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in poland today u.s. president trump announced warsaw will purchase at least 30 f. $35.00 fighter jets and $1000.00 more u.s. troops will be stationed in poland moved out of germany listening to trump describe it you'd think the decision is being made to reward the poles and to punish the germans is it. this is the day. while they're talking about 2000 troops but we'd be taking them out of germany or would be moving them from another location it would be no additional troops to europe and germany is not living up to what they're supposed to be doing with respect to nato and colleges have to congratulate you thank you very much we haven't we haven't finalized any that but the facility itself will be the world play well that's up to them i have nothing to do with naming it for the job that's
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all i need. also coming up tonight and frank would have been 90 years old today before she became one of the world's best known victims of the holocaust she was this man's babysitter. after school when i saw. the part. when she did come home she was. flown to our viewers on p.b.s. in the united states and over around the world welcome we begin the day with talk of building fort drum in poland now that is the name that poland's president has suggested for a new u.s. military base in his country but that name and the military base while they remain a suggestion tonight today polish president due to visited the white house and he
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and president trump they did confirm one major purchase poland is buying. 30 f. 35 fighter jets there we go a move intended to bolster poland and natives eastern european defenses trouble also confirm today that the u.s. will station a 1000 more troops in poland the polish government has been lobbying the top administration hard for the presence of more u.s. troops polish president due to even suggested a new u.s. base in his country be called fort drum the u.s. already rotates about $4500.00 troops into the eastern european country as part of the nato mission but poland would like to see that troop commitment increased and made permit it today's announcement will delight defense officials in warsaw and at nato headquarters in brussels calls for more u.s. military might in eastern europe have been growing ever since russia's annexation
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of crimea from ukraine back in 2014 as stated in the joint declaration the united states and poland continue to enhance their security cooperation poland will still provide. beijing and infrastructure to support military presence of about $1000.00 american troops the polish government will build these projects at no cost to the united states a polish government will pay for this means and. between are to states concluded to take to memorandums of understanding which we signed just a moment ago one of them i signed personally concerning the security and military operations as you mentioned sarah there will be more american troops in poland this is going to be an enhanced cooperation it's going to be an enduring presence weights hopefully will increase gradually in terms of the number of troops but also
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in terms of infrastructure which is very important so. are the one i'm joined by our washington bureau chief alexander phenomena she is standing by outside the white house good evening to you. so we are talking about at least a 1000 troops being restaged into poland is this the start of something bigger. well when you look at the numbers of 1000 additional u.s. troops in poland and you would say that it doesn't seem that it is a beginning of something something bigger there because this number is not likely to change the past posture in europe because this number it doesn't seem to be serving as a real deterrence for russia calling to military experts here however we have to say that this announcement could help the u.s. military to shorten its reaction times and also to improve its.
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possibilities to reinforce nature as is jim flank and it is of course enough to provoke russia to provoke russia to react to with the bill military build ups of its all new york poland border possibly with defense assets in belarus so at the moment we cannot really say what consequences this announcement today may have in the future. trump said today that he wanted to move these troops from germany to poland do you get the sense that trump is trying to punish germany. well i have to say this that as a german reporting here at the white house i could certainly say that i would understand this this way. that the u.s. is deploying additional troops to poland and that those troops would be coming
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possibly from germany or our countries at the same time he praise poland for spending a 2 percent of his g.d.p. on defense and went on criticizing germany for not spending enough then he praised poland for. buying the u.s. liquefied natural gas and criticized at the same time germany for relying too much for making a tremendous mistake to rely too much on natural gas and energy from russia so certainly it appears as a sort of punishment for germany but of course we cannot say for sure if that was what presidents trump really meant by making this announcement today all right for a moment outside the white house in washington alexander thank you. well i'm joined now from our washington bureau by barry senior vice president of the atlantic
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council and director of the scowcroft center for strategy and security very good to have you on the show i want to ask you how significant is this purchased by poland . what is it 3035 fighter jets. i think it's significant. poland will join the growing number of close advanced us security allies all over the world now but it is a it is the 5th generation aircraft and i think it is a it's a significant purchase it'll take a while for poland to you know which initial operational capability on it but i think it's important that the alliance have the nato alliance have this kind of advanced capability to deal with a growing set of russian capabilities and russian posture to. signal to russia it's has the effect of sending
