ideas that protect the climate used green energy solutions and reforestation. they create interactive content teaching the next generation about environmental protection and more determined to build something here for the next generation global ideas the multimedia environment series on t w. last week the british royal navy seized an iranian ship off gibraltar iran threatened to retaliate and that is what happened almost happened yesterday that's according to the royal navy tehran insists that nothing happened tonight the u.k. is trying to deescalate can it limit tensions with iran before this becomes more than a tit for tat over tankers i'm burnt off in berlin this is the day. it

is and that is that england has taken now requires us to show a reaction because our national interests are in danger. of 3 very concerning developments but also very proud of the role knight and the role that they play. as expresses shipping safety calls on the cynics and the concho in the reaction to what was their reaction when we hit the american drug nothing. we are constantly monitoring the security council be keeping on to refute the kind of security that we need to keep british shipping safe. also coming up the white house social media summit what do the people attending have in common well a love for donald trump and no love for the mainstream media. and. these people who don't like me and probably don't like you i'm going

to talk directly to my followers about what i know about the white house social media is on tomorrow. on to our viewers on p.b.s. in the united states and around the world well we begin the day with another clash on the seas between britain and iran tehran is denying accusations that its boat attempted to intercept a british oil tanker near the sea. great of hormuz the royal navy says that one of its frigates was forced to intervene now it comes a week after the u.k. seized in a rainy a tanker loaded with oil allegedly headed for syria a violation of e.u. sanctions against damascus and as tensions rise with tehran over tankers london is trying to save the iran nuclear deal an almost impossible situation tonight we ask how much longer can london afford to play both sides it's. the strait of hormuz one of the world's busiest shipping lanes through which

a 3rd of the world's seaborne oil passes iran's navy is an active presence here. the narrowest point in the strait is only 40 kilometers wide the british ministry of defense said the incident took place near the island of abu mussab it says this frigate turned away rain in speedboat stuff were threatening the british oil tanker the u.k. foreign minister has responded by calling for calm obviously very concerning to violence but also very proud of the royal navy and the role that they played in keeping british assets british shipping safe we'll continue to monitor the situation very very carefully the fear is that this latest incident will escalation becomes days after british authorities seized an iranian tanker off gibraltar claiming it was violating sanctions by delivering oil to syria earlier this week iran also started enriching uranium beyond the limits set down the 2050 nuclear

deal it signed with international powers iran says the confrontation never happened its foreign minister mohammed serif has called the british accusations worthless iran's farce news agency quote sorry for saying they are seeking to cover up their weaknesses with such claims as tensions in the gulf simmer diplomats are scrambling to keep the nuclear deal from on ruffling completely. over more on this i'm joined tonight from brussels by none to buy to buy he's a political analyst on arena fares c.e.o. of carpet which consults on iran for european policy makers and none is good to see you again let me start by asking you how you read this i said at the beginning of the show that this could be just a tit for tat over oil tankers how big of a deal do you think this is.

nice and can turn into a big deal and we're also saying that all sides are while expressing concern. and. we. can. talk asians but they can also be carried out by. we know that iran had threatened last week after that iranian take or was seized off of gibraltar to seize a british ship of some sort was that playing out in what happened yesterday. we tested it and it's a situation in which iran wants to show it on to anything that it views as being just as. bright as an act or in

a. putting an retaliate and we don't they're. just trying happening so. if you wait and see what. to show and unfortunately the i think this guy we've got is not a good one it's for having problems hearing you we certainly apologize for that at 9 to 5 to buy their joining us to talk about the situation between the u.k. and iran. all right coming up later on the day we will meet a holocaust survivor sent out of nazi germany by his parents as a child he returns to berlin with a warning about our prez. that was the beginning of our trip to. some it was traumatic some of the. younger ones being way from home was difficult

