take part and send us your story we are trying. to understand with your culture. another visitor another guest you want to become a citizen. in for migrants your platform for a while information. we've come to northern chile and the port city of. ts kutch from germany is here for the 1st time he's on a special mission one of his former teachers a priest is said to live here cut she was abused by him as a child. it's a bit of a remote location i hadn't expected that often through. my

team was abused by 2 teachers while at the comedians colleague a jesuit high school in berlin for legal reasons we can only identify his abusers as peter r. and s. . over a period of decades the 2 priests abused many children their superiors ensured that everything was hushed up. in 2010 finally blew the whistle on the perpetrators since then both men have been seen in chile. he asks if any germans are living here . a man pointed to a nearby street of the investigation stalled mathias kutch is taking matters into his own hands why does he feel he has to do this. through else is going to do it because churches during nothing really feel that i feel a certain sense of responsibility to warn people here in this that's what would harm.

his quest to track down his abusers began in january 28th in santiago de chile at the time the city with full because pope francis was in town while crowds celebrated the head of the catholic church. and nursed his anger against the institution. back in 2010 he was instrumental in uncovering abuse in germany's catholic church by going public with what he had suffered. his actions in power dozens more abuse survivors to come forward but none of the cases was recent enough to prosecute the 2 priests. in 2015 the german broadcaster w d r reported on are for the 1st time its research showed that the priest had abused a female student in recent years and the diocese of hilda's time in 2010 she reported

the crime herself to the diocese but the bishop in charge simply sent her home he did not inform her family or report the case to the authorities pay to our escape punishment how could that happen. the day after that report was broadcast here this time bishop's hind's good to bomb guards and norbert teller give a hastily scheduled press conference. it was bangarra to a talk to the female student when she tried to report her case back in 2010 so why did he send her away. that's making one of my african look after repeated questioning she said very clearly that he had given her a kiss on the cheek and that during previous visits he had given her hugs which she didn't like. either of money.

odd it was very clear to me in this situation that what was being described to me was not a sexual assault we used car and therefore i couldn't classify it as sexual abuse oh for munich. i used to feel. so good. but by that time it was already known that this priest was at the center of the abuse scandal at the commuter school it. didn't sound alarm bells for you make you think there might be more to this. sound alarm bells so signs of affection migraines on the cheek all that kind of going are pretty normal among young people today. listen 1st. before long the government commissioner for the sexual abuse of children you hunnish will have like took on the case. he called on the diocese to appoint an

independent expert to thoroughly investigate the case of paper are kept and i'm told by have the impression that there is still a tendency to try to protect the institution why withholding information and not laying the facts on the table and that is preventing transparency that as a transparent for him that. the diocese gave in and in the fall of 2017 the report was published but putting out a public appeal the investigation uncovered dozens more victims of peta are from youth groups a kindergarden and even from far away. but the expert in charge of the investigation pitta masa found all the cases had expired under the statute of limitations man comes from the judging by the pattern we see here and it's very probable that this is only the tip of the iceberg we can see a pattern in the church of looking the other way and being unwilling to recognize the full scale of the problem then i'm going snow's most watson in bitter from

gunsmiths know my apologize with all my heart that i didn't recognize the perpetrators strategies back then and that i wasn't able to draw the right conclusions to protect the children. if a blood. guards then tendered his resignation but it was rejected by his superiors so what next would he look for more victims of pay to our himself would he look into the links with chile or seek to find out what paper i was doing today. months passed without any action in the end it was another who felt obligated to take up the cause mathias kutch. he was shocked to hear of the abuse cases in chile and he had a good idea of where he might find them. the fund that. is one of the largest charitable organizations in south america with projects in peru and bolivia

. himself spent a year working here as a volunteer when he was 18 he's returned frequently and knows lots of people here. there were yeah yeah i was. given looks after children and provides them with an education. many young people in chile find it hard to get work or job training here they can find both they can train as painters brick layers or office administrators. but let us cut has come to see the woman behind it all. that will got that worker sister lena. she's a german missionary who has spent 50 years working in she's won numerous awards for her work and has twice received the german federal cross of merit. over the past

decade 5000000 euros in private donations alone have flowed from germany to sister catalina and. 1st met her when he was a high school student at the. ringback court for her project. was one of the teachers. adult friends. mainly with young boys. and gifts like record players or cameras.

