there thirty five thousand people dead in the mediterranean we cannot talk about a success if we see mr orbit starving migrants to death and looking them up in containers i do not consider is that slice you know since it is slow maybe i can finish that ok and then he's going to have a new things that have been always fake news ok well let's all go and visit the signal get into our deniable on forty second eleven finish i wasn't i wasn't aware that mr orban is running lebanon and i think he's running hungry. bill james will defend migrants or people in europe naked as my table literally needs migration for them and we need to we need to control mannish migration we need to be almost about it and what we're doing is building fortress europe which is just the equivalent to european equivalent of trumping all ok and i think it is a lot of other problems than migration usually do not want to although i don't think you'll move on to our first question from our invited representatives of civil society under storyline from human rights watch what is it you'd like to us

these very much this thank you very much. in europe the most important political lesson of the twentieth century was that political intolerance can lead to the end of democracy and to horrific crimes now today's europe we hear exactly the same rhetoric coming from far right politicians attacking minorities attacking migrants attacking. anyone they can get their hands on we hear anti-semitism we hear islamophobia so i am going to ask you a very specific question in minute touches can mr harkins peace or just hold on if you can just be quiet for five seconds before you take power. i would like to know what the parties on the right think about history did you learn absolutely nothing from twentieth century european history absolutely nothing you mr krause said learning our history is very important and you see here you repeat the phrases that

we heard in the one nine hundred twenty nine hundred thirty s. it's outrageous now is your question mr touch and here we go you want a christian europe where does that leave those of us who are christian and we second class citizens we medical experiments what do you want with us and to you on the other side the left what do you do about these people what do you know of for the public to show these people for what they are and just do something about the mad men this time so we don't have a repeat of last time they're in touch inskeep ok so the christian europe is not muslim europe i don't want you slam ization i'm not the only thing they want you to answer i want you want to answer no i listen to you so listen you know i don't want islamization in europe i don't want terrorism i did until a few months i don't know any friends like things let him he didn't listen to things so. not things question it wasn't a question of asa coon's on trying to answer the question otherwise i don't want

islamization of europe i don't want terrorism in europe there is no christians who are shouting christ as the law before they blow themselves up but every single terrorist attack is it's followed by a lot of bar this is just a fact and christianity isn't sure ok let me let me say what i think so. what i said every country is a free and democratic country you can be a muslim hindu nonbeliever i don't care but for me my value is christianity and this is my program as a politician and then the nation is deciding that's that's how democracy works so that is why our government was elected that's why our governments are elected in hungary in sweden in other countries so let people decide what is important for them for me johnny and the christian values are important let people decide and don't tell them how the country should look like because this is what you think

it's called democracy let people vote. was there was a question very like there are times when you're winning when you really were going to buy your emotion or not going in the same favorite use military commissions and on every second please we're not interested in joining that was asked of sophie. would you like to answer this i think what you call democracy which which i actually mean is the rule of the majority and i think the essence of democracy is that we also take care of minority eleanora t. views so that is something very different and in my europe people are free to hold any religion that they have and they will not be and they will all this is what i've said they will all be treated and represented equally by the public authorities and that's a big difference and it also means that there are that there is equal treatment of men and women there is i would have an area where equal treatment well actually you are attacking women's rights like for example their sexual and reproductive health and right and i'll answer that with the animals for human reproductive animals i

represent that have finished people are having a babies they having a lot of not reproduction extensions which is not a fair go. i'll try and answer to mr storyline i think one of the mistakes that we have made over the years is that whenever a pro european centrist moderate forces are talking about europe they're talking about europe in very technocratic terms about internal market which i wholeheartedly support and a common currency we don't have to gets to actually stand up for the europe values and i stand for a europe of progressive values of equality has been about i should different values yes well you know in my europe you're going to look like titles even to lose and what i want to bet yes you're going to hammer out why you people don't work together how you can work together because one of the duties of politicians is to compromise how you can work together i'm very open but i am not open for full

madness to me the illegal migration which is called refuge refugees they are not refugees i keep repeating the refugees the person who flee to different state country to from the country of the conflict not flying to all the globe so if we are talking about the rule of law and the rules are broken and the words are used in this in a different way how can you how can cooperate on how can you respect the rule of law and when illegal migration is not the rigi by the law one word one word because my europe's not just europe of equality but also the europe of diversity where everybody has a place because diversity is exactly what his mate europe the best most prosperous free and safest continent in the world is not a very it's not that so even york on that so i'm just going to go back to and say you know and by the very briefly very briefly are you encouraged by anything you heard. i'm sorry but i think it's very revealing that mr chance he refuses to

answer the question about what he would do with non christians in his christian europe yes i think that explains where i believe everything really what they were it's very clear so we have heard this rhetoric in the one hundred twenty s. in the one hundred thirty s. in europe we know where your talk leads you can shake your head all you want but we've seen it before we've been here before and europe is sick of it and we're not putting up with men like this we will educate when to learn much all right next question comes from alexandrina nine love each from the european civic forum what would you like to us things thank you. in today's europe. raising inequalities fear of the future and a growing number of people who feel left behind these are undermining democracy and trust in a common future and progressive populist forces are surfing on these feelings with quite success i would say they they and so this failure of democracy to

