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days. it's good. to be i'd like to invite with a fire fight to join me on stage well divided who are you. each being not. oh i wasn't prepared for that question but. i feel incredibly fortunate that i never would have thought that things would take off like this when i turn 60 well maybe not take off but things keep getting better and better. but i'm fond of find it. again up till now.

you know. all you have that to me is act naturally used so new car which had barely sold to the police we botched up. no to work. shop i need to just get an idea and then i have to go through with it no matter what i insist sometimes it doesn't work out at all he doesn't want to or she doesn't want to work that doesn't work but you have to be incredibly patient like that painter said i don't know who it was anymore the big one in france he said you need the patience of an ox that had a big impact on me. you can't just give up and say you've had enough does money struck much mark. sometimes you can get so fed up with things you don't want to keep going but you have to pick yourself up and move on you have to keep creating

even if there's no feedback and it's a nonstarter. you never. thought. oh i was.

you don't make the heart of the thing both yes. you got other folks. it has your best it's magic it's a scenario you know. you know not much but the dude has to be that went to a stylist school last year. or so now he knows everything oh so. this is the guns but the clothes. get comfy little to many fashion photographers want to become artists and push that hardly ever goes well with emotions and the end they're still just fashion photography. for the writer is one of the few people who went from art real pure art to fashion and that's why his work is so convincing and that's why it's unmistakable that he has a distinct find for a style. of the 15. is no you can go.

into. the just on this but this is typical for vita style that if this is him in his purest form. of what the hope that the and it's so simple head down bottom up to stripes it might just be an ad for stockings to be but you can instantly recognize his signature you know that there's just going to be steel knots in the can that. you know leap between you know. ok. for fear. talk or 40 years ago i started out as an illustrator at the targets on psycho magazine it used to produce more issues than it does now. and i bowled a small polaroid and took pictures to use as a template on the client. like of this class and.

so then i had all these little pictures and i copied them for my drawings i. asked for photography itself i was too scared of doing it because my hands tremble. and i always have. to say i couldn't take pictures without a flash because they would always come out blurry. vision. and when we 1st started working together we weren't using digital cameras we were still using analog film his 1st job for vogue was with the stylist anastasio barbieri and the model if i had to go over not that vital i took 2 or 3 photos and then he simply got out then left. them to move. too

fast and they said ok vita can we get to work now and he said what do you mean i'm already done and that you have to take a 100 pictures they said and he said 3 are enough. in the fashion world that was pretty extreme. but as for me he movie he is my surroundings have always been very important to me even though i never go have a look at where i am during the shooting beforehand so i just go there and let things begin. and the same rule applies here don't discuss things in advance notice kushner's. directing directing that's what the guys love the good ones too well actually everyone does.

i'm going to see this multiple to one reason why he became so successful. was that fashion photography with all its skillful artificiality needed to be reinvented the 3 she needed artists to reimagine fashion. should we have a huge problem with beauty especially when it comes to serious art. we have delegated the concept of beauty and the way we handle it to advertising to such an extent that no serious artist dares dealing with it anymore i foolishly for me i mean to me is like a reincarnation from earlier days when beauty was still taken seriously. it's each

it's his joy in playing with forms and colors like celebrating a young life just reaching its cusp you simply can they laugh at even if you might appear hesitant at times about his art is very life affirming obvious that comes to extend a muffin's bale. photo shoot feeling . leaning leaning. his head all she will have bullfinches shouldn't be so you can see to feel you can. pompously into look in your you also squint see this is so deep some feel. this remote needs nukes and they have alice went to penn and peek is about critiquing age then you should be throw it in another. movie.

