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about stability about important issues but obviously the issue of climate change is in the moment the number one issue in germany what we have to do now is to tell the german people more what we are already doing in government but obviously the expectations are high that we have to do more and that's why the government will now have to quickly agree on important decisions in berlin with regard to the climate. if you could forge that campaign again if you had a time machine and you came back you know 3 months ago or something is would you tell your people we need to talk more about climate change this is heading in the wrong direction we have to talk about all issues including climate change but we also have to make it clear to the german public better than we did in this campaign that we have to bring economic issues together with climate change issues that we have to do the one thing without not doing the other thing both sides these are 2
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sides of the same coin of the same middle that's the one thing of the other thing what we have to learn in this campaign is obvious what happened in the last few days that we have to be better we have to improve reactions our answers to campaigning in social media this was obviously something which didn't really well in the last week but social misspeaking of social media a master of social media seems to be at least among us and in france which is the party of money look and formally known as the fall nasional and it appears according to the latest numbers that that message has won the european elections in france even ahead of them i call the french president's party. is this maybe a scenario for the future also in germany are the french just a step ahead of what's going to happen in germany. i sincerely hope about's not the case in germany i must say this result in francis. sad it's disappointing what
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we're seeing is the idea of european cooperation the idea of european unity is being challenged by radicals by populist by nationals from the far right and the far left what does this mean for us in the european bottom and we need a stable majority for the next 5 years we need a closer cooperation of the pro european constructive forces that's why we as a european peoples party are ready to negotiate with the social democrats with the liberals with the greens that we have a clear majority in this parliament against those political forces who want to destroy european cooperation and we have to take this challenge from the far right and seriously it doesn't look like though you're going to get that stability i mean where should it come from it's going to get harder to get a majority you know s. and these are the social democrats and the conservatives together won't have a majority most likely so how and and with which topics are you going to forge a majority you're talking about the pro european forces of the political center have lost votes we're going to lose the seats that means that we have to stick
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together the ethiopian the social democrats plus the liberals and the greens we are ready to reach out our hand to beas of a pro european constructive forces what we definitely don't need is a political majority in this european parliament which is dependent on radicals and demagogues from the far right of the far left so that means the center is beyond so and you see enough topics where you can really work together with all those political groups you just mentioned of course we have different political views but in a democracy it's always about finding a consensus and a compromise we are ready to form a corporation a kind of coalition but of course we need to discuss content we have to discuss the main challenges europe is facing in the next 5 years i have always said in this campaign you do should be bigger on big things and smaller on small things we need to deliver on security on border protection on the economy on climate change on the rule of. well there are many many issues and we are ready to discuss this with of
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a pro european constructive forces in this parliament david mcallister with me here from the european peoples party thank you for him very much for finding some time on this very emotional and very interesting evening here and with that back to you phil marks thanks for that much hoffman in brussels of the european parliament more from us across the across the evening so what we know so far in terms of an exit to polls and partial results c.d.u. in germany 28.6 percent of the greens a 2nd on $20.00 of the esprit de the c.d.u. coalition partners 15.3 percent disappointing result for them the last results that we had in the exit polls were from france where the peds national rally appears to have done very well let's join the lisa who is out with emmanuel mccall's all macho party in paris we'll get to reaction in just a sec lisa but to talk us through the rest of the figures if you have them.
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well there are different exit polls that have come out said they put the far right and national rally at teds we about $23.00 to $24.00 points and next comes at the one i saw speeches the alliance including a my about the president not cross party and our he ends at about $2222.00 is $23.00 and points and that is the green party which is a huge surprise the green party was supposed to come that before but it has actually won more than 12 percent of the vote which is quite astonishing in france . greens doing well in germany and in front of this stage and how the people at. emmanuel bankrolls up our headquarters how are they reacting surveys results. well when the 1st exit polls were published. a few minutes ago they were cheering and
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they were reading happy and the people i talked to before hand said well we came 2nd but we're still happy because we won more than 20 percent of the braves and it's our 1st according to exit polls obviously is our 1st european election this means at people confirm that they want is a government and also that their program in a way and also very happy about the high turnout which is estimated to be at about 52 percent that's 10 percent higher then only 5 years ago and they say this is a really good news for us because europe is part of a d.n.a. so we're really happy about this although we came 2nd. right with the far right. national rather than doing well but not as well as they've done before with 23.2 percent projection. absolutely the projections say that they will not reach the result from 5 years ago they still a came
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a greater probably come 1st as they did 5 years ago but they were hoping for a bigger way into shows that people are really with you and the support from from the president in the not all they have a program that is not saying we want to leave the european union or we're going to remove the euro but if it's a day or a euro skeptic actually when reading it you wonder how they want to do all these things by staying in the european union the best hoping for most import of that and to push their agenda on the european level. and paris for the i thank you so much. some partial results in from the from 2 countries germany and france of the stations like the greens are having a good night the national rather in france where they take 23.2 percent but as far as exit polls are concerned looks like being a good night for a marina in the pens. and as. far right populist parties across europe are expected . best strongest showing that ever in an election to the european parliament it is
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a political phenomenon that is being felt in nearly everywhere across the bloc in pinion polls ahead of the election. for this party's in 4 countries the u.k. poland hungary and its early were expected to take more than 30 percent of the votes in those countries plus several of those parties that are trying to forge a united front in europe. the cd come not to break you up but to remake it divided by language. meaning so late. night by popular is a pretty good shit once it ever exit memory is good it starts it can be right and a common enemy is an example junk of. their europe's far right leaders and together they are appending decades of e.u. rules and norms laying siege from within. the man
