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iran venezuela north korea the world's 3 top geopolitical flashpoints in all 3 russia and the u.s. are working against each other and don't forget about what russia did and plans to do again to u.s. elections now despite this the top diplomats from both countries met today to talk about expanding on everything quote that we have in common tonight the diplomacy of double speak and finding the function in dysfunction i'm bringing off in berlin this is the day. we're looking for iran to be of like a normal country we we fundamentally do not see a war with iran. the solution i hope karim is
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a plan deployment of 120000 u.s. soldiers to the middle east faceless before true masoud to go ideally if american interests are attacked. we will bow certainly respond in appropriate fashion like reason will prevail as the interference in american elections is unacceptable mccomas that is until we have all of the facts on the table we cannot have a grown up discussion about this stuff you can see we have some disagreements on this issue. also coming up we'll take you down to the close set for the cannes film festival and opening night of horror comedy with jim jarmusch is the dead don't die this really awful day the worst thing i've ever stayed home is no holiday so why do you think. i'm thinkin zombies. to our
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viewers on p.b.s. in the united states and all around the world welcome we begin the day with the american versions of russia and iran today mike pump visited russia for the 1st time as u.s. secretary of state he spent 90 minutes in a meeting with a russian foreign minister sergey lavrov reportedly highlighting what the 2 countries have in common 90 minutes 9 minutes would have been more realistic despite u.s. president trumps refusal to criticize russian president putin and russian foreign policy the reality remains the u.s. and russia are at opposite ends and working for opposite outcomes in every geo political powder keg well that's the real russian picture what about iran a year ago the u.s. withdrew from the iran nuclear deal and perceived tensions and threats coming from tehran have done nothing but increase 8 combat group including the u.s.s. lincoln are now in the gulf just last week the pentagon reportedly presented
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a plan to send 120000 u.s. troops to the middle east if iranian actions make it necessary now these are preparations at least they sound like preparations for war and they increase the chances of a misstep suddenly morphing into a military conflict yet today might pump a 0 said the u.s. does not want war. we're looking for iran to be of like a normal country and that's our ask and we have applied pressure to the leadership of the islamic of republic of iran to achieve that we we fundamentally do not see a war with iran we're looking for the. regime to simply stop conducting assassination campaigns throughout europe to cease their support of hezbollah that threatens interests all across the middle east their support for the good pieces that are launching missiles. into areas where there are russians and americans traveling these missiles could easily kill
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a russian or an american. but we laid them out in some detail our position hasn't changed and the movement of troops that you described to lead to the part of the fence but we've also made clear to the iranians that if american interests are attacked. we will most certainly respond in an appropriate fashion. all right that was the u.s. secretary of state pump a is speaking there to talk about the situation russia the u.s. and iran i'm joined tonight by dalia k.s.u. is director of the center for middle east public policy at the rand corporation in santa monica california that's where she joins us from tonight's dahlia welcome to the day it's good to have you on the program today both pump aoe and the supreme leader of iran they both almost at the same time said we do not want a war with each other who's telling the truth there. well
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hopefully they both are i think i would be welcome they are saying at the escalation to the current rising tensions i think there are you know there's credible evidence to suggest that neither side would want war a war with iran would be incredibly costly but i think it's also important to remember what brought us to this point and the main trigger frankly was the u.s. withdrawal from the iran nuclear agreement which was a internationally accepted agreement that iran was compliant with so i think a lot of the friction that we've seen over the last year building up to this point on the one year anniversary really stems from that that you know lateral u.s. decision and fortunately unilateral is the operative word there vent brings us to something you wrote you coauthored a report 10 years ago recommendations for a new u.s. policy paradigm towards iran there were 2 points which caught my eye and i want to share those with our viewers you called for the u.s. to avoid unilateral measures that are not likely to generate broad international