out of the school dubbed the castle during his group exercises the boys would struggle with their feelings afterwards they would spend the night at the castle with the priest showed them magazines. questionnaires asking them how. they had to go into his room. ask them about their dreams and urged them to masturbate in his room. time that came to germany she talked about. the boys. she developed a friendship with. supporting her. to

come to germany and. numerous young people. spent time living with in germany. what does she think about that now knowing what she. and is there still a link between the priest and her organization. kenneth said peter i know you do a very well. you came to chile to visit us one time. when you 1st and i could never have imagined that things like that could have happened to him in but he certainly tried to be a good person through his efforts to help many many people feel if you can ensure i witnessed that myself had a full. time office and i and i feel for he even used his own pension to pay for a child to be able to study. for young person a man

a woman people who just went to him with their needs. is why is does. i know from the time that i was at school that he would give the gift to the boys that he was off to the shrink a block. or so obviously when i hear that he's been trying to be generous here when they get immediately around there's my suspicions that his generosity was all aimed at being able to pursue his last assignment i wish and i knock in so could i thought i couldn't say that kind of a you none of the young people that i know and i knew the moment none of them could say that they became a victim at the front of all those who were there from the north or south some from bolivia to no one said anything at all cause i don't have a single one it is the only one who was he's still sending money. yeah he sends money or lives with our 2 or 3 young women that he got you know here and made an effort to help them much he still sends money for them that had. divided to him.

i have to go. yes and yeah and this comes out of this is my heart goes out to more and more of the people who have suffered. that is our top priority and. that you think it. does as he says for me as a doesn't make sense to me to be honest this is exactly the problem if you're too close to the perpetrator it's incredibly difficult to distance yourself from them and make a clean break to come down entirely on the side of the victim. it won't be his last conversation with sister catalina but 1st he wants to find the

people who went from here to stay with petra are in germany. 2 of them were mentioned in the report on the hill. from now on. to film with a hidden camera. in an outlying district at santiago he begins to ask around. what exactly did pay to our do after leaving. he was forced to leave the school in 1901 after his students wrote a complaint. they said his youth work was merely a facade and that in reality he was trying to control and influence their sexuality . but instead of going to the police his superiors in the church simply transferred him. first to the city of getting and they informed no one there about what he'd been doing and so once again paid to our was working with children he abused

a 9 year old an 11 year old and a 14 year old the church dealt with the matter internally and transferred him again this time to heal this time it was now 1989 here are was appointed priest at a local church where he helped provide meals to the needy. it was during this time that he began inviting young people from chile to stay with him a number of girls spent several months at his house helping with household duties in 19031 mother from here that she believed the priest was harassing them. she said the girls had told her he kept touching their breasts finally 4 years later transferred to work. 2 years after that he was moved from there to hanover. since 2003 he's been retired and living in. lynn.

is hoping to speak to some of the women from chile who stayed with peta are one young woman agrees to meet him she's a new contact her name was not mentioned in the german investigation she spent a whole year living with pay to r. in hanover and her sister also stayed with him and had to sign she is mentioned in the head to some report but no one's been in contact with her. the family is part of sister parish. but when i was 12 or 13. you know aga he came to chile to visit carolina. and twice he took my sister to carolina's house. she said he had touched her breasts. when he did it for a 2nd time that i witnessed it myself. just.

limit they remember how worried my sister was about visiting him in germany if she didn't want to go to the news or when you went to germany was your sister worried so you know yes she didn't want me to go to hanover because she knew i'd be alone with him. but i decided to go because i wanted to learn the language. i didn't want to stay with them but i wanted to learn nobody. in the open this. right from the start he took away the key to my room. so i pushed the sofa and the door but i was still afraid because i was alone and i knew what he was like. the only. way that he rented an apartment and berlin. i didn't like going there because i had to sleep in the same room as him. but one time i woke up in the night and heard him making strange sounds in his bed he was

masturbating. so i didn't want to go back to berlin after that and when i did. one of the chairs and my suitcase around my bed so that i would hear him if he approached me in the night. coming up. today the priest is 77 and still living in that berlin apartment. there that he abused the young girl from he reported her case to church authorities in 2010. that was the year the general public in germany heard about peta are because more than 40 other. students went public in the church. all the cases had expired under the statute of limitations and it neglected to mention the young woman who had reported her case that same year nevertheless the abuse scandal made international news and reached to.

