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make sure it does not and can not produce a nuclear weapon the confirmation came today from you with inspectors and from iran itself now this is a move that puts iran in the united states on a collision course that could end in war and it puts unprecedented pressure on europe to save the deal to define the us and at the same time to save the peace i'm bringing off in berlin this is the day. that iran has exceeded the 300 kilogram in reached iranian limits we would like to see the european union impose sanctions on iran on all allies share concerns when it comes through. the. stabilizing if he would just call it tough i don't know the europeans have failed to fulfill their promises self protecting iran's interests on to the deal but it does they will start to enrich uranium again we
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cannot let iran having nuclear weapons just give donald trump that's what he got out of it that he was going to give us a better deal. also coming up tonight to more people have died in sudan by demanding what would be a radical change in the country a government led by the people not by the soldiers punish these oppressors. we want to civilian government a civilian one. that. even though it's painful the will to achieve freedom will never escape us we will keep on until we have a civilian government. to our viewers on p.b.s. in the united states and all around the world welcome we begin the day with iran running out of patience and europe running out of options today the u.n. confirmed that iran has broken one of the. terms under the 2015 nuclear deal
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a deal that was designed to prevent iran from acquiring nuclear weapons iran also confirmed that move today but it left open the possibility of reversing course saying europe must do more to help the iranian economy withstand u.s. sanctions u.s. president donald trump has increased sanctions on iran since he withdrew from the nuclear deal one year ago or today's move by tehran puts europe and an almost impossible situation of trying to define the policies of its main ally the u.s. can europe create a financial infrastructure to bypass the superpower of the u.s. dollar in order to keep iran's economy and the nuclear deal alive well so far that answer is no iran seems to think that the answer could be not yet hala todd on not on a little while the europeans have failed to fulfill their promises of protecting iran's interests under the deal who to chart. actions by the europeans
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have not been enough so the islamic republic will move ahead with its plans as previously announced or in the process of our 1st phase of action on increasing our stockpile of enriched uranium as well as our heavy water reserves you know many of the. that was iran's foreign minister earlier today i want to talk now with our brussels correspondent teri schultz she's on the story for us from there this evening good evening to you terry has there been reaction from europe or the e.u. to the confirmation that iran is now violating the nuclear deal. yes there has been and you know brant the european union which of course was the mediator of the iran nuclear deal has wanted to wait until it got confirmation from the international atomic energy agency the i.a.e.a. that the threats iran has been making to start enriching uranium again were actually true today that that time ran out and in fact the i.a.e.a.
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said yes they have breached the limits allowed under the nuclear deal so the e.u. had to respond now what they're doing is remaining very calm and still talking about the sustainability of the deal they're asking iran to reverse course and they're noting very much in carrot and not stick mode at the moment that iran stayed compliant for 14 months after the united states pulled out of the deal and it says let's go back to that status now iran its very much trying to keep iran in the game not be alarmist at this point and hope that the levels of enriched uranium are still at a reversible level and just 3 days ago. you told that the trading mechanism which is just called instax that it is in place and it is working but iran appear really thinks it's not enough in that more can be done europe. europe has really been trying every option possible this mechanism you mentioned
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called instax it was never going to be the solution that iran wanted it's a trading sort of a barter mechanism working on credit lines so that money doesn't have to actually pass hands and thereby be subject to u.s. sanctions europe has also tried to protect its companies from sanctions threatened by the united states saying if the u.s. takes you to court for doing business in iran we will support you but none of that was enough no no company has enough business in iran to withstand u.s. sanctions they all looked at their at their you know bottom lines and said it is not worth it to stay in iran under threat of the united states so europe has certainly tried to put in place the mechanisms to protect iran but for example brant at the moment sanctions have reduced iran's oil exports to about 400000 barrels a day iran says it needs 1500000000 to break even its very deeply in debt and i
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can't see how europe can do enough can can do it have enough boost to the economic khana me to the to the economy of iran to really bring it back to an even level and tonight we're still talking about the e.u. europe as being in a position where it wants to save this deal and it wants to help iran when do we reach the place the that europe sees iran violating this deal and then says enough is enough we want to reimpose sanctions on iran. i think the e.u. has been very patient and will continue to be very patient on this deal it's not only because it very much worries that there isn't going to be any broader deal like the united states talks about that will take the nuclear components into account and again stop iran from from enriching uranium so it thinks that this is really the best shot possible to stop iran from possibly getting a nuclear weapon it isn't going to give up fairly imposing sanctions of course