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a signal but it's about real capability as is the other announcement that came out of the white house regarding increasing u.s. presence in poland it's all part of a growing trend that will see continue into the 20 twentieth's i think where we are in this new era as the u.s. government calls it the era of great power competition the defense department sees russia and china as the strategic competitors and the u.s. is working with its allies both in europe and asia to strengthen the posture to deal with these new challenges beary do you think that russia should. be getting the message i mean is it even listening. well it's an interesting dynamic i think in some ways this is putin's narrative that. you know nato and the u.s. and western europe is aggressive. buttresses
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a bit of the russian militaries justification for increasing its capabilities but this is a long term trend in russia putin has has a strong sense of grief mint with the united states in the west and ever since 2008 invasion of georgia invasion of ukraine and acts ation an invasion of crimea. the sea of curch last year this is going to continue where russia provokes and i think nato the us poland i think these are all concrete measures to make sure russia does not overstep so russia will get the message it will react it will magically no doubt and it will continue its military trajectory of increasing harassment provocation etc you saw the russian ship last week take a very dangerous maneuver in the pacific ocean with a u.s. navy ship so this is going to continue but russia needs to sort of have its
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boundaries established and i think having more u.s. forces in poland really helps to establish those boundaries firmly what did you make of the u.s. president's comments today about the troops being. will be stationed in germany. stationed in poland almost as if the move is intended to plunge germany is that how you read it. well i think it's plays into the present personal narrative that we've we've been hearing for a long time but i think i think he also said in the announcement said from germany and other locations but then when you step back and think about the historic context look during the cold war for a long time the nato alliance had forces stationed in germany right on the frontier since the cold war ended and nato and large them brought in a new allies that front here has moved in so poland's now on the frontier so i
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wouldn't take this as such a you know a personal attempted offense to germany this is history playing out where poland has chosen by its own sovereign will to join the nato alliance and it's now on the frontier so the frontier has moved and the party of democratic like minded allies has expanded i would take it more in that context than any personal issues or concerns about germany's defense spending but germany does need to increase its defense spending but this isn't i don't think this is necessarily part of that activity and you know the way you describe it to you i think a lot of people around the world watching today would have appreciated your explanation of that probably more so than the explanation that they heard from the u.s. president before we were in a time i want to ask you or ask if you agree with the u.s. president when he says that germany has has made it hostage to. the nord
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stream pipeline do you think that's true. i think there is there is a lot of sense of that and i mean we've seen russia use coercive energy measures in the past certainly over a few times over over recent years and so any sort of interdependencies that existed any your pain country that over relies on some russian capability be it energy or something else then you're going to leave yourself a little bit vulnerable just like some countries in asia we saw china react and when there was a deployment of a defense missile defense unit south korea china cut off all chinese tourism for a while shut down south korean stores in china this is how authoritarian governments react when something doesn't go their way and so i think the energy issue is very important for russia to i mean for europe to continue to diversify the energy sources and there are an increasing number of such sources and i think
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it would be in germany's interest to try to diversify as much as possible berry puddled the senior vice president of the flynn director of the scowcroft center for strategy and security joining us tonight from one she did very we appreciate your insights tonight thank you. tens of thousands of people in. hong kong's controversial extradition build today they blocked key roads and stormed the parliament the demonstrators oppose a government plan to allow extraditions to china legislators have no post poll and a debate on the bill. well that march was relatively quiet until tempers flared police used tear gas and rubber bullets to disperse the crowds today you know the demonstrators they oppose that government plan to allow extradition to china and the legislators as we said they've postponed
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debating that ball that well at least for now this is the most serious political violence since control of the territory was handed back to china more than 20 years ago not pressing ahead with the legislation will have an even worse. situation in terms of confidence and trust it was. the 7. i can only say that i'm very upset. will be given this late that i'm trying to call it was.