suddenly i was in the newspaper and i read that he had abused many children. i told my brothers and sisters about it although not my parents as they knew nothing of what had happened. and right at that time when the news came out. he suddenly turned up here at our house to tell my parents anything about the scandal he just said he'd come for a holiday. and my brothers and sisters came and we demanded a meeting with carolina. force him to leave my house and to tell my parents was happening. just said the media reports all kinds of things and acted like he done nothing wrong at all. and sister carolyn a defended him. then my brother told him to leave our house to carolyn i took him with her but he's

gone on you since last time. yes. i keep telling myself he should pay with a life sentence for what he's done. that no one should suffer the way people suffered under him. simply should be sent to prison to pay didn't you so my guess is so i guess he knows what he's done. is so you know what i don't understand is that he talked about god and being a catholic but then did such evil thing was yes it is evil now he needs to pay i think about that time it sorta. at the end the young woman shows us a photo of her with good friends of peta are in here this time because no one stopped the priest the young girl next to her was also abused by him. that was the student who reported her case to the hideous crime bishops in 2010.

most against a 3rd came from have to fight back tears the whole time because each isn't. about this dish it was the right thing to do which is what i did was right. just would be painful to talk about it but there comes a point when you have to lay everything out on the table and then it's enough and. now i'm going to focus on it from morning till night but you just need to have it all out as once and say this is what happened he's responsible and they looked the other way or cooperated or later covered it up. come on and then you can slowly start to close the box and say that sits with all and then you can get on with your life and don't come up either you.

during our previous conversation sister catalina claimed she knew nothing of any abuse cases in cheating now we've heard a different story evidently sister even took the priest into her home in 2010 at the height of the abuse scandal so what's the truth. wendy i know if they had said anything that our daughters had problems i would have confronted later and center home. but you did not do that in 2010 so you didn't send him home to give my house was a question i couldn't because i didn't know anything they said nothing that you knew from the press need for not really girls but in general. to find out but i say from the press and women but i can't condemn someone based on accusations in the press. i knew pater liked to have hugs and kisses adamantly and crystal and gave and kisses him self which was a bit unusual death is done and at last but

a kiss here a kiss there. i'm christian man and i can't tell you anything i didn't see anything or know anything critical there be more abuse survivors who haven't said anything i think when i asked various ones i got no answer i know what that's like it's not possible at all it's get do you want for auntie there are some younger many are known to have someone touches them in the wrong way they give them a slab plus and that's it a blessed guy have to die if they touch their breasts or thought and close when they try to kiss their ass munch on. the months it of course sometimes it's problematic because sometimes with a person going to start to cooperate and go along with it the and it got i thought and made an undead vestment teach them about him then later they think that he crossed a boundary i thought he had me and then they start to feel partly guilty for it

seems that they let it happen much whitty that's except that they allowed the other person to do what he did and for. a game i said we specially i understand the 2 girls had a terrible time in germany. is this made any guess what them doesn't that are partly their own responsibility and interest but shouldn't one sister warn the other and say don't do it which is terrible for maid likely so it's the family's responsibility. or sense the family's responsibility the throne and how are outsiders supposed to know that in the morning dental and then the man pays for your studies afterward what is given you carry on accepting the money for that happens oh maybe they were afraid because peter paid the money through us visa basically had gotten their money here and the office desk 8 or does and that's probably doubly difficult because you accused the man it was at the same time sending your money that month and then. unclasp. so as soon as i get the chance i

won't talk to the 2 of them and i won't come with any i.q. satiates and forward i'll just say how sorry i am that they didn't have enough trust to say something back again i think the thought that one had no element of us was that they would have helped me a great deal or that they had said something ok maybe i could have helped a greater effort i really think i could have done with had it if i'd have known i could have intervened. couldn't you have helped the girls to have a relief of yes of course as far as you can hellhound have all kind of hit it but what's done is done i wouldn't know how to help the families have to word 5000000 i really wouldn't this dish nish does this worry you know saw them and they think him but it hurts me that they didn't trust me enough to say anything it would be this this is nick that's my this but only. because this was a gift they could have given me one from me to trust me and they knew me. that

steam never the lessons in life we live forwards on and i want to include others and to move on do have a little game on and it would really be mine desire for the 2 of them that they can get free of this religious act and i'm ready to talk to you with all the love that i'm capable of god's help all right that's my hope for both of them and the thing that we would be able to talk in.

