interest. floods droughts climate change become the main driver of mass migration. any. climate exodus starts september 5th on g.w. . we can make china a peaceful country if you ever said no to beijing yes so many times i'm telling you the facts why don't you list the politicians in taiwan being out campaigning in presidential primaries ahead of next year's election with the topic of relations with china very much on the agenda i guess this week outside the capital taipei. way who's been seeking the nomination probating party the kuomintang as china pushes with the increasing see for reunification on the taiwanese continue to

reject its. party. thank you very much for inviting me. you said the only way to resolve the antagonism between china and to i one is to talk and to love. to know your lover showing the threatening taiwan both verbal and militarily and holding a sword over your head continually how do you love what world that's your impression actually if you talk to some chinese in mainland china as long as you don't support separation from china they are not treat you like that they are not attack you also then say the wrong thing another was right right and you know you are normalize that you think that's

a normal way to live the power across 180 kilometers of the straits as to you if you see the wrong thing you finished why do you think i don't think it's that serious you have only a series you keep saying i think you have to talk to each other if you try to visit china so call the china we call the mainland ok we are taiwan our mainland we together is that china is a one china war if you think the threats from china is so serious as one why do you european people all the people around the world all the members up in the e.u. and try to work with china try to have dialogue with china try to solve problems it's true that you know that as well as i do it's not a human rights record is their work and its trade and we can do that too apart from trade what exactly does democratic taiwan have been common these days with one party communist china you have free elections yes they will change your party in

power they don't you have independent courts they know you have a free press they don't you can speak out against abuses of power and they can't what on earth have you got in common with mainland china and. i think we should emphasize differences. go there work with them be their friends be their brothers and change that instead of being their enemies go there walk with them you can change. whether you are doing with them now what you're going to do because of our human rights what on earth are we in china and so that you can change them what on earth is the evidence what you see the trade surplus china with rights you see a lot of changes in hong kong recently why china is not using force to press down be demonstration why the compromise why because they seek opportunity to prove they can change they came pruitt will come on to hong kong a little later i want to go into some detail of that but the serious issue is the

military pressure from china is that even 2 years ago your government's national defense report highlighted concerns that chinese military activity near taiwan posed an enormous threat to security in the taiwan straits now just a few days ago you had washington saying that china stepped up its pressure seeing the largest increase in military activity around taiwan for 20 years and you and you think that's meaningless why us say china is going to interfere in the election in tell you why and so us is coming here to interfere in taiwan is a lecture you happy with these bullying turnouts because that's what they are i'm not happy about bullying thing but i'm not what you asked doing i'm happy about you know we can do persons with each other we can ask the china to make changes we are the only people on earth believe that we can make that happen we can make china

a peaceful country where you look back at the history who are the invaders who are the invaders japan right who participated the wars in asia. you want to live with history you want to live in the now i want you to live you know person in modern humans i assure people i want to i want to make history clear those who are doing vader's ok if you want to be someone's enemy then they will be your enemy if you want to be someone's friend always phone you even if you have friends if only lie ok let me tell you one thing one thing why us is selling our 16 to taiwan instead of $35.00 and the us is selling at $35.00 to korea to japan to singapore to other countries why the united states gave the early island to japan instead of taiwan it was our territory why the us is doing that to

taiwan this show. vice president of the taiwan foundation for democracy said last month that more and more taiwanese feel their nation is now on the existential threat and you seem to be out of touch with that feeling totally you don't feel i'm very i know the reality i feel the reality i know how to deal with the chinese in mainland. i know what's the facts i know you haven't had to give you all of them you don't have to deal with them as a politician i tried to deal with them when i was the mayor here the the big city mayor i work with the city in one gene i try to communicate with them i try to work with them try to ameliorate carbon emissions e.c.s. environmental issues education issues work were down about a dozen matic front where they continue to squeeze you where they ramp up the pressure where they try to persuade countries to drop their recognition diplomatic