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support and you recommended the u.s. should issue an ambiguous statements about u.s. interest and intentions in the region now dull you could send that paper to the trump white health's it's doubtful that anyone would read it but i mean these point to the 2 things which the trump administration is not doing. yeah well thank you for reminding me of that i'm glad that my recommendations to hold that absolutely i think will have a lateral support for any us policy is critical that's what we have undermined over the last couple years and most importantly is the message and what we want where are u.s. goals and i think that's what's really concerning while there is no doubt that iran gauges in many activities in the region that are concerning and destabilizing we need to be suggesting to the iranians what is the off ramp what kind of activity could we accept and make sure that they understand that we are not presenting the
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next central threat that we really do mean what we say more we say come to the negotiating table what does that mean and usually in negotiations all sides have to give something so i think the one of the main problems right now with us aussies is a lot of confusion there we want to better deal are we trying to get the iranians or are we trying to provoke more military conflict and crises and unfortunately we're not sure about this certainly our adversaries and even our allies where there's nothing an ambiguous about what we're seeing right now we've got the u.s.s. lincoln which is in the gulf we've got the new york times reporting that the pentagon presented a plan last week to send 820000 troops to the middle east if iran attacks u.s. troops or u.s. interests in the region i mean this sounds like the drumbeat of war. yeah but i think we need to be cautious here and take
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a stab and back and really evaluate the situation many of the u.s. forces in the region are there on a regular basis for turn purposes because of many activities the iranians are engaged in throughout the region whether it's yemen iraq syria and beyond so i think what's happening here is this administration is utilizing and capitalizing on those for its presence to send messages to iran in this more confrontational approach we've seen develop that does not mean unfortunately there could be inadvertent acts as elation because our forces are so close but that does not mean there is intention to go to war president trappist said many times he is not interested in a military escalation or intervention in the middle east but it is worrying and i think the most or and art is that we have also taken actions in the past few weeks including naming the i.r.g.c. of the iranian military are a. organization so i think a lot of the potentially provide responses we're seeing from the iranians were
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predicted and could be expected and the iranians are not likely to continue strategic patience indefinitely yeah i mean it is amazing that they have gone for the past year being as patient as they have nukes and with the u.s. out of the iran nuclear deal what about europe and its role in this crisis iran wants the european union to basically salvage the iran nuclear deal do you see the e.u. the european union being able to do what the e.u. and the u.s. traditionally would do together. well that's certainly what the iranians are banking on i think their recent announcement that they were going to scale back some of their kermit commitments to the nuclear agreement were pretty measured and intended to send the message to europe they do want to save the deal all i think it was also intended to say is to send a message to the united states that our pressure our our policies of competition
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are not cost free and and there will be a price eventually i * am unfortunately i do think the european governments are genuine in their desire to save this agreement they put a lot of investment in it it was in 2nd negotiation involving many parties and so i think there's a genuine interest in salvaging it and i think the iranians are interested as well the dilemma is that as much as they might want to it's unlikely because of the extra territorial nature of the ascensions that the u.s. has imposed not just pulled out of the r d ourselves but we basically threaten anybody who continues trade with iran. that they will be punished by the united states so i think the dilemma is i'm not sure european companies are going to be able to give up the u.s. market in favor of the iranian market so that the real dilemma do you let me just get this in here before we run out of time we talk about opinions in tehran the 2020 alikes not there far off do you see tehran biting its tongue for the next 18
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months if it can i mean there's really no way that rouhani is going to agree to meet with the whole trouble do you agree. well i think there's a lot of power plays happening with into iran itself and i think many of us outside even those who follow it closely are not completely clear what's happening but no question i'm sure they are hoping for better days after 2020 but it's a long time between now and then given the kind of economic pressure the iranians are facing where the united states policy right now is trying to completely eliminate iranian oil exports and you know while china will likely continue trade they are really suffering losing what will likely be the european market maybe even india turkey and others so i think there's going to be a lot of pressure not to mention the domestic i'm dressed with any iran itself and a lot of uncertainty about whether the u.s. objective ultimately is to destabilize internal politics with any crime so i don't
