we've come to north. from germany is here for the 1st time he's on a special mission one of his former teachers a priest is said to. cut she was abused by him as a child. it's a bit of a remote location. to go off and. was abused by 2 teachers while at the kidneys. and just about high school in berlin for legal reasons we can only identify his abusers as. period of decades the 2 priests abused many children their superiors ensured that everything was hushed up. in 2010 finally blew the whistle on the perpetrators since then both men have been seen in the. asks if any germans are living here.

a man pointed to a nearby street. but the investigation stalled mathias kutch is taking matters into his own hands and why does he feel he has to do this. not his words one through else is going to do it the good church is doing nothing to the food and i feel a certain sense of responsibility to people here that's a cool. quest to track down his abusers began in january 28. at the time the city was full because pope francis was in town while crowds celebrated the head of the catholic church. and nursed his anger against the institution. back in

2010 he was instrumental in uncovering abuse in germany's catholic church by going public with what he had suffered. his actions empower dozens more abuse survivors to come forward but none of the cases was recent enough to prosecute the 2 priests . in 2015 the german broadcaster w d r reported on our for the 1st time its research showed that the priest had abused a female student in recent years and the diocese of hilda's time in 2010 she reported the crime herself to the diocese but the bishop in charge simply sent her home he did not inform her family or report the case to the authorities pay to are a scape punishment how could that happen. the day after that report was broadcast here this time bishop's hinds good to bombard a normal tele give a hastily scheduled press conference. it was bombard to

a talk to the female student when she tried to report her case back in 2010 so why did he send her away. this week you heard of never home with after repeated questioning she said very clearly that he had given her a kiss on the cheek and that during previous visits he had given her hugs which she didn't like oh. they're going to. odd it was very clear to me in this situation that what was being described to me was not a sexual assault. it's kind therefore i couldn't classify it as sexual abuse oh for munich. i used to. be. but by that time it was already known that this priest was at the center of the abuse scandal at the conies your school it. didn't sound alarm bells for you make you think there might be more to this.

sound of home bells so signs of affection migraines on the cheek or that kind of thinking are pretty normal among young people today is this your 1st. before long the government commissioner for the sexual abuse of children your highness will have looked like took on the case. he called on the diocese to appoint an independent expert to thoroughly investigate the case of paper are kept in i'm told by have the impression that there is still a tendency to try to protect the institution why withholding information and not laying the facts on the table and that is preventing transparency as a transparency for him that. the diocese gave in and in the fall of 2017 the report was published by putting out a public appeal the investigation uncovered dozens more victims of peta are from

youth groups a kindergarten and even from far away. but the expert in charge of the investigation pit i'm also found all the cases had expired under the statute of limitations man comes from the law and judging by the pattern we see here it's very probable that this is only the tip of the iceberg we can see a pattern in the church of looking the other way and being unwilling to recognize the full scale of the problem and guns knows most about some. people from guns from here i apologize with all my heart that i didn't recognize the perpetrators strategies back then and that i wasn't able to draw the right conclusions to protect the children. if a blood. guards then tendered his resignation but it was rejected by his superiors so what next would he look for more victims of pay to our himself would he look into the links with chile or seek to find out what

petter are was doing today. months passed without any action in the end it was another who felt obligated to take up the cause mathias catch. he was shocked to hear of the abuse cases in chile and he had a good idea of where he might find them. the front. is one of the largest charitable organizations in south america with projects in peru and bolivia . let us cut himself spent a year working here as a volunteer when he was 18 he's returned frequently and knows lots of people here. yeah. looks after children and provides them with an education.