recognition that you did that you not curiosity china didn't remember this you lost in 1000002918 so you write to chinese russia you can have an intersection using an engine fake you you recognize china you don't recognize the the republic of china you will recognize me because if i'm going to be about republicans and we were talking about china is taiwan we were the representative of china before 971 and the un i talk. about in history and this is about artistic you know i'm telling the fact we exist here the are we seeing this is here and that's what you called the taiwan but you never knew i couldn't that is the hour see here you recognize the p.r.c. rates what in the e.u. when i read an article recently we here are 21 china policy as regards to taiwan and hong kong and ice i think you should be defined like this we are here to one china policy as regards to mainland taiwan hong kong and

a markup was to show you're not talking about china that continues to thwart one's participation in international organizations like the world health organization and interpol for instance you want to be members of those organisms want to sign up and i want you to help us is trying to stop it why you agreed. to those you know having us like you never criticize china maybe i just know that i must pay attention everybody. who i know know of in time now to know that you didn't answer i didn't say that we've read a lot of i have a chance to express my opinion about china as no toys are being set up this is wrong this is what tell you i have here one more thing the un the e.u. even germany you recognize the p.r.c. you don't recognize the scene and i truly hope one day you recognize the our scene

you know how to participate doubly h. o. ok i and you see the chinese on the lock about yes we have a lot of their best they should try to talk we were talking as what we should try to most results i didn t. intend to such great reality see that candy did that candy tried to talk to mainland china time they tried it it sounded trite yet they tried to do let us put is a magic show especially the daily h o n i c a or mr show beijing is clearly losing patience with taiwan and while you dream of some vague love in between taipei and the mainland china is crystal clear what it wants from you and that's reunification and it refuses to rule out the use of force to get it doesn't it and you live with that and you normalize that on a daily basis ok in our constantly saying to the not you can't converse you you can't enforce the constitution ok there is only one china policy. and that

includes mainland taiwan hong kong and michael that's in our constitution we should by and by our country's constitution are right you're being told by xi jinping as you were in january unification is an inevitable requirement for the great rejuvenation of the chinese people he said taiwan should accept that it must and will be reunited with china whatever talks you've been having with china hasn't got them out of the vat idea and how many people in taiwan want that the unification of under 3 percent there or about that i'm going to don't worry about what the rabble think about you don't know you've already got people up i think but don't worry about their threatening words why don't you stand up to those threatening words what we stand up to you why don't we stand up to that but you know the amount iran must and world every united with china have you got them out to me have you tried

to take a lot of our constitution have you tried to take a look of our norse to show you our knowledge of what china is now saying our laws and in our constitution when one of peaceful relationship we want to unification. the people of the people don't that's in our law in the constitution it doesn't matter what i got to i don't want to try to amend the constitution that's your perception our people here want to have a peaceful relationship with the mainland and we want to make money we want to do business together we want to have a democracy in the future in mainland china but not. against them not taking down s. and enemy trying to be their friends and tragic change them by participation perhaps like what you do once we have the euro that's working so well there's the the reality is mr joe the beijing's push on unification puts your party the kuomintang

into a very difficult position doesn't it your veteran china expert suchi actually said that he said she jinping took away all the space for ambiguity and that puts us the kuomintang in a very difficult situation that difficulty being that your party is being told get on with this by china and you don't have a policy of standing up to it do you do have a policy. i declare doubts i claim that i want to unify china i want to unify under taiwan me less young chance 23000000 people want taiwan against the courage it is made up that is my partner see i don't see one percent of that it's fantasy you have to remember there are 3 not happening. in the world you have to understand the history in the world what's happening now unification separation yes yes that's the process unification separation separation unification. that's a track of the history but there is one thing very important not i also learned

