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on your plate what you are about to eat is partly responsible for the hotter summers making you sweat a new report from the un's panel on climate change says the way we usually and the way we put food on our table both are not healthy for the planet and for us tonight a recipe to slow the global warming a radical change on the menu i'm berlin this is the day. the way we produce food on what we eat contributes to the loss of nature systems and declining biodiversity. we need to lead he kept on going through all the consumption and production of meat. diets that are high in grains not some vegetables of a lure carbon footprint than those that are high end meat. there
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is no possibility for anybody to see all climate change is happening and then happening and then we just adapt to it the capacity to adapt is limited. also coming up will board a ship with a crew committed to saving migrants from drowning in the mediterranean and they do it knowing it could land them in prison. human lives have to be saved for me that's not up for debate and there's too much discussion going on about it about who should be saved and us as if you know. our viewers on p.b.s. in the united states and all around the world welcome we begin today with what we are learning about climate change and for many of you it may be hard to swallow today the united nations' intergovernmental panel on climate change published a special report on land how we use it and hell that use contributes to our warming
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planet consider a medium rare prime rib steak one before it served fields are fertilized to produce feed for cattle there's kells are then fed and produce methane a greenhouse gas that is much more potent than carbon dioxide half of all human caused emissions of methane come from livestock 50 percent and demand for steaks it's growing the entire food chain according to this new report must be reimagined and reassembled a fact that could spoil your appetite or change what you're great. this german field is bone dry drought has again parts of the country these crops will yield much less wheat than usual and a new report by the intergovernmental panel on climate change warns that dry periods like this will become more frequent and more intense. the mediterranean
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region and southern africa will be especially hard hit. the problems are already visible today a quarter of arable land worldwide has deteriorated due to the creation of deserts erosion or salinisation but more and more food has to be produced to feed the world's growing population it's a vicious cycle on the one hand farming produces the food that people desperately need but on the other hand it's a driving factor in climate change. overall farming creates more than 20 percent of greenhouse gases like carbon dioxide cattle and rice production make up half of methane emissions a climate pollutant worse than c o 2 and human made fertilizers creates 3 quarters of nitric oxide emissions it's an especially potent greenhouse gas scientists are worried about how quickly the farming sector is growing an area 2 thirds the size
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of australia has been turned into agricultural land in the last few decades the i.p.c.c. says it's time to change the good news emissions from farming can be cut. if we change how we farm and what we eat fruit and vegetables need less oil and water and they generate far less greenhouse gases than meat for example if the world's population growth slows down and people consume less meat scientists think there's only a low risk that more land will be needed by intensive agriculture and there would be enough food to go around the picture is very different if the global population increases at a faster rate than at present and our consumption of resources remains high the i.p.c.c. warns that could result in an environmental catastrophe climbing temperatures would create larger and larger deserts and gravely endanger our capacity to feed the world. and she
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is one of the lead authors of the chapter on food security in this new i.p.c.c. report it's going to have you on the show tonight have we reached that point at which climate change is threatening our ability to put food on the table. we're nearing don't mind we're not there yet but it is uprooting rapidly. and the land we use to produce the food we eat i mean that is a circle talk to me about how this circle has become a vicious circle. when we look at the food system as approval from the farm to the fore. we see greenhouse gas emissions coming from both and especially in livestock production then when we transport
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that crude made in the farmer's fields to the consumers or the storage the grocer seeing the shipping for me to any or all of that takes energy so there's energy emitted there's greenhouse gases emitted from the supply chain and that's all then delivered to you know people around the world eating this is a mobile food food supply chains and it sure says that everybody me. certainly in the world women are sure in the world where there are choices to be made we need to be sure to talk about people in developing countries who are in a different situation but. the dietary choices have become now very very important. to green to the climate change just one more thing sure