many young people in chile find it hard to get work or job training here they can find both they can train as painters brick layers or office administrators but lettuce cuts has come to see the woman behind it all. that will got that little sister lena. she's a german missionary who has spent 50 years working and she's won numerous awards for her work and has twice received the german federal cross of merit. over the past decade 5000000 euros in private donations alone have flowed from germany to sister catalina and. 1st met her when he was a high school student at the county's. port

for her project. was one of the teachers. to have had few adult friends around himself mainly with young boys. and gave them gifts like record. the children. out. dubbed the castle during his group exercises the boys would struggle with their feelings afterwards they would spend the night at the castle with the priest he showed them pornographic magazines. questionnaires asking them how. they had to go into his room one by

one. ask them about their dreams and urged them to masturbate in his room. to germany she talked about. the boy. she developed a friendship with. her foundation. he offered. to come to germany and live at his house. numerous young people. living with her are in germany. what does she think about that now knowing what she. and is there still a link between the priest and her organization. kenneth peter i know you do

a very well. and i came to chile to visit us one time had there were any flushed and i could never have imagined that things like that could have happened to him. he certainly tried to be a good person through his efforts to help many many people feel i feel and i'm sure i witnessed that myself had a fistful. of sign all the time i mean i feel for he even used his own pension to pay for a child to be able to study and for young person a man a woman people who just went to him with their needs that. i know from the time that i was at school that he would give a gift to the boys that he was off to the fishing to go back. on so obviously when i hear that he's been trying to be generous here when they get immediately arouses my suspicions that his generosity was all into being able to pursue his last side and i wish and i knock in so could i thought i couldn't say that kind of do you

think none of the young people that i know and i knew the moment and none of them could say that they became a victim of front of all those who were there from the north or south some from bolivia to no one said anything at all cause i don't know of a single one it is the only one who was he's still sending money. yeah he sends money here lives for 2 or 3 young women that he got to know here and made an effort to help them much he still sends money for them that had. died to him. i have to go. yes yeah and this comes out of this is that my heart goes out to more and more of the people who have suffered. that is our top priority and. that you

think it. does as she says me as a doesn't make sense to me to be honest this is exactly the problem if you're too close to the perpetrator it's incredibly difficult to distance yourself from them and make a clean break to come down entirely on the side of the victim. it won't be his last conversation with sister. but 1st he wants to find the people who went from here to stay with petra are in germany. 2 of them were mentioned in the report on the hill. from now on. film with a hidden camera. in an outlying districts. he begins to ask around. what exactly did peer to our do after leaving. he was forced to leave the school in

1901 after his students wrote a complaint. they said his youth work was merely. and that in reality he was trying to control and influence their sexuality. but instead of going to the police his superiors in the church simply transferred him. first to the city of getting and they informed no one there about what he'd been doing and so once again peter was working with children he abused a 9 year old an 11 year old and a 14 year old the church dealt with the matter internally and transferred him again this time to heal the time it was now. here was appointed priest at a local church where he helped provide meals to the needy. it was during this time that he began inviting young people from chile to stay with him a number of girls spent several months at his house helping with household duties in 19031 mother from here that she believed the priest was harassing them. she

said the girls had told her he kept touching their breasts finally 4 years later was transferred to. 2 years after that he was moved from there to hanover. since 2003 he's been retired and living in. when. the. is hoping to speak to some of the women from chile who stayed with peta are one young woman agrees to meet him she's a new contact her name was not mentioned in the german investigation she spent a whole year living with pay to are in hanover her sister also stayed with him and head of time she is mentioned in the head of time report but no one's been in contact with her. the family is part of sister parish.

but when i was 12 or 13. you know he came to chile to visit carolina. and twice he took my sister to carolina's house. she said he had touched her breasts. when he did it for a 2nd time i witnessed it myself. i remember how worried my sister was about visiting him in germany. she didn't want to go. so when you went to germany was your sister why are you so you know yes she didn't want me to go to hanover because she knew i'd be alone with him. but i decided to go because i wanted to learn the language. i didn't want to stay with him but i wanted to learn. in the open that.

right from the start he took away the key to my room. so i pushed the sofa and the door but i was still afraid because i was alone and i knew what he was like. the only. way that he rented an apartment in berlin and. i didn't like going there because i had to sleep in the same room as him. but one time i woke up in the night and heard him making strange sounds in his bed he was masturbating why don't you just. forgive i didn't want to go back to berlin after that and when i did. the chairs and my suitcase around my bed so that i would hear him if he approached me in the night. i mean that. today the priest is 77 and still living in that berlin apartment. there that he abused the young girl from his time reported her case to church authorities in 2010