wrongs never mind the track of westerly track of history is just words is the talk of your users it's the fact the question is what people want to know how human nature is the vast majority of your population do me a favor wants unification to me i know have you ever stood up to china i stand out if you have a semblance of them i stand up for the public of the china have you ever said no to beijing yes for many times what on human rights issues through yes really yes you can do when you know exactly what can and then acts and they happen. to be told then i had 2 years whenever i went to china i told don't you need to introduce democracy to your society or they're listening yes he loses money so was he the 1st of the brightest crackdown in 25 years taking place on human rights activists human rights watch reported last year human rights defenders continue to enjoy arbitrary detention imprisonment and the force disappears and you say nothing about. have you

heard i said anything about that i get just now i even told them i even told them because you don't know my history dealing with them i have the many dialogues with them i told them you have to improve that's human rights that's international standards of treating your people i told them to ok i have to tell you one thing if you don't participate if you don't join them if you don't treat them like they can improve their nothing good is going to happen you know what i did live here it's a fine line between that and the peace movement isn't it yes it's a very fulsome fine line it's very ambiguous but you have to do that from your heart. people know that but never spoken up for the tiny taiwanese democracy activists leaving che it's more than living chait's more than 2 years since he was forcibly disappeared you haven't heard of him please chair it's more than 2 years

since he was forcibly disappeared by police in china's grown province and charges subversion of state power he's a citizen of taiwan you don't talk about you don't even. know he's in terrible conditions human rights groups around the world have been campaigning for his release no one of our governor sentenced to 5 years in jail can't get phone course can't get letters 4 times his wife was prevented from from going to the child to visit. and you know his rights of being around 20 years ago i tried to talk to chinese commoners to release an espionage suspects a lady who just got married and he was released recently i talked to our government. went down was the ruling party and they didn't step in they didn't

try to rescue her she was sentenced to death however in jail for 20 years and just a year ago she was released probably just at the in this year she was released and look what the people here have done to help human rights you know we should try to work together and we should try to talk to them and what the government here do let's talk about hong kong again you mentioned earlier the interview and you were you were praising china that they have shown restraint with the demonstration not praising them for that who started this in the 1st place ok that's the more right. for what the demonstrators will tell you that it was a constant erosion of their freedoms under the one country 2 systems formula that forced them on to the streets anywhere the denial of universal suffrage the

kidnapping of booksellers the banning of a political party. the prevention of elected legislative council is taking their seats because they didn't like their politics it's that constant erosion of freedom under the one country 2 systems that's the system that she is offering you one country to nudge them i suggest you take a look what's been happening here in taiwan in the arrow scene the ruling party d.p.p. who claimed they would protect human rights there is a minority you know i have to tell when it embarrasses anything happening here that's the reason why it's so embarrassing because our ruling party is trying to marshal law here doing something even worse and there is one law related to national security you know that's what they are doing here our ruling party here in of course we created size the hong kong government especially the council tried to

establish a law which hong kong residents disagree and that doesn't trusts sold that the show you the latest heritage of that the chief executive your blown kerry lamb the chief exec she's beijing's appointee russian history she is to be our pointy even so-called elected by some hong kong representation. that she was more ask people as from people is their democracy is serious system asking from people we come back to the question and this is the one thing is important they were to draw. a lot draft right they've suspended it they said it was not there it is still there it said they've said it's dead they said they would drop because they did something wrong in the meat i think there's something preceding with it but not now that's that's what's happening before now they say they would say. you're satisfied

it's over now i'm not satisfied about that i'm worried about what's happening here in taiwan and the one country 2 systems formula that she jinping has offered to taiwan we do ads read the that or that's not going to happen that's not going to happen then you mean hong kong is not going to have different systems from china system isn't the last thing i think the system what should exist because that's the the window shop for chinese they should show that improvement of democracy to the world hong kong system is a joke is that if they try to violate that it's going to embarrass them just to show isn't a lesson that you should take away from hong kong is that china doesn't live up to its promises of democracy isn't that the lesson i think and i think talking and one thing i love china i don't live up to the note on this i have to think we