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know if your audience are going to have the luxury of waiting until 2020 what you certainly do speak the truth of it is a long long way until november 2020 deluge doesn't directly add in for the middle east public policy at the rand corporation in santa monica california so we appreciate your time and your insights tonight thank you. thank you well the iran nuclear deal and the european union what can or what should europe to brian cook is a senior policy adviser to the u.s. secretary of state he was in brussels yesterday the w.'s makes off and spoke with her could begin by pointing out that glaring difference washington has ditched the iran nuclear deal europe is sticking with. that's no secret we disagree on the iran nuclear deal but everything outside of that when you look at all of the non nuclear threats the missile proliferation the missile testing the regional aggression the human rights abuses the arbitrary detention of dual nationals we are in full
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agreement we have the same threat assessment and so you have seen that over the last year in the time since we've left the deal europe has taken a series of actions to counter iranian aggression not only in europe but also in the middle east jeremy hunt the u.k. foreign minister it warned specifically warned the us might that they might get something they didn't ask for if they continue with the troop buildup in the region for example obviously europe has a stake in a very peaceful and stable middle east iran has been threatening to conduct attacks so we have put in place defensive measures we are not looking for a war if there is any kinetic action that is going to be started by the iranian regime and that's the message that secretary conveyed yesterday what did you agree on monday your secretary of state and the european foreign ministers are you going to go it together the next months and if yes how well look yesterday you had
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a norwegian oil tanker that was attacked. and so we also had 2 saudi oil tankers and an emirate e to maker and so so far we're not sure exactly the cause of that but we did have 4 explosions just a couple of days ago in the gulf and this is very concerning that should be concerning to europe when a norwegian oil tanker is attacked off the coast of fujairah right but what's the strategy going for that is he has to share intelligence and the secretary shared intelligence yesterday to sort of go with them behind the intelligence so that they can see in detail the kind of things that we're seeing and to understand why we repositioned our military assets the way we did he also made a rule that the europeans understand yes they do understand that we also made a request to european countries to use their influence with the iranian regime to explain that threats and nuclear blackmail is no way to win friends and they need to be iran needs to be more about talks than threats are you still counting on
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europe in the region also militarily well of course we count on europe europe is a big stakeholder in the middle east also militarily well europe has military assets in europe i mean in the middle east and so they're a stakeholder it's in their interests in our interests that we have a peaceful and stable middle east the problem we have now is that it's hard to imagine a peaceful middle east without a peaceful iran so we are asking iran to behave more like a normal nation and less like a revolutionary cause thank you very much ok. well if you use whatsapp and have it on your smartphone you should listen what's app says it has discovered a vulnerability that allows remote spyware to be installed on mobile devices a british newspaper reporting that the rogue software was developed by the israeli security firm n.s.o. group whatsapp says the attack may have targeted individuals working for human rights organisations it is urging its 1500000000 users to install the latest update
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as a precaution. talk about that i'm joined here by my colleague publisher ok so tell me about until we know is what's being infected well 1st and foremost you mentioned there and so is an israeli firm now it's one of the largest developers of surveillance technology and spyware now their clients are mainly governments and also surveillance agencies around the world and they've been known to sell their technology as well to author terry and states which has obviously meant that they have many critics around the world now they have they claim that what they do is when they sell their technology that they issue a warning saying that it should only be used technology to fight crime essentially . once it's sold of course they can really control what their clients are doing with this technology and some will say their most will say whoa call critics
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are quite well known and we're going to hear from one u.s. whistleblower edward snowden. the n.s.o. group in today's world based on the evidence we have they are the worst of the worst in selling these burglary tools that are being actively currently used to violate the human rights of dissidents opposition figures activists who was targeted we're talking about these people that he's talking about were everyone well this is part of it now what what this attack at the moment seems to have happened is that certain people have been targeted now in particular the way it kind of transpired was a few days ago a u.k. based lawyer who noticed he could potentially be having his phone hacked so what he did was he contacted a citizens group they looked into it and they said yeah correct it appears that this is happening and what happened was this u.k.