off the. o.p.'s o.p.'s space smile for. the answer i think the reason i think both of those do. you think. it speaks to. is. well that 5 voter 5 you originally did an apprenticeship as a window decorator right yes if you know what that is that falls and i think i was

yes in shall 1000. i can imagine it was a bad breaking job but i'm sure it was also interesting did you learn anything new . i learned the most from the saleswomen. all used to wear yellow aprons it was part of their uniform that's how you can do that anymore i like the way they looked all the same they had all sorts of intrigues it was like elementary school for life. really intrigues i said yes i believe they were the head decorator was about as old as i am now yeah there was a steep staircase leading out steps. that half past 6 all the saleswomen would walk up those stairs in that aprons no pants back then and he would always stand at the bottom of the stairs gnashing his teeth. 6 i love that story sorry for bringing it

up but you did ask. a long week does he actually duck. when you look. so. that is mean with plastic. coffee. i left. the school club. just.

then. i was commissioned by the film podium cinema to design movie posters. it was so much fun. i was completely free to experiment. and you see there wasn't much money in it but it was great to walk past my posters hanging on the street or. any sort of tongue. you see.

the only thing i needed was material to sketch. i started taking pictures of the people who came to visit me in my little room. they'd sit on my bed and tell me what was needed while i worked. it's not saying. this is a page from a scrap book that's going to be published soon all these scrapbooks turned out very thick. just in the distance go. she was. sure. you know this one 1st meets most of you so. far it's. all. so.

used to love sketching with a pencil. then. that brought me to the attention of john christophe among the curator of the museum of art in lieu sun at the time. he said he was doing an exhibition called transform. he asked me to just wander about and explore the topic. i saw carlo in the library of the school of applied arts i was completely and raptured by his beauty.

he began all of it in the very 1st series of carlo york for the transformer exhibition by john christoph a man in the sound you can watch how he becomes this remarkable black and white bouquet of flowers. ever since the fifty's and sixty's until today there's been an intense debate about identity who am i. the old fife and his work in the 1970 s. multiply for also asked this question. even today it still seems quite relevant. sheena who am i what does it mean to be gay how can i lead a gay life. it was a time when the 1st steps were being made to publicly address this issue in germany

in the seventy's it was still forbidden to be openly gay if. it was not a moment though so i can say i can't even quite recall where i 1st saw this picture . and might actually have been in his studio. i could immediately sense that i needed this picture. in that i was going through a deep crisis with my male image at the time it was more about my role as a man and less about my sexual preferences. i can. only hope that at 1st of ita 5 didn't want to sell me the picture. of the. old he said i wouldn't get it for less than $5000.00 francs. because nobody in the

world would ever see it again so i should at least pay for that. so i paid him $200.00 francs a month for 2 years and frankly i'm not so. as

i always told myself a book has to stand out on a bookshelf and filched old everyone has to feel the urge to pick it up and ask what's not with it the more it was the tongue i fished off night. when i went back to new york to ask me to take his book with me and show it to andy warhol. ok i promised i'd try. my 2nd day in new york i went over and told him i was from zurich and had something that might interest andy or indebted to some more important and interesting he hesitated a moment. but then he came on. he was very nervous walters nervous too but warhol seems 10 times more fidgety. he looked through the book with. great great great great pictures great great great

great great great. to the wall pictures small pictures but not. and i was thinking really any warhol just said that i couldn't believe it. up too early but of course the book was published and there was no reaction whatsoever none. and i kept thinking to myself this can't be happening 10 years and nothing to show for it. was among us and as you have to remember it was the 1980 s. and things were more uptight back then or there were these dolls little boys were allowed to play with these can dolls male barbie dolls. but in the 1980 s. he couldn't put his hand down his pants lipstick perhaps that was still too gay. and there were some things there that could clearly be seen as pornographic even

today. but then there is this italian beach picture i think that's his mother. see how to get you so she took it all really well my mother really caught him because she said it reminded her of the olden days so other mothers were different must mind my mother was really cool about it she never worried much about what i was up to she was open to everything oh i remember i once said i wanted to be famous she said it was more important to stay healthy she was writing away in the old steam yacht oh. god. i was. just a dick from voters plus what you hope will do tells us that x. didn't fit at all with what was being shown at the time what was hip so to speak