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would mean admitting that the deal is dead and despite being offered to do this many times the e.u. is not willing to declare this deal dead it wants iran to reverse course you want to iran to reverse course with that teri schultz in brussels thank you we will check in with you on another story in just a moment or let's take this story now into the u.s. capital i'm joined tonight by injury miller he's with the project on middle east democracy that's a think tank and you worked at the u.s. state department served on the national security council helping develop u.s. policies in the middle east and you welcome to the program i want you to take a listen to how the iranian foreign minister how he is describing iran's decision which the u.n. says is a violation of the nuclear deal known as the j c p a way take a listen to that and then i want to get your reaction to come on that i've been informed that iran has crossed the 300 kilogram limit based on its plan we don't see this would occur and we said very clearly what we were going to do and we will
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act on it we see this is our right based on the joint comprehensive plan of action go ahead about john mccain you've got there's a reef there saying that the allows iran to do what it is now doing is he telling us that iran is technically not in violation of the deal. that's what he seems to be suggesting however any objective reading of the jew c.p.o. away would suggest that iran is clearly in contravention of the terms about an agreement what he is saying is actually harkening back to the original rania negotiating position when they 1st sat down with the united states the scotts the possibility of an agreement on its nuclear program in which they claimed that enrichment is a right and therefore no international agreement could a bridge and ultimately the obama administration succeeded in putting major limitations on to richmond that would ensure that iran couldn't develop
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a nuclear weapon in faster than one year's time which would provide the international community with space to respond should iran go the nuclear route but no i don't think of iraq in 4 minutes or a statement accurately reflects the contents of agreement and i think he knows that very well iran also said today that europe must do more to help the iranian economy withstand you was saying. is iran asking europe to do the impossible here to create an infrastructure that can bypass the u.s. dollar is it also just pushing as hard as it can to divide the u.s. in europe. i think this is clearly a stratagem on the iranian leadership part of both to get leverage over the europeans in the hope that they can find some way to soften the impact of u.s. sanctions on its economy but also as you said to draw
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a line and to create distance between the u.s. and its european allies in the hope that it would give it more leverage in any type of future international agreement it's very difficult to see how the europeans could do much more to address iranian economic concerns. standing up a separate international financial mechanism that would not have exposure to the u.s. economy and to u.s. sanctions is the undertaking of many months if not years and the cost of so doing would be quite substantial so it's difficult to see how the europeans can do much more than what they've already done in the form of this bartering mechanism known as instax and the drug administration says it wants new talks with iran it says maximum pressure policy will continue we know that iran has will not
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talk as long as there's a president trump today's confirmation of iran violating the deal that moves us even further from the possibility of talks with you would you agree. yes i think that's absolutely right at this time although from what we've seen president from prison incredibly mercurial incredibly capricious and he can flip his position on the on on a dime the real question is not in the united states because we've seen time and again that the u.s. position it's whether the iranian leadership would be prepared to reverse their opposition to speak with president trump and it remains to be seen whether the iranians refusal to sit down with the trump administration is just part of their negotiating tactic or whether it reflects a true opposition and a true lack of faith in the trumpet ministration if it's the latter and they're not prepared to discuss the issues in the nuclear agreement until
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a new administration than we have at least a year and a half of this uncertainty a year and a half of this specific climate and unfortunately we can't rule out the possibility of some type of klon from glacial or even in a full scale war it's deeply concerning i hope that the iranians would be prepared to parlay with the trumpet ministration should the trump administration. agreed to negotiate without preconditions but i can't necessarily blame them for not having faith that president from is going to be honest with them we've heard from the president of iran simply saying that they don't trust him because they see him as you said material and he'll change his mind with the when i said earlier in the program that iran in the u.s. are now on a collision course we do you see in the all friends here is the only way to stop a conflict. maybe a total freeze of activities on both sides the u.s.