. that was the year the general public in germany heard about peta are because more than 40 other. students went public in the church responded all the cases had expired under the statute of limitations and it neglected to mention the young woman who had reported her case that same year nevertheless the abuse scandal made international news and reached to. suddenly peter was in the newspaper and i read that he had abused many children. i told my brothers and sisters about it or not my parents as they knew nothing of what had happened. and then right at that time when the news came out that he suddenly turned up here at our house. my parents anything about the scandal he just said he'd come for a holiday. and my brothers and sisters came and we demanded

a meeting with carolina. force him to leave my house and to tell my parents what was happening. just said the media reports all kinds of things and acted like he done nothing wrong at all. sister carolina defended him. then my brother told him to leave our house to carolyn i took him with a. new sense. time. yes. i keep telling myself he should pay with a life sentence for what he's done. what no one should suffer the way people suffered under him. as we see should be sent to prison to pay. you so my guess is so i guess he knows what he's done. what i don't understand is that he talked about god and being

a catholic but then did such evil thing was yes it is evil now he needs to pay i think about its time it's sort of. at the end the young woman shows us a photo of her with good friends of peta are in here this time because no one stopped the priest the young girl next to her was also abused by him. that was the student who reported her case to the head assigned bishops in 2010. most against a 3rd came from having to fight back tears the whole time of the cheese and. about this dish it was the right thing to do as we see what i did was right. just which would be painful to talk about it but there comes a point when you have to lay everything out on the table and then it's enough went . now i'm going to focus on it from morning till night

but you just need to have it all out as once and say this is what happened he's responsible and they look the other way or cooperated or later covered it up. well don't come on and then you can slowly start to close the box and say that's it all enough of all and then you can get on with your life and then come up with a little. during our previous conversation sister catalina claimed she knew nothing of any abuse cases and chilling now we've heard a different story evidently sister kelly and even took the priest into her home in 2010 at the height of the abuse scandal so what's the truth. wendy i'm told that if they had said anything that our daughters had problems i would have confronted peter and center home. but you did not do that in 2010 you

didn't send him home to give my house was a question i couldn't because i didn't know anything they said nothing that you knew from the press need for not really girls but in general. to find out but i said from the press and human but i can't condemn someone based on accusations in the press. i knew pater liked to have hugs and kisses adamantly and crystal and gave and kisses him self which was a bit unusual that's it's done at last but a kiss here a kiss there. i'm christian and i can't tell you anything i didn't see anything or know anything could there be more abuse survivors who haven't said anything i think when i ask various ones i got no answer i know it's not possible at all it's get do you want for auntie there are some younger many are known to have someone touches them in the wrong way they give them

a slab plus and that's it to the last guy for if they touch their breasts i thought i'm close but when they try to kiss their eyes much on. the months it of course sometimes it's problematic because sometimes with a person going to start to cooperate and go along with it and the and that to the thing that i thought and. vestments about him then later they think that he crossed a boundary at all. and then they start to feel partly guilty if you insist that they let it happen at 20 that's except that they allowed the other person to do what he did and for them to move again massively specially i understand the 2 girls had a terrible time in germany. is this need image yes for them as in that partly their own responsibility and interest but shouldn't one sister warn the other and say don't do it mothers are terrible for me at least so it's the family's responsibility. or sense of families responsibility we saw an elephant standing how

are outsiders supposed to know it in the morning to know and then the man pays for your studies afterward it is given you carry on accepting the money for life happens oh maybe they were afraid because patzer paid the money through us visa basically had got their money here and the office to skate on does and that's probably doubly difficult because you accuse the man like he was at the same time sending you money that's monday and then. on clock. so as soon as i get the chance i want to talk to the 2 of them and i won't come with any accusation and for well i'll just say how sorry i am they didn't have enough trust to say something back then i think i thought the whole had it all of us thought it would have helped me a great deal i had said some play ok maybe i could have helped a greater effort i really think i could have done it was teddy if i'd have known i could have intervened shank i've woken couldn't you have helped the girls to have it really for us of course as far as you can help and have all kind of hit it but

what's done is done i wouldn't know how to help the families who have to word 5000000 i really wouldn't this definition does this worry your song and i thank him but it hurts me that they didn't trust me enough to say anything it would be this this is nick that's modest but only. because this was a gift they could have given me one from me trust me and they knew me. that steam never the lessons in life we live for it's on and i want to include others and to move on do of it so again on that and it would really be mine desire for the 2 of them that they can get free of this and really and i'm ready to talk to them with all the love that i'm capable of god's help so right that's my hope for both of them. that we would be able to talk.

