany that leads facebook and twitter to to to to block a lot of users don't want hate speech which you make facebook which is a private owned company to censor the net for which is shameful we have more blocked users of facebook and twitter in germany then we have in russia and you sit here and tell me you overt about freedom of press and freedom of expression there's a live it is typical for your party or just. typical for your parking meters and the point is that that freedom of opinion is now mostly on the internet there to people debate and discuss and governments mostly left wing liberal governments especially the party of july and they introduce morse to undermine the freedom of
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debate and the internet and that's very shameful and this is something we will end immediately if we get the possibility to do so you could bring get through bring freedom to our line you know you have twenty seconds i use shamed by that not at all why not just divide the hate speech is what i really fall it's the speech being we are guaranteed a freedom of speech not truthful pinion but what we see on the internet is really beyond the red lines and you have to have measures to really limited all right we're going to have to leave that question there my thanks to our for panelists and they are questioners here in the audience and to all of you for watching don't forget there's a longer version of this debate which you can find online for now from all of us on the team here the european parliament in brussels thank you.
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for. that. alone. can we can into this world. can the human mind. and we can make him feel that if. i leave.
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sometime in the twenty sixth. my great granddaughter. what made the world be like in your lifetime and around half a century. when i was born there were three people you'll share the planet with nine billion. your world could be around two degrees more. evidently sea level rise by at least one meter in this century. we're going to have some climate impacts which are greater than what we see already. let's. talk to. our people more concerned. thirty first of
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all you. cut. cut. cut. this. country's stuck between tehran and washington struggling to save the nuclear deal iran's president says he's withdrawing from areas of the two thousand. and fifteen curtailing iran's nuclear program the announcement comes one year after the u.s. pulled out and it could see tehran enriching uranium again soon also coming up polls have closed in a pivotal lection for south africa the ruling african.