they would look with at this to talk about it the just as mad as the 5 and it did happen and i'm afraid it's could happen either i hope not. germany's domestic intelligence agency which is known as the federal office for the protection of the constitution the b. f. v. for short it has a long list of groups that it watches groups that it considers to be extremists and threats to democracy the b.f. these power reaches all the way in the parliament the anti immigration party the alternative for germany the a.f.d. is now the largest opposition party in parliament the party itself is not under surveillance but several of its groups such as the youth wing they are being monitored in the summer of 2015 more than 1000000 migrants mostly from war torn syria came here to germany now their arrival gave rise to violent demonstrations

led by. that's a group against the islamification of europe to get it is on that list of organizations being watched and here in germany even the monitors can be monitored last year the head of the office to protect the constitution hons georg mohsen he was forced to resign after publicly questioning claims about the seriousness of right wing violence in the country and there are renewed worries that the far right is growing in size and influence here in germany a regional conservative politician known for his pro migrant stance valter luka was shot dead at his home last month one man has confessed but investigators are not convinced that he acted alone. well now germany's domestic intelligence agency says that it is stepping up observation of another group the i didn't

a terry in movement which has targeted immigrants and refugees especially muslims the agency says that the group which is believed to have about 600 members here in germany is now officially classified as quote an extreme right move. our let's bring in the w.'s political correspondent is simon young so i mean you have covered far right extremist movements here in this country for years let's talk about the german i did to tear ian's who are they do they stand for you know the i did terry and they see themselves as a sort of path youth movement and the the sort of young modern face of far right thinking so we're not talking about the old school. nazis we skinheads in heavy boots marching in the streets these are people with a sort of theoretical idea behind what they're saying and they haven't tended to get involved in in violence what they have done is that quite

a lot of rather successful media stunts for instance in 2016 they combed on top of the brandenburg gate here in berlin and sort of around rolled some some banners and that obviously got some attention those are the pictures there in 2017 they even had a shave sailing in the mediterranean saying that it was picking up migrants trying to return them to the countries where they've come from sort of protesting against people smuggling is they said so they talk about returning migrants to their home countries about to defending europe as they put it against multiculturalism which they describe as a betrayal and so even though they're not a huge group only about 600 according to the old thor it's he's been investigating them they have been able to create some. so i mean there aren't that many of them 600 and they've been around for about a decade so why are they now coming under scrutiny you know they've been operating

in germany officially since 2012 in the office for the protection of the constitution has been they say it's actually the domestic security service has been looking into them for the last 2 or 3 years and of course it's necessary to observe their activities see what they're saying see who they speaking to who's listening to them to understand how dangerous they could be and indeed collect evidence that would stand up in cool because it's very likely that there will be a protest against against this move by the intelligence or thoughts is so they've they've now come out and said the what these people want is not compatible with germany's constitution and they essentially involves not treating people with respect and dignity as required under the constitution and what does it mean when the domestic intelligence service in germany says you are being surveyed and you're under observation what happens well i mean up to now they've been under observation

but they could obviously now be subject to more intense surveillance measures and that would even include a telephone or competes surveillance that would probably require the agreement of a judge or a court in some form but nonetheless these things could be done and indeed if it continues if the problems continue then ultimately this group could face a ban down the track or indeed the measures could be taken away again if they decide to sort of cool their boots and not be so offensive in public we've reported on so many groups there's the peta movement there are political parties the alternative for germany there's the n.p.t. there are lots of groups that were i guess you would sort of classify as being far right so how would the identity ariens how do they fit in to this spectrum if you will well i think they're part of the. seeing but they've been clever enough to keep it omes length so there are no direct links between the event terry and

princeton's and a f.t.v. party the far right political party we have here in palm and now indeed the a of d. of said if you are a member of the against syrians that you can't join the a.f.p. but there have been several cases where it's been obvious that there are sympathies you do get it into terry and turning up to a if the rallies and you know supporting people on a personal basis so they're all links informal links if you like but these guys are very clever too and careful to make sure that they they can't be attacked they don't want to get on the wrong side of the law well now they're going to have more difficulty in staying on the right side and they do have the room so it's easy to spot as well so i'm young as always thank you. well this is the invitation sent by the white house for today's social media summit the recipients we understand are representatives ranging from conservatives to the