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lost and we see it we need to be sure to talk about that too just the food mart and waste across this whole system accounts for 8 to 10 percent of the total greenhouse gas emissions i mean that's that's huge we throw away so much and i guess people don't realize when they are actually fueling global warming so let me ask you before we run out of time set the what's the takeaway from this report is the take away that we should reduce how much meat we consume or that we should use climate friendly methods to produce the meat that we eat. oh no the answer is that. those who have choices about their food choices need to think seriously. the choices with plant diets that are rich in plants and greens the nuts and fruits that many people are already eating more of is very
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helpful to reduce these things greenhouse gas emissions for those who are neat eaters it's important to. purchase need that has been created there has been produced in no greenhouse gas emissions environment now remember ago some people in the world have choices about what the eve of the big but there are many people who are living in developing country regions who are small farmers in some of those settings they don't have really that's your ace and meat is often a very important part of the protein that people eat but when we have races for the people who do have choices it is very important to be given to to really consider our diets as a as a as important and our food loss in ways bones and important ways that we can
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contribute to solving global warming so i think most and so i climatologist at nasa and also one of the authors of that i.p.c.c. report that came out today cynthia thank you we apologize to you for that signal there from geneva. art i'd like to call in now friedrich he is executive director of the good food institute which is a u.s. based nonprofit. plant based meat dairy and eggs as well as cultured neat and clean neat welcome to the show we're talking about food this evening so i'm going to ask you what the jew eat for breakfast this morning. as with every single morning i had a dream smoothie a smoothie made from fruits and nuts and. plant based milk essentially as well as coffee that's pretty much my breakfast every day ok very good role model and that's exactly what i predict it's
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a i could win the bet there let me ask you how do you read this new climate change report if we were all vegans would that solve a lot of our greenhouse gas problems. well yeah i mean. i think it's i think it's worth recognizing that the least climate change and do sing meat is chicken and according to the world resources institute it chicken causes or times as much climate change per calorie of protein when compared to a lady who saw a and p. chickpeas and that sort of thing so the way we are producing meat right now growing massive amounts of crops to feed those crops to animals so that we can eat animals it takes 9 calories into a chicken which is the most efficient meat at turning out at basically turning crops intimate takes 9 calories into a chicken to get one calorie back out so that's 9 times as much land 9 times as
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much water and 9 times as many pesticides and herbicides then you are shipping those crops to an 8000000 are operating with you know you're shipping the feed to the farm you're operating the farm shipping the animals to a slaughterhouse you're operating a slaughter house you have all that inefficiency and it is a huge adverse kind of impact. dissolution is probably not to just tell everybody to go again because people won't do it so year after year after year after year we see reports like this and it's admirable that the report is blowing the whistle on the problem of industrial animal product reduction but this sort isn't to try to educate people and to get them to convince to convince them to all give the other solution is to basic good living to the budget as do the talking about the solution i know you're a proponent of what is known as clean meat. tell me what is clean meat. so the claim made is basically growing in meat directly from selves so it's
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sometimes called cultured meat it's sometimes called cell based mate basically clean meat is exactly the meat that people enjoy now so it's from a chicken or egg or a cow or at their fish but instead of all of the inefficiency that i just described instead of all of the inefficiency of of feeding why they are else you basically just grow the cells in essentially. a cultivator which is like a giant tank it looks like a beer brewery at production scale and you have you know it's probably going to be 3 times as efficient as chicken production which is the most efficient meat production require 95 to 99 percent less land so we can reforest that land as a part of our climate mitigation strategy 90 percent less water much less energy is just a far more efficient way of producing me. if we have go about this so you're talking about producing meat basically in the lab. that may be good for fighting climate