should try to change then we should try to improve them you should 1st say no to them what how do you know i didn't say no to them. doing that i've been doing that for so many years every time i visited china i talked to them. i think improve your system especially a democratic system and they step up their interference with one of the idealists and look at the propaganda war that's being waged against taiwan a study by the university of gothenburg in sweden said you're one of china's major targets for spreading disinformation happy about direct interference well i think. we all see so called the taiwan should be more more opened to outside world especially western society you're avoiding we question are doing is this information came here while china is trying to do that but other countries also try to do that too i think we should take active actions in solving their problems

well they're open society but not open enough to the outside world or people of how many english speaking channels here so take a look about how many how much international media are existing here in taiwan we're not exposed enough to the outside world however the politicians here try to close the door. try not close you know we are one we. know should we or you know we we emphasize local law is ations so much instead of internationalization that's what you don't want to see more going on here do you know when you really miss ourself 1st you don't want to admit it now we want to improve ourselves too we also want to improve china remember i want to take active active process active approach to china to make china change this idea that you can

make sure that chile which frankly is pretty much of a long shot why should people vote for your party next year well if you're selling fantasies like that well no we're not selling fantasy. we're realistic it's a difficult competition. why don't you try to realize what d.p.p. can do p.v.p. is the one who came to the really action why don't you take a look what we're fighting for we're fighting for true democracy here and keep the peace the ruling democracy we're trying to build a peaceful relationship with china with the mainland and we're trying to create a better society here we're trying to introduce your systems your values here to taiwan we're trying so hard to do that if we want to come dance of people here that can keep this country perfectly well then we have to respect the

democracy we have to open our society to the outside world we have to be honest to our people the bad by our ruling party is cheating our people well the bad news for you is that a plurality of taiwanese 45 percent don't identify with your party or the ruling d.p.p. to take a look take a look at you're right you're right they don't trust the parties here yeah they don't trust us they don't trust they're going to trust our party you're not saying anything that they think is relevant what i believe they're what they're saying is relevance we realise the fact already people don't trust the parties here people don't trust the politicians here which is rife with them i trust you i mean you you said in the 2nd probably debate we're going to have some problems you claim that the number of time when these people below the poverty line was believed to be around 3200000. which is suppressed simply not true similarly not true it's true that if you research on no taiwan proportionally contains fewer people

living in poverty than any other country and you know nobody almost no time no i mean let me let me less than 2 years on there's an interesting to me patience leigh you know when i was to me here in time the county. they are around one quarter of the students can afford their lunch that's one quarter and if you times that proportion to the total population here in taiwan and tell me in fact and then why that's very low i'm telling you the fact that's not the facts that's the fact i am telling you the fact why don't you listen almost no time when he is live on less than $1.00 us dollars a day that's noble part out there that is that really you have a poverty that's growing all over the nation of poverty is different really my definition of what you are that is not know you right yes relative to every minute

yeah that's my definition and ubiquitous is my donation you live in so i do tell you if any student cannot afford their lunch then he's and his family is living in poverty that's my definition if it all goes wrong here in taiwan and she jinping loses patience and somebody says something they shouldn't say. and china looks as though it's moving towards an invasion would you fight for taiwan. or not lead to your ultimate loyalties lie mr cho loyal to our country the republic of china well loyal to our constitution you would you fight your show you yes yes yes if they violate our constitution to preserve and protect our people and defend our people i'll fight against china so she way you're going to have your own comfort zone thank you. as the x

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this is g.w. news live from berlin tonight one blow after another for britain's prime minister of parliament passing legislation that would make a no deal breaks it illegal to prime minister boris johnson coming out fighting but lawmakers have approved a bill that also delayed when the u.k. will leave the european union johnson says all of this will prevent him from threatening a no deal ports it includes negotiations with the european union also coming up hong kong's controversial extradition.