english to go she wants to believe wish that and i can understand bhatt that her colleagues and friends are innocent of these things we surely didn't in the dinner . and others also should rather focus on and believe everything that appears to speak for them than to just believe the simple statements of the victims he simply also helpful. so she relativize is plays down to 6 excuses or explanations like levels of fin. obviously it's a bitter experience for me even that it's nothing new in fact it was

a recurring pattern at least i thought out as most noted obviously i now have my doubts as regards the safety of the children and young people here today in my gob by that got my home very much that is the bitter realize asian. which is based are also for all the friends of sister carolyn and her work in all the other than that it will provoke a response that says. this month how can we prevent this kind of suffering from occurring again. in the institutions and initiative service foundation even. and how can we distanced ourselves clearly from these perpetrators in the past on stuff like this don't see. the abusive priest had access to children and young people for more than 40 years he was unwilling to speak to us on camera but back in 2015 he did agree to be interviewed at his berlin apartment. he said he only asked the can use your students to masturbate in his room so that he wouldn't have to

report them to the school director. as for the girls he said he never gave them anything more than a kiss on the cheek. from his point of view he has no criminal. meanwhile his mission is not over yet now he's arrived in northern chile. has been here before too. he visited the other implicated priest from germany. he said to be living in today. the 2 of them 1st met his high school students in the 1950 s. then in the seventy's they worked as teachers at the berlin.

it was here that they met sister. but there's something else that peter r. and wolfgang s. have in common a large group of former students say they were abused by both teachers while at the community. and mathias kutch is one of them. stripped the children naked and beat them for hours after his deeds came to light he too was transferred 1st of all to hamburg. after. he was transferred. to the church. and. added that he had.

kept. the crime. continued to work for the. athletes from here have even. heard about the 2010. or so harvest the coach.

there were accusations against him. there are many people here who to this day continue to speak about sin with affection. nothing like that. he didn't do anything. and we didn't see anything else. he worked and that. my question is. if these documents exist the north exactly is ations why some in person. but my ts kutch speaks with a woman on the phone who has a very different view. all all along my feels. she met both of us and pay to our at what the windows. they were known as part of a voice free and party pedro she went to stay with peter are in here does what you

want but is she willing to talk to mathias kutch about it but for a last ace. one and it was at 6 o'clock here. good very good. by evening our contact had changed her mind she didn't want to speak in a public place but rather at home in her own apartment she too has heard nothing from here this time she's received no compensation or offer of counseling. can you tell us how you got to know the battle and already appear that oh yeah wolfie. picking me up but when i was little i went to throw some of those together with my family because it was linked to the church. he wanted me from india until 2nd year b.c. . then vavi came to visit us and we really trusted him with a new motor confidence that we felt very privileged to be close to

a priest for the colonel. again the number 2 we're going to set up is we got to know petra while he was here on holiday and when he offered my sister and me the opportunity to come to germany for learning purposes. he felt that we were intelligent somehow. and that we could achieve more and have great opportunities. here. and had you experienced anything with alfie at that time policy committee. a woman's there was a very disturbing situation with my sister but. first he lifted up her skirt. yes and he had her more than once on her. and she felt terrible she says she's never been able to wear a scarf again to this day simply the smacking was something he always did to the boys at the club not the girls under the bus that was very rare. for pussy licking no good how come you've never spoken about this and all these years. because it's

shameful. but there was something else she struggled with too in here this time they were at heels for donations to sister catalina encrease to even pay to are used photos of his young guests from chilling to raise funds for the foundation. ilithyia moved up in numbers for. it was terrible to see the photos of myself wearing dirty ragged things. because it obviously provoked an emotional response causing people to want to help was like most here now right he said i pretend that we are you. and that is tough for a child but then i don't believe it was in the padre we knew from chile where we thought he's helping us out whether that means fallen terribly i will pursue ok you said that when you 1st got to know pettily bitter some way happened that should