world of tribal politics to the far right. of those who did not receive invitations or just as notable the giant such as facebook and twitter they were not asked to attend trump says this summit will highlight the power of social media over mainstream media which as we know he labels as fake news ironically trump used several tweets today to make his point he tweeted that the biggest subject at the summit will be the tremendous dishonesty bias discrimination and suppression practiced by certain companies we will not let them get away with it much longer he tweeted it and then he followed up with one of the mantras of his presidency the fake news is not as important or as powerful as social media or my next guest tonight so i understand was not invited to the

white house social media summit he was invited to join me tonight and we're delighted that he accepted i'm happy to welcome angelo kara's own president of media matters he's in washington d.c. tonight enjoy it's good to have you on the show thank you so much do you agree with me that it's part of the message that the white house wants to send with this summit that there are groups and and people on social media who are accepted and get invitations and there are groups who get left out. of course and and i also think that you know trump was very clear to what the what he was trying to get out of this which was to rally his troops across the full spectrum of the right you know the more establishment survey gives all the way to the worst extremists and you know they're part of this is to sort of work the refs to put up enough pressure with these platforms to prevent them from putting in place countermeasures protections against this information and extremism and it worked

well in 2016 they did this in 2016 and were actually able to get facebook to change walls that allowed for them to engage in suppressive advertisements so there really is an intentional strategy here and they're being pretty transparent about it and we could say that the social media summit is really just another form of a political rally for his base this taking place in the white house would you agree . i agree and i think that's exactly right and if you want package it with that base is you know i don't think it's a problem to pull together influencers on social media or online i know president obama did this when he got into office he you know did a meeting with the most progressive prominent progressive bloggers at that time and and it was good it was a way to sort of interact with a new form of media and i don't think there's anything objectionable on face with president engaging with part of the information landscape however when you want package who's there i mean some of the people that were invited and it was no

accident you know one guy that this this ali akbar has previously done podcast live interviews with individuals that were waving nazi flags that were saying it of hillary's a good man as a part of his programming i mean he is somebody with intense ties to the far right and you know your last segment really ties in here because one of the things that a lot of the participants there do is they try to do a really good job of not you know avoiding having a really icky official relationship with an extremist or a racist organization even though as i just pointed out they promote and engage very routinely with some of the most extreme parts of that segment and what you're saying and what i mean that's really important and it's a it's a story do you think though that the mainstream media particularly in the united states will they report exactly what you just talked about my impression is that it's going to get short shrift what do you think. i agree and i think it's because

you know the the media reacts in especially in the states they're not going to go as deep as they should go you know they'll maybe throw an offhanded quick comment about you know trump of bringing together all these far right figures but they're not going to go deep as to who is there and why not why not going to look at why not i think a large part of it is you know one of the things that the right wing has done really effectively in the states for the past 30 years with the news media is that they have made they've made cries of liberal bias about absolutely everything and part of the reason why we have such a difficulty around climate change or some of these major topics is that in order to prevent themselves from being attacked as liberal. media news media tends to you know both sides it will give everybody equal voice is they tend to have a tendency not to characterize extremist as extremists and less and less it's extremely clear cut less you have a giant i'm a member of the k.k.k. badge they're very reluctant to refer to you that way and so that that's the

hesitancy you know they've basically been the refs have been work in the news media and now i think everyone should be concerned because they want to work the refs on the social media platforms as well yeah that's a good point you make in social media. it's part of the problem when we talk about the held society has become so fractured and fragmented but. the bigger problem it appears looking at the us from outside is that the news diet that people consume is seems to be rather unhealthy that people only get one kind of news and that's it they're not getting any balance they're not getting good sources i mean what could 6 that in your opinion it's so true i mean 40 percent of americans use their social media feed as their primary source or a primary or major source of news and information when you so almost one out of every 2 and then when you one package that to your point the majority of americans

that. you get news outside of local news on tend to consume it from an ideological source so a place that they are already agree with the partisan sources as opposed to you know sort of a neutral balancing so on one hand there is this larger problem of what the sources are available and what they say in terms of how to fix this it actually does start a lot with the way that the algorithms of these platforms work i mean there's a massive shift in the economics of the news business unfortunately in the states we don't have a very robust public media that can provide a key of a key count of a key you know centering effect in the conversation which is critical elsewhere and is helpful elsewhere and so as a result of that what you have to think about is what what are the algorithms doing and one of the things they do right now is awarding gaijin so if you're a news outlet you try to chase the clicks because that's how you keep the lights on and that's the challenge here it starts with the rules of the game let me ask you before we run out of time we've got about 45 seconds but we know that there was a court ruling this week in the united states which basically told the u.s.