deliver access to rights for all with less democracy because they build collective identities based on exclusion. and they try to shrink and to. shut up space for descent for democratic checks and balances for civil society for media for academia and so on and so forth come to a question but my question is addressed to the progressive camp. what kind of policies do we need to get out of this deadlock because it's not enough to say that we are pro europeans alongside what you said in the beginning what kind of policies we need to bring equality and solidarity and to make this european project great for all ok your line of. receive all our societies and even between states that the strong get stronger and the rekers they recall get weaker than the rich get richer and the other stay poor little will do well fronts and therefore i

think it's the big task of the next years to put social dimension of our european politics in the center we have to have standards for the countries whether it's minimum wage whether it access to health whether it's proper pension system whatever i don't mean. that what we had thirty years to get conversions in the monetary area it is possible to get the same under social there is some pressure now to cut off funding to those countries that don't abide by some of the rules are you in favor of that we have to do in the next financial framework a lot of funds for child care for youth unemployment for really helping countries to raise the standards and not to lower them but i think the fragmentation and social fragmentation in our society is the root for populism for our profession and this goes against immigrants it goes against minorities and their dns it goes

against everything they don't like their government or. because the european union so i think technically the root causes of fragmentation in society is the big issue of the next let your facts cross yes the first thing is we don't solve problems in economic problems by centralization and more rules from brussels so that we solve it by competition and by giving back the economic decisions back to to people who are the economic actors that's the first thing you can't have a common minimum wage in romania and in germany the same ones so you have to have different solutions of the first and the sex the next is that i wonder a little bit that the member of the social democrats who introduced agenda twenty ten in germany and to make a lot of reforms exactly the other way around is now proposing social politics the peace party and poland introduced to social politics as a market economy for the right man and your partner the p.o.

platform of double talk to us introduce a lot of corruption and unsocial policy so well or badly rosy that my tale is not any best i mean a lot of or else i speak about who i am where i live and other than it already and i'm not and we not only need we've got it we don't need more regulation and rustles we need more flexibility more competition and more market economy for small businesses and lots for to pick a national conference that are your friends and your supporters there are things that are long way very briefly the only way to move on now one of the key principles and treaty is economic and social cohesion so we have a big market the market is competition there we have to head to small and medium sized companies that is another problem but. that competition is over the years the big get bigger stronger and stronger a huge disparities are there except very engineer found we have to buy do we have

politics politics is there to correct a failure as it is not doing it is going to be for me not doing it and you have a chance. we need to have a social cohesion poor lucy that's what could or a tower my mother i'm going or i'm going to move on because we can ask one question to mr well because this thing is we're running out of time you so why you need to move on if you believe in the nation state you know it is one thousand nine hundred three invention to be the answer to the twenty first century challenges do you think that nation states are actually up to the multinationals like apple if a country like ireland for example has to be obliged by the european commission to levy thirteen billion euros in taxes never mind microsoft and facebook and all the others i mean that's the world and you know four and national tax revenue service or the multinational you can't can you just said that in those who are listening to other people don't you if you if for the big multinationals the national tax

revenue service the actual service have an issue with respect. alex cross you want the knowledge right that very are a very very correct punish going to finish my sentence please how do you want to show you know i just won the nazi nationals you know national tax revenue services are like snack and are just shopping around in europe so if we want you to stand up against the big multinationals and make them pay taxes based on your theory because the people in switzerland they have high wages and they have a high living standards and they have to mow to national and country and a product they train access to pay taxes and that's a physics second even in the european union they don't pay taxes so obviously something goes wrong within your your large space and the point is i agree with you that the customs union needs joint customs and trade policy but i was it doesn't work but we don't need to join liberal lore we don't need a joint minimum wage and we don't need a joint novel ok it's all right nice cross thank you thank you. thank you for that

we have to move on now and we're going to take two questions together first from richard gardner from global witness and then leo hoffman x. down from transparency international richard will you go first is that evening thank you very much for the opportunity to speak today my question concerns somewhere where europe is very integrated just a financial system europe is one of the largest global markets in the world this means money from all of the world is flowing in and out of europe on a daily minute by minute basis that means there's a high likelihood that the e.u. financial system is helping to fund human rights abuses to fuel our environmental destruction globally also to inadvertently or potentially intentionally funding are fueling them corrupt certain corruption and also money laundering this european parliament did try to do a lot of good work and under the guidance of the commission to tackle that but what is your vision of how this parliament can act on this in particular to make sure that european money does not fuel environmental destruction which is something critical at this stage of seeing the u.n. report about species this week and also the recent i.p.c.c.

one point five degrees and also. to make sure that your money laundering which has been an issue and has come to ok thanksgiving's and it's now because we've been taking another question at the same time leo hofmann axtell your question please from transparency international thank you well in recent years we've not only seen one topic on the e.u. scene we've not only seeing people speak about migration or using the issue for their political goals we've also seen a steady erosion and very very anger ocean of the rule of law and of democratic institutions in the member states we've seen direct attacks on the independence of the judiciary we've seen governments threatening media freedom intimidating civil society shockingly we've even seen two journalists murdered for their investigations into corruption the condemnation however from political leaders in brussels has only come if it were governments in the member member states that were ruled by the opposing parties and actually this is not just

a case in the so-called law and justice government in poland it's also the case with the conservatives and hungary it's the case with the socialists and malta and it's also the case with the prime minister by bush and this conflict of interest was the liberals in the czech republic so my question to you is what do you intend in the next legislature to do about this and i would mainly ask the parties that are expected to let me actually do some of these reforms in government thank you ok thank you for your question for your opinion it is true that the free media were interested in the past in poland i am the best example i used to work as a director of the polish public television and i was fired when sitting platform one yet election just because my views.