with of the work i could recognize his personal taste this is a native his technical imperfection and all of that appealed to me because i found his book very lively and i was so enthused by that i immediately decided i wanted to do an exhibition with this photographer who took off and the last of all this was this was the poster he designed. this is his writing thing and it all went very quickly from munich to zurich and back again and through was a little fool call it only took 3 or 4 weeks and then he flew in and i met him this is in the whole garden and munich this photo sums up his whole personality or. was. then i started

writing and realized that i couldn't i wasn't a writer i became desperate again. that old amuses in the world can't help you these boots and then suddenly i remembered that i had a box full of tapes in the basement. full of tapes as we go along to the forge was your good tape he'd been taping phone conversations with his friends for years and if he liked a particular sentence he jotted it down his play vi to be less like a collage or a crazy collage i can still remember a couple of scenes that i liked very much the music would like this one a boy in a civil servants office who's the official stamp like or. think.

all of. this is that which i was for was of course totally absurd would have soared theater but very very funny and the audience went along with it wonderfully. it's about a need to be ops it was never my intention to write one play off to another i was just curious if i could write something that people would actually come to see but some showed just this movie. to call me. feeley out not to buy me as many people said my 1st book of photos was terrible everything completely overexposed this is something one person told me it was simply a catastrophe from a photographic point of view i know somebody else said i still had

a lot to learn so i really wanted to learn so i bought a big 1000 want to make my pictures look i'm a professional of don't need to some piece here and that's how my little photo studio of sorts came to be so what it does have decent photo studio apart from. spinning that's me almost in gimme back then in high school in the eighty's sure you know life was boring. i wondered if there was anything else beyond like 000. so we go to see voter he was like zurich's andy warhol. recently and he will miss it in theory i did and i thought so he and it worked thanks to him i went to new york and could travel around for a few years i had a good time as

a model. so. baltar is an emotional person creative pleasant to work with. seen. does move to read oh no prejudices of each of all he cared about were the people themselves before. god on the mountains it wasn't about who you were where you were from i get him or what your incarnations were. he never had to ask because all you could tell them is pictures who people truly were. the naked ones wanted to be naked that's for sure. clore. they mocked us. this is me rowing. and finding new models was the hardest part i couldn't use the old ones from the

1st book all that was done and over with it was a phase. in my life is like a rocket that burns up and then the next period. next there was one survivor he'd brought me my 1st models. at that time department stores used to be open late one day a week and these boys would hang out there with their pimps mopeds and it used to. when i walked by it felt like eldorado and. then he came along and said no problem and brought them all over to me and there was always a lot going on on thursday evenings. his place was sparsely furnished i fainted and took pictures there used a simple camera. as soon as he got behind us camera he was like

a sniper. he knew exactly what he was aiming at and when to pull the trigger. as for you. he was gay everyone knew that and we'd make jokes about it. you never crossed the line if he had word would have spread and he would have been branded for life but nothing ever happened. does king is all that went on for 2 years until one day zhang christophe called and said you've got an exhibition next year 1906 at the coast with these faces. i still had a lot of work to do. about the same time in 1905 paris had given me a studio. because. back then he was still looking for new faces he always liked to actually buy so he made

me his assistant and i combed through paris with him so this is my job was to approach young people he found interesting and then ask them if maybe they wanted to have a famous photographer take their picture. book so i grabbed my backpack and we went to different parts of town every day he'd approach them they'd say no problem i took my pictures every day so we went through all of paris searched it from top to bottom far and wide i was the happiest person in the world it was like a miracle. miracle it's miracle. said . the exhibition was in bosler 1906 i already had my driver's license that we drove over and it was such

a big event outside in the showcase as you can see is pictures on display we were so excited about that visit and you know with the gong. i went with my mother i was 17. he was sharing an exhibition with bruce weber. of course bruce weber was the star of the eighty's and i was just a nobody from switzerland that's how i felt he was professional not like me to. me anyway i was there at the opening and the only thing i remember was that he told his scout to go over and approach stuff go and came on to the king so he went over and invited stuff to new york for a shooting. stuff was in 7th heaven of course and i just stood there like a drowned rat you could see the difference i was nothing and he was everything i need alice. now.