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and iran would then be feasible. i don't i i think if the united states took unilateral action to relieve the economic pressure on iran iran would likely follow suit and reverse this recent development which is accumulating more than 300 kilograms of of enrich material i think sequencing a tit for tat in which the united states work to relieve those sanctions in exchange for a media degree iranian agreement to reverse its decision on the enrich material is unlikely for the very reason we just stated which is they're not in a position to negotiate and it's difficult to work through intermediaries so i think the best case scenario is that trump recognizes at some point that he is on a collision course if he doesn't change his path he's going to wind up in
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a war that he clearly doesn't want that he's made clear he doesn't want and that he takes unilateral measures to deescalate as he did recently when he called off the air strike on iran in response to activities in the persian gulf it's a thin reed on which to end one's hopes but it may be the best we have here. with the project on middle east democracy joining us tonight from washington into we appreciate your insights tonight thank you. but it would be fair to ask how can the european union make the impossible possible with iran when it cannot even make a decision on who should be in charge france and germany had reached an agreement on who should be the next european commission president but other e.u. members appear opposed to that now after a marathon 20 hour summit with no results talks were called all things and we understand they will resume tomorrow here's french president emanuel microland on
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these divisions. don't tell me he said well we ended the day with what we can call it because no results were found i think this is a very bad picture that we give of both the council and of europe so no one can be happy with what has just taken so many al was i think that this is an extremely serious problem that will have to settle in the long 10 i will come back to it. let's try to be back at it on tuesday we understand artless pullen our brussels correspondent gary schultz again terry this is definitely i guess you could say one of those mondays that the european union would like to quickly forget the iran crisis and now no decision on who gets the key jobs in the european union i mean what's happening here. well brant it can't all be blamed on a monday because they started it on sunday but yeah it definitely was a day that's nobody is proud of you heard president mcclellan calling it an
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embarrassment and the portuguese prime minister came out and said everything went wrong and we are very frustrated so basically this agreement that chancellor merkel and president thought might work when they were speaking on the margins of the g 20 in osaka came back and presented it to their counterparts and not so surprisingly everybody said no way are you 2 going to you know work out something and expect us all to just swallow it so basically no one agrees on who should be the president of the european commission it looked like timmermans the socialist candidate could get enough support but now the visa grant for countries the eastern european governments plus italy say that's completely unacceptable to them months of bever of course the candidate for the european people's party the largest political group says that he's not out yet and we can trace this back to the results of the european parliament where the largest 2 groups the center right and the center left lost their ability to simply push decisions through by having a majority between the 2 of them it is
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a huge mess and i'm not even sure that tomorrow they'll be able to work it out it doesn't seem like we there's a solution in sight anytime soon this is just music. the critics you say that the e.u. was too big and reliance too much on backroom deals instead of transparent democracy. well i don't think the euro skeptics are any ones to talk about transparent democracy but what's more worrying is when the europhiles like a menu mcmullen come out and say this is a disaster he also said until we can make agreements among 28 there is no way i'm going to agree to any expansion which of course if you're north macedonia and and albania you're listening very closely for comments like that so it wasn't just the countries that sometimes feel like they're sidelined and those led by people like viktor orban who like to criticize the e.u. all of the leaders were frustrated and that is a very bad sign there wasn't anybody coming out talking about unity they were all
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talking about what are we going to do and it's really not clear what they're going to do to do yet print but there's a serious timeline on this now because on wednesday the european parliament is going to pick its president whether or not the european commission president has been chosen and some candidates may be in line for one of those 2 jobs are we. doing double duty tonight as always thank you. pro-democracy activists in sudan say that they will stage a new campaign of nationwide civil disobedience in 2 weeks time this a day after at least 11 people were reportedly killed in clashes with security forces during protests yesterday tens of thousands flooded the streets of the capital khartoum demanding a transition to civilian rule it was the 1st mass rally since you dance ruling