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hoping to lead best patchwork of populists it's a he's deputy prime minister macho salvini his hardline italy fast manifesto helped transform his friend's party and to government material and now he wants to do the same across the continent by ending together ideological bedfellows promising to tear up the rules. of our objective is to finally be a force for government and change your book to bring your blood new hope a dream. for. his closest ally is marine le pen in. the heyday of france's far right political dynasty she left him to campaign with her firebrand father nationalism runs and hard blood but now she's gone her own way. the french flag iraq for attacks on the elites the e.u. and emigration in the past she called for funds to leave the union but has since
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returned seeking in-state district back east power. so we don't longer want this european union that is spreading untried of globalization on europe globalization without regulation means having slaves manufacture to sell to the unemployed so. helping to banish the shackles of brussels is your end of the alternative for. many leading a party born in the chaos of the financial crisis but who found success talking about migration equal marriage and islamic extremism unlike the others they have threatened a day get a german exit from the e.u. if the bloc fails to change it. and we once were void damage will need to change of direction otherwise briggs's won't be the last exit. then there is viktor orban. hungary's proudly
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a liberal prime minister. case combat's of reputation recently and him the praise of a kindred spirit like me a little bit controversial but that's ok that's ok you've done a good job and you've kept your country safe in his years are gonna help tear down the iron curtain now he shows off the fences here wrecked it on europe's borders he and salvini have formed a friendship of late seeing themselves as manning europe's front lines. if you will mr selig any says that we need a new europe and i support his concept i share his view i too think that we need a new chapter. but the success of the populist insurgency may well come down to whether salvini can turn friendship into partnership. was noticeably absent when solving these populist gathered for a final rally in milan last week. the rain drenched crowd testament to the scale of
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the populist push back. the main attraction the man casting himself as europe's salvation at his back a rising tide of anger and resentment. the will of far right parties having a mixed night's surface hard during well in france not so much here in germany let's talk about this wave. it seems to be washing over your chief political correspondent in the crowd i'm a tell you i've got a valya who's a research associate at the center for international studies at oxford university welcome both let's start with those results from france at nights for the national rally but not as good as before it's not what they expected or what they were hoping for if you look at the results from the le pen they're down compared to the previous elections 5 years ago they were hoping to do better of course they will
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paint this as a victory as they are somewhere between one and 2 percentage points ahead of him and michael having said that. i would have liked to have been the 1st body in all this but rejoice in dead the greens have done extremely well and the greens in fromm's are very much a prove european party and so even if you look at the total of the electorate the result is a positive one for open progressive pro european forces and b. docs in the poem but as we just saw of that report going to be one of the countries where we're going to be looking for a far right insurgency if i can put it that way and this is this idea that's going to unites across the bloc and you see that happening i see them doing it certainly extremely well in italy that we were talking about 36 percent of the vote but you know even if they were to get a $33.00 person that will be the last one. the question will be to what extent
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they'll manage to put together a functioning a working alliance with european parliament they've tried before over the last 2 or 3 legislative periods right wing nationalist forces and always struggle to come up with coherent policies we've seen that actually would not in the pen her party's been embroiled in a position is all of let's say not being to transparent about money. also their record when it comes to managed to push forward legislation as being. really not such a structure in the least as so i you know the numbers might be good but maybe not all the way works but i think you see how in germany for instance if they go barely over 10 percent that is well below what they were hoping for it was picked up to put up with you melinda a disappointing result so far for their state yes in fact they had been hoping
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for something definitely over 12 i think it was it was understood that anything under 12 wouldn't satisfy their hopes and expectations there were even moments during the election campaign when they talked about maybe breaking the 20 mark and 20 percent so certainly didn't get anywhere near that party leaders were saying this evening well we think there's 2 reasons for this one was the distress of their friends in austria who basically crashed and burned when a video came out showing a meeting between a so-called russian oligarch apparently she wasn't one but and 2 members of that party in which they were essentially offering her influence over political decisions in return for support and money that seems to have been viewed as problematic for the german far right and right wing party as well but addition to that they said well bracks it apparently was a deterrent to voters who might otherwise have voted for the right wing
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nationalists here in germany because it's all looking too chaotic which of course is ironic given the fact that the german right wing nationalists have also flirted with the idea of a dex german exit using the d. for deutschland so yeah ok well we will come back to this subject as we get the results from its and especially in the u.k. and elsewhere but for now. melinda. got a volley thank you both thank you both yes good now we're just getting the 1st projected figures on the number of seats each party grouping is likely to have in the next european parliament so these are estimates in countries where polls are still open the final poll closes will be italy at 11 o'clock so the projections where voting has ended is in all of this and that all of the current and these are the current to groupings in the european parliament which don't include
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a possible new far right to group in the world is a strange and complicated place so let's take a look at the left european united left of the nordic green block look like taking 47 seats serve. the s. and diesel democrats like getting 147 seats in the greens 66 the liberal. group would get 79 seats on these projections in the center right european peoples party the biggest group like taking 174 seats and we have the euro skeptic conservatives there with 62 seats and then we have the populists the e.f.t. they get 56 and the and if 59 seats the remaining 61 seats award on these projections go to smaller parties. let's go through those figures with our brussels our bureau chief maxell hoffman whelk
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a match those these are the 1st figures.

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