only now after the big exhibition of the in basel i've had quite enough of all the photos of all the people and of photography all together. so i decided to create a still lives just for myself. so there was nothing and nobody to disturb me. and i could just paint for days in peace for me or here. to be done it fossett by another phase had ended it really was a case of disappearing off the radar. nobody knew who i was anymore and it was better that way. of. the t.v. on the left the cats behind me and the canvas in front of me i drew one painted

picture after picture like an artist it was bliss because it. for some of those. which are. records he is. obviously receipt of. this issue. i mean good clips because you have to look at all 3 components of his work to really understand him. the pictures the drawings and not to be under-estimated his videos the performances. that also spoke to me they were a continuation of his theater and also took up aspects of his photography as a collaborative all that gets me. consists of all these elements and you can't separate them and all.

those who know both of all today involved his amazement at the world stems from the fact that he moved to the city from humble circumstances. it was in the late 1960 s. when many possibilities were just opening up and lots was changing. but i thought it was dope form to hand over he still carries the wonder of a country boy who is now in the big city but who hasn't forgotten how to be amazed . when the book welcome aboard came out everyone said it was such a great comeback but it didn't feel that way to me it was just a new phase. the day agency's books most of the idea behind

this book was to present his photos to the general public again for beautiful to bring him back from obscurity thank you it's all of the right people didn't know who voted 54 was any more. one nice side effect was that he started taking pictures again if it was. my favorite picture is from his book. as a same. when i saw it this one i just thought oh wow is that me. i have to make one point he told me i was a muse really with him you really have to being a muse. and

i can't develop that i quickly people know baltar as someone who takes pictures of beautiful boys but he is also good at taking pictures of women. a certain lively for volatile distinguishes this book has a very beautiful lack of seriousness. of . 8 the book was very well received and greatly contributed to his breakthrough. it's very unusual for someone over 60 to get involved in the world of vogue and such. but thanks to his endless enthusiasm vaulter greatly enjoy. going into 0 as most.

we'll originally wanted to check out sang clue as a shooting location seem to be afoot 1st we stopped at dior the store i used to walk by when i had my studio in paris. and i was starstruck other new montane dior marlena dietrich up stairs you. mean so when we got to san clue i saw all these expensive shoes and the gravel and the trees and the model with the dogs and i wasn't happy at all please i asked if we could go back so we went back to deal to the stairwells and everything was perfect perfect. that was the 3rd high level job i had.

now after that happened with vogue i was approached by an agency in america to me it's the best agency i could imagine can come from without an agent i wouldn't be where i am now i'd still be at the targets and so i guess. having an agency i thought i'd have to work like a mule at the age of 60. that's. a little high. yeah yeah. yeah. yeah ok that's not. that's not.

that's good. that's wonderful. yeah. i have big. run run run run run run feel good. he was funded by taking fuel you do a lot of articles for big magazines for free it's just what you do to polish your name. so for example days it was a freebie one day i working till you dropped to move for lent. how many paid.

for. ali farka me shlomo everybody always asks me why aren't you in paris or london or

tokyo it's the soul but it's so perfect to come back here to be like cinderella and start all over again down and focus on something new on their own to form and to see chalfont close to collapse in. cuba how nice no i don't plan to do anything and yet i thought most i might do a bit more cleaning i haven't done any keating again today i'm really surprised at what still comes my way it may sound modest but it's true. and i hope i still have a few good ideas that would be even better also be on the. well he's. the 1st. talking and. listening to some.

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where i come from we have to fight for a free press and was born and raised in a military dictatorship with just one t.v. shadow and a few newspapers with official information as a journeys i have worked off the streets of many canvassed and they have problems are always the same 14 the social inequality a lack of the freedom of the press and corruption weak on the floor to stay silent when it comes to the fans of the humans and see the microphones who have inside to put their trust in us to name is johnny carson and weren't a d.w.i. .

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