english to get she wants to believe wish that and i can understand that that her colleagues and friends are innocent of these things we surely think in the in the in the. aunt alice also she'd rather focus on and believe everything that appears to speak for them than to just believe the simple statements of the victims he simply also helpful well so she relativize it plays down to 6 excuses or explanations like levels of fin. obviously it's a bitter experience for me even that it's nothing new in fact it was a recurring pattern at least i thought out of most not a little bit recently i now have my doubts as regards the safety of the children and young people here today in god by the got my home very much that is the better realize asian. which is based also for all the friends of sister carolyn and her world in all the other than that it will provoke a response that says. this month how can we prevent this kind of suffering from occurring again. in the institution is an initiative service foundation. and how

can we distance ourselves clearly from these perpetrators and the cost on stuff i got and i just don't see. the abusive priest had access to children and young people for more than 40 years he was unwilling to speak to us on camera but back in 2015 he did agree to be interviewed at his berlin apartment. he said he only asked the conies year students to masturbate in his room so that he wouldn't have to report them to the school director. as for the girls he said he never gave them anything more than a kiss on the cheek. from his point of view he has no criminal. meanwhile . is not over yet now he's arrived in northern chile.

has been here before too. visited the other implicated priest from germany in s. he said to be living in today. the 2 of them 1st met his high school students in the 1950 s. then in the seventy's they worked as teachers at the berlin. it was here that they met sister. but there's something else that peta are and yes have in common a large group of former students say they were abused by both teachers while at the conies use colleague and mathias kutch is one of them. stripped the children naked and beat them for hours after his deeds came to light he too was transferred 1st of all to hamburg.

after abusing children. he was transferred. to the church. that. the priest and confessed his crimes to the church. added that he had more opportunities to. the church his superiors kept everything to them they didn't want anyone in. the church kept silent about all the crimes. continued to work for the catholic.

or. is one of the most successful sports clubs in athletes from here have even made it to the olympics. now the coach at the club heard about the 2010 scandal surrounding. so how does the coach see the club founder today. in germany there were accusations against him but all i can say is the only thing he left behind. was a great sense of. there are many people here who to this day continue to speak about him with affection. nothing like that happened. he didn't do anything like that. and we didn't see anything else. he worked and that was. my question is.

if these documents exist in north exactly zation why some in person. but my ts kutch speaks with a woman on the phone who has a very different view. all all along my field. she met both vulcan s. and pay to are at what the moon does. they were known as part of a voice she and part of a pedro. she went to stay with peter are in here this time but is she willing to talk to mathias kutch about it but for a last ace. on and it was at 6 o'clock here. that's good very good. by evening our contact had changed her mind she didn't want to speak in a public place but rather at home in her own apartment she too has heard nothing from here this time she's received no compensation or offer of counseling.

can you tell us how you got to know better than us the pay to holland or free appear to. be king here but when i was little i went to tours among those together with my family because it was linked to the church. he wanted me from media until 2nd year b.c. . then valving came to visit us and we really trusted him with a new motor confidence that we felt very privileged to be close to a priest for good governor. again number 2 we're going to syria. we got to know petra while he was here on holiday going to be offered my sister and me the opportunity to come to germany for learning purposes. he felt that we were intelligent somehow. and that we could achieve more and have great opportunities. here in a remote and had you experienced anything with alfie at that time wealthy commuter . there was

a very disturbing situation with my sister at. first he left it up. yes and then he had her more than once on her. and she felt terrible she says she's never been able to wear a skirt again to this day smacking was something he always did to the boys at the club not the girls of the bus that is very rare. for pussy look in look at how come you've never spoken about this in all these years. because it's shameful. but there was something else she struggled with too in here this time they were appeals for donations to sister kathy and christopher living peter are used photos of his young guests from chilling to raise funds for the foundation. ilithyia moved up the numbers for. it was terrible to see the photos of myself

