has been that way for many decades and for some time now it's very it's be much more of a helping hand than an active participant so there's absolutely no appetite here in germany to really get involved in a very robust ham's on role particularly in a u.s. led mission and belin simply doesn't want to see its forces led by the u.s. particularly in in this very fragile and very what could be explosive situation right now and we're just getting reports now that both of you know that the united states has just announced it is imposing sanctions on iran's foreign minister zarif that is going to of the tension considerably but that's just coming across right now kate let me stick with you germany is saying no to a u.s. led naval mission what about a european naval mission which the u.s. or the u.k. rather cold for last week one of them and that is one of the big questions of

course at least from the u.k. side things aren't looking so sure that anymore either but there is this fear here in germany as well that words are many to become part of at least that u.s. led mission and that it could become collateral damage and the same could apply to an e.u. naval mission as well so that's something that germany's discussing at the moment but nothing has been moved off the table so far germany is in very close talks with the u.k. and with france right now as we saw there and a great crime karrenbauer the new defense minister was already meeting with french and u.k. officials today to.