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change but doesn't it continue this this this phenomenon of us being alienated from the source of our food i mean if we're not talking about mass production of meat we're talking about mass production of meat in a lab. well it's not an elaborate i mean all food all processed food starts in a food lab and then eventually it's processed in essentially a factory so this will production scale look like a big brewery so the meat will be cultivated in something that looks like a brewery and if you want to talk about being alienated from our food i mean chickens these days 6 to 7 times as quickly as they would naturally i mean look at what's happening on a modern look at what's happening in a modern slaughterhouse so this is sort of the opposite of how these animals are supposed to have been raised how these animals are supposed to be treated and you know nobody wants to look at what's happening on a modern farm nobody wants to look at what's happening in
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a modern slaughterhouse you produce meat in this better way it's much safer for people's families it doesn't require any antibiotics so it solves the problem of antibiotic resistant superbugs it solves the climate change problem that this i.p.c.c. report is talking about and consumers can actually watch how meat is made without you know basically having out pangs of moral conscience over a how revolting it is yeah it is it's a good point you bring up because you can have conversations with people who eat meat if you say well you know how did that steak end up on your table and they say well i don't want to think about that you know that's where the conversation ends so does this all this mean then that the future belongs to companies such as beyond the meat and impossible food which would specialize in plant based substitutes for meat. yeah i mean the thing with plant based meat is that it's here now so the clean meat meat grown directly from cells is probably at least
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a few years from commercialization but with plant based meat it's just a recognition that need is made on the limpets i mean as men are also in water what people like about meat is not the farms in the slaughterhouses what people like about meat is that taste the texture and the price so we can use clients to give people everything that they like about meat we can make it taste the same we're better and as it scales up because it's so much more efficient it will cost the same or less and lots of people will switch to plant based meat that's what impossible to and beyond need of doing and then just a huge benefit to the climate much less water required and much safer a product no antibiotics required so this is really you know education is great and people should eat less meat that's an important thing to encourage people to do but most people want you know year after year after year we see studies like this i.p.c.c. report and nevertheless the u.n. says that on our current trajectory we're going to need 70 to 100 percent more meat by 2050 and what this report says is if we need one percent more meat by 2050 we're
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going to fail our goals to meet the paris climbs pretty climate agreement targets so before we are a time when as you say do you see the future as a kind of us several steps here we've got slaughterhouses today. the near future we're going to be talking about plant based meat substitutes and then eventually will be a mature describing clean meat where it is developed it comes from a lab or. a factory if you will but we're moving towards a place where the environment will be protected as well as our health do you see us on that trajectory. yes you are absolutely on that trajectory again if you go eat meat despite how it's produced if you did not eat meat because of how it's produced we can give consumers everything that they like about meat but we can do it with plants and we can do it directly from cells and i would just say on the nomenclature question it's still meat meat does not have to come from a live animal this is plant bees to me it's the same thing but produced in
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a different way and then it's clean meat or cell based meat niekro directly from cells so in the future just like you don't think that a camera has to have film and you don't think that a phone has to have a cord similarly meat will not require a live animal sounds good to me frederick executive director of the good food institute for earth we appreciate your time tonight and even joining those movies thank you thank you very much i appreciate the opportunity. and there it is the mediterranean now for thousands of north african refugees these are the waters that could either rob them of their lives or help give them a chance at starting a new life here in europe most refugees and migrants they end up in spain or greece and these numbers from the u.n. they show arrivals so far this year but italy italy is the one that is
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generating the most headlines because of its hardline approach to unofficial rescue missions rome claims that rescue boats are colluding with human traffickers now anger over increasing migration became political last year in italy voters hoisted a populist government and its far right interior minister you see him right there matteo selvi to power salvini is now by the way calling for new elections new elections could impact the new laws in italy one threatens captains of rescue vessels with fines of up to 1000000 euros if they enter italian ports without permission the government in rome also wants other european union countries to take in more of the refugees in the migrants who are landing in italy a battle on and off the water use macs sunday boarded a c. once risky mission off the libyan coast and he sent us this report.