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the. it was but sometimes as a political diva you cannot shy away from difficult decisions. for more on what we're watching in hong kong i'm joined tonight for here at the big table by our reporter on swing the who is from hong kong and joining me tonight from the u.k. is steve song the director of the china institute at the school of oriental and african studies in london to both of you welcome i'm sorry let me start with you. are these protests are they really non violent and the chief executive who we just saw in that story there has she sold the country to beijing we have seen some footage is actually from violent clashes between the police and the
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protesters and we know that there had been there had been some kind of violence so we can really say that it has it has been violent however i spoke to someone who was in the protest today and he told me that most like at least in the group where he was like a lot of people were actually protesting very peacefully but then police fired tear gas without any warning all of a sudden and then fired at also fired rubber bullets so and they and he told me that it is and it was in no way and organized riot as described by kerry lamb and to answer your question whether she has become. to beijing well she insisted that she didn't receive any instruction from beijing and in an interview she even cried and said what she did was awful hong kong she
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said she really believes that this is going to be good for hong kong do you believe or. well i think a lot of people like i'm not the one to judge that but a lot of people just don't buy don't buy what she's saying they're genuine but your brother is in hong kong is he but this he believes or my brother doesn't believe it's because he and. many of the protest is a belief that. the government is not really listening to what the people like that they are not really listening to people's call and last sunday some people say that over 1000000 people actually came out on the streets and even after that the government even said that they are going to continue to fight that's why they're so angry you know that's a very good point no much of this criticism aimed at beijing is that china is not adhering to the handover agreement with the british from 1907 professor song in your book a modern history of hong kong you write about the british presence in
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hong kong and here's a quote from your book we want to share with our viewers you write it led to the rise of a people that remains quintessentially chinese and yet shares a way of life core values and an outlook that resembles at least as much if not more that of an average new yorker or london nerve rather than that of their compatriots in china i mean so what the hong kong are saying are more like folks in manhattan and they are like people in beijing maybe i mean it's this part of the problem that we're seeing in hong kong right now yes i see you actually. give a reason why people in hong kong may not eat enormous numbers last sunday one at the 2nd. call went out demonstrate on somebody was because they thought that english so on. and on mon and.
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would make them no longer a few say the home call so they had to go out and demonstrate. it's a little off in the middle. and that they have that right to do now but come 2047 when the agreement with britain when that agreement has run out there will be no more of this one state 2 system policy i'm so don't the people in hong kong shouldn't they realize that this cosmopolitan way of life that they have gotten used to it does have an expiration date doesn't it just have an expiration 3 expiry date yes i you actually writes their way and the agreement was signed in $98.00 it's people in hong kong as
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in pete people in the u.k. and many us off the website belief that opening and reform and on shouting will eventually recent internet magic changes in china movie in the directions to us and the translation. it was not enough and we still expect patient in the meat $980.00 s. but it seems to tenement mexico or not in the non it has become clear that china and commons fati will not move in that direction so now the religious right so professor let me just ask you before we run out of time what do you advise people in hong kong to do then i'll ask you that in all as i'm swaying that as well i mean is the only alternative to leave hong kong before 2047. yeah a nice to us writers and signed in sign
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a declaration as well as the basic rule call if they have to demonstrate they must do so very peacefully they responded on dislocations day to police you used all. but the meeting must state peaceful demonstration you want to get there ok i'm going to ask you have the last word do you do you agree with the professor or do they need to assert their rights that they still have. even to a certain rights that they have of course because ideas like democracy freedom of speech these are ideas that were introduced during the former british rule and these are concepts that aren't really traditional chinese values and cause like this violent they should am really assert this and. in terms of a professor mentioned something he mentioned that people should protest as peacefully and there are a lot of discussions fright now in hong kong whether they should go
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a peaceful way or whether they should go violence way and we will see in the coming day we will see you know it may it may seem like it's a long way off but the year 2047 will come faster than we think times when we here in the studio with me and professor steve song the director of the china institute at the school of oriental and african affairs in london to both of you thank you. well and frank is one of the best known victims of the holocaust and her name is still widely recognized today things to her diary or today would have been her 90th birthday to mark the occasion 40000 students here in germany took part in and frank day our reporter went to a school in the brandenburg region of northeastern germany and met one of the few people who still remember and for a personal. peter cornish knew and frank personally she
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babysat him when he was little their families were good friends. we played after school when i saw. the gardens the park. and he would pick me up from school. to do what she did she would come home she was and all the time. was launched on himself fled to america now he has come to germany just for and frank day which marks what would have been her 90th birthday and he has a message. don't be in the one and. be active and you have the power potential. well that was. we tween the election coming. to say well who are we
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were we going what do we doing for students at that one can school outside of our limits have gone through the diary of anne frank and they're impressed by her story . the muslims are nice kind of honest and for us when we read it especially since it's coming from a kid's point of view i mean she was my age it's just incredible it's terrible it's hard to imagine. custom conditions compression in over motherboards and just because you have different routes doesn't mean you're different as a person everyone can be good or bad it depends on the person and not on what culture or religion a person belongs to. for years the number of anti-semitic incidents has been rising in german schools history teacher bad lindemann wants to raise awareness of the issue although one can school has had few problems there have been anti semitic insults and graffiti here. but people often apply concepts such as using
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the word jew as an insult that are used in a completely on differentiated way and in an ignorant way. i think that by raising awareness people or the students get a feel for what anti-semitism even means and that is the aim of anne frank remembrance so that history does not repeat itself. all the day is almost the conversation continues online you'll find us on twitter either d.w. news or you can follow me a break t.v. use the hash tag the day every member whatever happens between now and then tomorrow is another day.
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