where on dirty ragged things. because it obviously provoked an emotional response causing people to want to help laughing i must hear now right he said i pretend that really are you. and that's tough for a child but they might help it wasn't the padre we knew from chile where we thought he's helping us out whether that means fallen terribly i hope or so you said that when you 1st got to know pettily bitter some way happened that should never have happened but the video will pass all. i've yeah it was something that immediately bothered me c. and that was his hocks 7 s. . he would have been under the arms but he put his hands. he put his hands on my mind knowing me and my breast. in effect. has

this affected your life. see yes you're going to see and when i sense that someone is attracted to me sexually i just freeze completely. it's like something that's beyond my control. because my body feels a livable and i seem to go into a state of shock. that my you have a look at your borman ahead of look at me it's really difficult to get psychological help here in chile this would be it's complicated because it's very expensive. to do normally number that your name was mentioned in the hilda's time reporter along with a number of others and. to this day no one's trying to contact you as part of the investigation. in history is to go still someone like a muslim and well that he knows where south americans. what does it matter if it's

one child more or less from here you here when i heard about it i thought of course the others are german children people are more likely to listen to them. the ones from sarah maybe not so important here it's the parents responsibility. they're the ones who sent us there. ok and then suddenly an earthquake puts an end to our conversation with. god. has not yet finished and. he now knows that both his former teachers were responsible for bringing young people from here to germany but what he doesn't yet know for sure is whether s.

who is now 73 years old is still living here today and if so what he's doing. he goes to the santa cruz church where the former jesuit priest used to be in chart he wants to meet with his successor and warn him and he wants to speak to me alone. the 2 of them talk for 3 hours mathias catch tells the priest about his own experience and as used to strip him naked and beat him for hours he talks about his other classmates and how the scandal came out in 2010. he speaks about the abuse survivors here and. the priest said he had no idea of the scale of the problem he says he'll appeal for others in this parish to come forward with what they know and he gives mathias kutch. current address. it seems to be the case here and that everyone here heard about the abuse scandal in 2010 really believes it was just slander and that nothing actually happened.

over as abuse mentioned just a bad people in germany who came up with an idea to harm. and so they just dismissed it but they say he's still here and still in contact with the church members that are involved in the running club. and. overall though he's said to live quite or so. limited light and maybe as it's all kids who no longer makes public appearances in the way that he used to when he 1st showed up here theaters on funky math but that's a that's a off the top this comes about i thought about going to see his. yard knock a doctor yes i thought about is that he thought to be honest i don't want that kind of confrontation the whole thing would take a psychological town. other people always want that kind of thing some kind of reconciliation or whatever but that's not me me this is the i don't think that's important we talk far too much about the perpetrators or not enough about the

victims really for them. in september 28th the german bishops conference published a new study on child abuse in the catholic church in germany. it found at least $3600.00 children fall victim to abuse between 19462014. cardinal i know hard mocks apologized to those who suffered abuse. if you're british i feel ashamed when i see how so many just look the other way who didn't want to accept what was happening and played it down. who didn't want to see or hear and i include myself in that we didn't listen enough to the victims of this cannot remain without consequences of those who have suffered have a right to justice. but. the vatican itself has since held its 1st time in tackling the global problem of sexual abuse by catholic clergy but what

about the diocese of his time auxiliary bishop hines good to bogart wasn't willing to speak on camera he wrote to us that despite what he called intensive research by the vatican embassy in chile it had not been possible to make contact with any abuse survivors there. but he said the hideous crime cases were. be included in an internal church tribunals looking into the case against paper are the maximum punishment would be dismissal from the priesthood. my time in chile is coming to an end it's a final evening in the attic of. scotch has managed to find the young women named in the hill discovery forge and by talking to their sisters he's identified 2

more previously unknown victims of peter or he will now pass on their names to the hill this time diocese in the hope that they can receive compensation and professional help. it felt like the mission was over but then early the next morning had a change of heart about visiting both. is risky for $366.00 the red one and then. there was the business b.s. . you. don't know where looking for a german man. oh you. know if. you get his houses back there. was. the most i don't really need to go there i've seen it now i know where it is

and that's enough. i just wanted to know where he is and that's ok it's not about him being. found it's good and i feel good not relieved exactly lighter than before yes that life. after mathias kuch left we tried to speak to god as ourselves but he didn't answer the door.

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