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takeoff from an undisclosed location. for the german n.g.o.s c. watch is taking us on a reconnaissance flight over the mediterranean. muttiah and pilots have one main objective saving lives or 70 miles off the libyan coast this is this actual better trade your group or the africa. search right is looking for by greg abbott dangerous crossing 1. over boat there leipsic recruits. finding them is like looking for a needle in a haystack and conditions are anything but ideal. this you watch aircraft moon bird mainly operates in the search and rescue zone off the coast of western libya an area that spans more than 350 kilometers of coastline this is where migrant boat set off on their perilous journey to italy and malta footage from an earlier
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mission shows how that looks dozens of people on an overcrowded rubber dinghy passengers often spend days out at sea exposed to the sun and with limited supplies and backup back to people of being on the water for days easily dehydrated desperate and in a serious medical condition those really are emergencies that have to be evacuated as soon as possible. because. after hours up in the air we spot a suspicious object in the water by a half. that's a sunken rabbiting. for now we don't know what happened to the people on board these cheap inflatable boats are not made to last and sometimes sink after days out at sea even if kai and his crew managed to spot a boat in distress it doesn't mean the passengers will be brought to safety due to a crackdown on n.g.o.s there are very few rescue boats left on the water and merchant vessels try to avoid the affected. area all together often the libyan
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coast guard is the last resort for kelly and his colleagues this is a frustrating experience but. i want the people to reach a safe haven i want nice people to get syrup. and i want them to cross the ocean safely and not be brought back in legally. this is wrong as ships are being feast rescue capacities are being caught somewhere the only ones keeping an eye on the water we have to deal with situations like this. we are back on the ground where exactly we cannot say. here are aware that there are organizations activities are being closely monitored since the government such as italy have started to crack down on rescue n.g.o.s see watch faces public criticism and accusations that they are aiding people smugglers. a claim that my bigger asli rejects. but. we would never communicate with people smugglers in our capacity
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that's simply criminals have made a business with people who suffer and make money out of the 2nd stance that they're so desperate and see no other way than reaching out to them pick this not sensitive in cases these claims are used to paint them as criminals have distracts from the real issue mentioned advocate of human lives have to be saved for me that's not up for debate and there's too much discussion going on about it about who should be saved and us mom caught as if you know. despite the mounting pressure media say they will continue to go in missions for as long as they are allowed to or until their work becomes no longer necessary. or finally tonight is just not meant to be for me i am allergic to cats here so.
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there has never been a purring pose to get prancing around my house but those of you who don't sneeze at the side of a siamese you'll be happy to know that today is world kept day a day to recognize your feline friends even though and you know it they really recognize you and why would they they were worshiped as gods in ancient egypt and they have not forgotten or cats you know are known for having 9 lives but in the palestinian west bank they are reviewer for saving human lives miraculous. moments take a look. for hiba 90 cats aren't just pets there her life. 12 years ago the 25 year old graphic designer adopted her 1st stray cat many more have followed since then. she and her mother opened the 1st shelter for stray cats in the palestinian west bank 2 years ago her main motivation is
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protecting the animals. another man's and that is if this was not opened out of the blue it was opened because of the municipalities policy of puzzling kids even residents here also opposing them we have lost so many cats because of this policy that are in the. many stray cats in the streets of hebron are malnourished and sick or are infested with parasites when they arrive at the shelter they are treated by a vet vaccinated and neutered. he currently cares for about 50 cats. feeding them playing with them and keeping the shelter clean is a lot of work and expensive. there the lower the money we spend on the shelter is usually from our own pockets sometimes we received donations and support especially from foreign countries these donations help us to cover the facilities
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expenses. but until now unfortunately it hasn't been enough to cover all the issues that we need to spend money on this give you a little update when the i hear the one. he says she wants to change attitudes toward animals in palestinian society. her dream is to open a separate shelter for stray dogs and a veterinary clinic to care for stray cats. she has a long way to go to achieve that goal but her passion keeps her going. in perth still the days almost done the conversation continues online to find us on twitter you can follow me at brant goff t.v. to forget to use the hash tag the day i remember whatever happens between now and then tomorrow is another day so you're going to.
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