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based lawyer also happens to be involved in a lawsuit against n.s.o. the firm that we were just talking about before because he's working with a group of mexican journalists government critics and also a saudi arabian dissident who have brought a civil lawsuit against n.s.o. so basically this is how it all sort of came to light but apparently actually was stopped knew that something was up several weeks ago and what 70 the something the something was up this is seems like yet another case of a company owned by facebook that is dealing with a crisis am i right you're absolutely right it's not good publicity once again for wall stop or facebook in fact you know it has a lot of people asking themselves i mean you know i think a lot of us today even if you use what's up i'll use it every day and when i read this i thought well you know what exactly does this intel you have to download the update and so on but a lot of people also realize that what we're looking at on line they've been saying
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perhaps they need to move away from from what's perhaps other technology that's out there other applications that are out there which are perhaps safer and in. fact the whole idea behind what's up is that your messages are encrypted now we always hear this breath and what it means is that if i send you a message essentially imagine it like a closed document when you get the document you open it and that's the no one can see what it means facebook would have to guarantee that it's right crypted and we know that facebook has had problems with that guarantee exactly and i what's happened is that this technology that we're talking about appears to have been able to sort of get into that and you can open the document see what i mean you could get a phone call on whatsapp where the you would even know about it and that could infect your phone will updating the app. and what also we learn from this is that what soft says. this actually not what's up but it says that the software what happens is that extracts all the data that's already on the device text messages contacts
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your g.p.s. location be given listen to what you've been tracking words you name it they can access it it's pretty scary. that you people are going to be looking for a new texting after today or before the alias is always public thank you obesity with a place to rent. or they have rolled out the red carpet for the 72nd time in cannes france arguably the world's most famous and most recognized the cannes film festival got underway today this is the 72nd cannes film festival where someone who knows the festival very well although he is nowhere close to being 72 himself that is my colleague in the w.'s own film guru scott roxboro it's got joins me now from cannes good evening to you sky so the film festival is underway yet again what are you expecting this year.
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well actually expected quite a bit this year can been on a bit of a low of the last couple of years and they've come under a lot of competition from the venice film festival which had a lot of great oscar contenders last year giving roma so cannes had to up its game a bit and they've done so with a couple of a really impressive films there next week we're going to have quentin tarantino's new film once upon a time in hollywood that everybody wants to see i'm desperate to see and tonight we have the opening night film by an indie film legend jim jarmusch called the dead don't die sort of a 2 i don't know what call it a zombie film for the trump era definitely definitely worth catching. when you know you just mentioned but we're going to next kicking off the cannes film festival this year is a zombie comedy the dead don't die here's a sneak peek. peaceful. the quiet street. something terrifying. something horrifying.
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is coming. soon we were among. the dead don't die since an all star group of cops including bill murray. think and zombie hipster icons including he pop the living must band together to survive this is really awful it is the worst thing i've ever seen homeless no holiday so what do you think. i'm thinkin zombies why you know the young. ghoul's jim jarmusch is a classic american outsider filmmaker. he started making offbeat movies in the $1980.00 s. going against the period's bright colors and conspicuous consumption his stars were far from the mainstream and his films showed eccentric characters on odd missions often without a hollywood happy ending. it worked his taste in stories and casting as well as his
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dry wit and dared him to a generation of critics and viewers who were looking for something different. over the years and sharma's broaden his appeal and developed a stable of actors this includes adam driver who starred in his previous film patterson with about a bus driver who writes poetry like a shoe box and later you hear there was a 4th dimension. time. of the dead don't die takes viewers away from that day late world a return to the shadows for a director who's always seem to thrive in the dark. that she just so short you know she did shard and they got you just came from the premiere of that movie what you think. i really like i'm a huge huge fan of jim jarmusch films he's so iconic figure in independence in the cinema of this film is a lot goofier than
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a lot of his movies which i really liked it is quite in a way you could see it as a better for for for america under trump as sort of the apocalypse is coming but it's also done with a really light touch which i which i really enjoyed a lot of fun and as was mentioned it's just packed with stars i mean pretty well everyone who's cool in hollywood is in this movie top of course by the amazing bill murray. it's got you know you are a veteran reporter of this film festival you have seen how the film industry has changed over the decades what about the film festival in cannes and self is it still relevant today. well i think it is but i think cannas had a bit of a turning point i mean the biggest transformation in the film industry at the moment i think is obvious to anyone it's netflix it's the streaming services that are transforming the way we we see film and the way we consume it and that's that's
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that's really a seismic shift in the business of film and can hasn't kept up with that in fact can doesn't allow netflix to come and show its films and competition here they they banned them so they're sort of well behind the curve and i think they're going to have to figure out a way to move into the future that everyone knows is coming. and do so without losing what makes can great which is this this deep love of cinema and independent and new voices so far they haven't quite managed to make that balance i hope they find some solutions maybe maybe even this year all right scott ross perot in cannes france as always scott thank you very much. the day is almost gone the conversation continues online however you'll find us on twitter either at u.w. news or you can follow me at golf t.v. don't forget to use the hash tag of the day and remember whatever happens between now and then tomorrow is another day to see that.
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