president you can't block people on twitter because you're using yeah twitter to announce public policy so it's kind of like going to the public square you can shut that off i noticed on your twitter feed as of july 9th you were you were still blocked by the president and you asked him an idea blah didion block you know and i think of all the people on the block list i'm probably somebody who will fight to the death before the mbox me he's tried to sue me he complains about me he absolutely hates me and in part because i you know i don't just lob baseless criticisms i take action that actually hold them accountable have in the past and will continue to do that and i see through his efforts to to work the rest of these platforms in cheap and that's a big part of it so now he hasn't ever ok well let us know if if he does enjoy it i think that well worth the story as well angela carries on with media matters joining us tonight from washington and so we appreciate your time and your insights thank you. thank so much for.

the lay remarkable story of survival now their parents sent them away during germany's nazi period in the hope of saving their lives now a group of kindertransport survivors and their relatives well they've made a remember it's trip to berlin 4 of them were among the 10000 jewish children who were sent to the u.k. in the run up to the 2nd world war most of them never saw their parents again and often they were the only members of their families to survive the holocaust. brady met with a 94 year old kurt marx he was visiting berlin from the u.k. here is his story who should i hate the people who who did it in that i have and it will be older than i am and. so much longer. i go to school. and smoke was coming out of the school. and it was

a commotion the teacher was outside the school and he said you go home to days of the school 13 year old boy who doesn't have to go to school has a day off i didn't mind. i got home as quickly as took me 25 minutes i suppose of a bicycle to get home and they hadn't told me this the night before a friend had phoned is this don't stay at home tonight there's going to be trouble tonight they knew what was going to happen it was all planned it wasn't spontaneous it was pretty all arranged. and fortunately my father had not been at home so he wasn't i didn't pick him up or call him so that was. beginning or feel the realisation that it's impossible but clear by the screen then made a decision it was to move the school to english that was they had they had mastered the director of school so he started this and i'm still

a bit i think about it that in 2 months he organized the 1st group to go to england and he managed it in age weeks is quite incredible i mean work of all together there were 20 boys we're all here so that we weren't in the same class of school so it wasn't. there was no fear. for some it was traumatic some of the it was one of the younger ones because of being way from home was difficult they would not be parents. that was the beginning of our trip to england and i was expecting soon or later to go to america with my parents. and then. time went on i was in the last communication had from them was in 1942 my father wrote on the 19th. to me that they were leaving.

and only in all we knew they were going to the east no detail. we know now was that they went to extermination camp. but this i didn't find out that 30 years ago. and you live with it nothing you can do about it. but at the same time you see what's happening you think what's happening here what's happening in the whole of europe and all these various countries where the right wing is coming up again i remember that i do remember when my parents in those with the adults used to talk about hitler just as mad can't last for 5 years you know got it last and he created. you know what's what happened at the end result was it it did happen and i'm afraid it could happen i don't know i

hope not. feeling is almost on the conversation continues online you'll find us on twitter either d.w. news follow me and broadcast t.v. don't forget to use our hash tag today and remember whatever happens between now and then tomorrow is another day we'll see you then everybody. completely. cut.

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from berlin. in the gulf that's what britain says it was iran says that's what it wasn't says a royal navy frigates has driven off iranian boats trying to intercept a british oil tanker iran denies that there was any confrontation also coming up tonight a powerful storm devastates greece's northern coastal areas leaving the southern people dead dozens injured and the rumors about german chancellor angela merkel's health are swirling.