never have happened but the video will pass all. i've yeah there was something that immediately bothered me c. and that was as harks 7 s. imagine he would have been under the arms but he put his hands. he put his hands on my mind knowing me and my breast. in effect. has this affected your life. yes you're going the see and when i sense that someone is the tractor to me sexually i just freeze completely. it's like something that's beyond my control. michael hill my body feels inevitable and i seem to go into a state of shock. but i have a look at your borman excited look at me it's really difficult to get psychological

help here in chile. it's complicated because it's very expensive. to do normally a lot number that your name was mentioned in the holder's time reporter along with a number of others and. to this day no one's trying to contact you as part of the investigation police and i in history history has feel somewhat like a muslim in well that he knows where south americans will be you know what does it matter if it's one child more or less from here you here when i heard about it i thought of course the others are german children people are more likely to listen to them. the ones from the air or maybe not so important here it's the parents' responsibility. they're the ones who sent us there. and then suddenly the earthquake puts an end to our conversation.

with all. that. is not yet finished and. he now knows that both his former teachers were responsible for bringing young people from here to germany but what he doesn't yet know for sure is whether s. who is now 73 years old is still living here today and what he's doing. he goes to the santa cruz church where the former jesuit priest used to be in charge he wants to meet with his successor and warn him what he wants to speak to. the 2 of them talk for 3 hours. tells the priest about his own experience and as used to strip him naked and beat him for hours he talks about his other classmates and how

the scandal came out in 2010. he speaks about the abuse survivors here in. the priest said he had no idea of the scale of the problem he says he'll appeal for others in this parish to come forward with what they know and he gives mathias kutch vote as his current address. it seems to be the case here in a recurve that everyone who heard about the abuse scandal in 2010 really believes it was just slander and that nothing actually happened is always abuse mentioned just of the bad people in germany who came up with an idea to harm their part and so they just dismissed it but they say he's still here and still in contact with the church members that are involved in the running club in my name if they don't be. the vehicle goes he gets and that's true overall though he's said to live quite a secluded life it's. no longer makes public appearances in the way that he used to when he 1st showed up here the others. but so that's

a here off the top this comes about i thought about going to see his. yard yes i thought about is that he thought to be honest i don't want my kind of confrontation the whole thing would take a psychological time. other people always want that kind of thing and some kind of reconciliation or whatever but that's not me me this is the i don't think that's important we talked far too much about the perpetrators and not enough about the victims really for them. in september 28th the german bishops conference published a new study on child abuse in the catholic church in germany. it found at least 3600 children fell victim to abuse between 19462014. cardinal 100 marks apologized to those who suffered abuse.

i feel ashamed when i see how so many just look the other way who didn't want to. what was happening and played it down. didn't want to see or hear and i include myself in that we didn't listen enough to the victims all this cannot remain without consequences those who have suffered have a right to justice. the vatican itself has since held its 1st summit aimed at tackling the global problem of sexual abuse by catholic clergy . but what about the diocese of ahead of time auxiliary bishop hinds going to bungle it wasn't willing to speak on camera he wrote to us that despite what he called intensive research by the vatican embassy in chile it had not been possible to make contact with any abuse survivors there. but he said the hideous crime cases would be included in an internal church tribunals looking into the case against paper are the maximum punishment would be dismissal from the priesthood.

my time in chile is coming to an end it's a final evening in that it. has managed to find the young women named in the hill discovery court and by talking to their sisters has identified 2 more previously unknown victims of peter or he will now pass on their names to the diocese in the hope that they can receive compensation and professional help. it felt like the mission was over but then. change of heart. the red one.

down. and for a german man. oh yeah they've been. out. there and got his houses back there. now. they must i don't really need to go there i've seen enough i know where it is and that's enough. but i just wanted to know where he is and that's ok it's not about him. i mean if you found the it's what you did good and i feel good relieved exactly lighter than before yes that of our life. after mathias courage left we tried to speak to was god as ourselves but he didn't answer the door.

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