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military council violently crackdown on demonstrators back on june 3rd yesterday's protests came on the day that the african union had set as a deadline for sudan's military to hand over power to seville. to talk more about what's going on in sudan i'm joined now by the sudanese activists and. he is based here in berlin i mean it's good to have you on the show appreciate you coming in to talk with this you support the protesters demands how confident are you that they can be achieved to mean what we're seeing security forces cracking down on the demonstrators the cut they've turned off the internet i mean where are you getting your optimism from this but this is where the time and since 1000 of december an office of a month said there on the street there were a lot of crackdowns instead of june the military the military council if tractor traumatized this movement by a backpack in this protest just killing more than 120 people and just a day set of june it was
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a declaration for the movement that we are still there and we are still fighting and they came out the street more than before that declaring that the leadership of this change that has had to be a change for a transitional. authority that given the country the democratic change the talks between military council and the protest leaders we know they broke down last month is trying to restart the negotiations is that the best way forward to meet. do you believe you can talk with the military or i think there's like most of us in these protests are united under the leadership of deterioration of freedom and change and the creation of freedom and change they have stayed very clearly that they need the investigation committee that supported by international community to do this to get into crime what happened said in june and then there was a mediation from that u.p.i. which is actually accepted by the duration a freedom agenda to rejected by transition military council but after after yesterday obviously have changed because this is was very clear that sudanese have
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their voice this street again and then that we will not rest until this transition happens which is very clear and very pressure for the for the transition military council and they have to accept or just need to continue to a more more conflict that they cannot control it anymore but the spirit of the civil society and the people are not are not under the will of tradition that your council your among those outside of sudan in your calling attention to the pro-choice movement what is the message that you would like to send to the governments or international bodies outside of your home country about what's going on. there a nation for civilian government democratic agenda is a very basic you basic human demands for political change and on and i think international community they have to fulfill their duties by supporting this change and not intervening in a negative way that the world over to to produce more dictatorship or military dictatorship so that is actually to produce democratic country they need to support civilian transition to getting the support from the african union for example but
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europe the un are you getting what you need african union standing up in a very good position they are supporting the change for transition for the for the civil authority and that actually goes a back bay there have been a bag by the americans but until when this would continue that which actually did this these protesters are not truly confident was it so they need change to happen fast because also there's an internet interest for. stabilization of the country but also there's internists interest for the for the from the point this doesn't have a civilian government and this is the old new way that determined the sudanese future relationship is international community all rights under the sun we appreciate you coming in sharing your stories with this hopefully next time we talk we can talk about progress thank you and. there are many unanswered questions concerning europe's migration policies today inside an italian courtroom this was the question posed should rescuing people at
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sea be a crime well the answer could determine the fate of a captain named captain she was captain of the sea watch 3 which was carrying 40 migrants rescued from the mediterranean when it entered the port of produce over the weekend without permission and then hit a police speedboat now if convicted the 31 year old captain faces up to 10 years in prison. this was the scene in front of the italian embassy in berlin on monday crowds gathered in support of. the captain in custody and to protest against the italian in terry a minister much more. than the team is doubling down on his stance against refugees and against private rescue operations. that. if she is a criminal on the criminal. if he criminalize those who rescue other people or
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fight for humanitarian causes well then i'm a criminal to him in all these years yet because she wanted to be. over the weekend german foreign minister made his opposition to the captain's arrest clear he said he would continue to push for her release and negotiations with this italian counterparts. is kind of stuff rescuing people at sea is not a criminal offense it's a humanitarian act sets why i think. ultimately anything other than a release will only lead to considerable irritation drivers to heap the shit it's not sort of fall. by midday monday private advocacy groups had managed to raise some 750000 euros for the captain that amount has now topped well over a 1000000. it's money cowboy left i can't say will need to cover her legal expenses to migrant she rescued will be resettled and a number of e.u. countries it's the 9th time germany has joined what people are calling
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a coalition of the willing something fun from a long term solution. well they is almost done but the conversation continues online go find us on twitter either at w news where you can follow me at work off t.v. don't forget to use the hash tag the day will leave you tonight with the wintry results of a hailstorm from mexico in the middle of summer and remember whatever happens between now and then to morrow is another day we'll see that.
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