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from the business. express. destruction. of a. crisis or government corporate greed. selling out of a. dead donkey fear know what you know. start september 18th on d w. this is. coming up. on the verge of a genocide. down in the did region in its 6th week stunned accuses india of threatening the way of life people. germany if that really is the case.
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welcome to. it's good to have you with us and open jane that's how india security lockdown in its region of kashmir has been described now in its 6th week the lockdown has virtually cut off residents from the outside world the indian government says things are improving the geneticists of this lockdown has been uday his decision to strip the region off its constitutional autonomy baucus on has condemned the move leading to a war of words between both nations we come to that in a bit but 1st here's why the issue is so sensitive now india and pakistan came that entire region of means that the shaded in its entirety but control only parts of it india controls the valley and it is here where this lockdown has been imposed. in indy. in control are divided by what's called the line of control that's the
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line over here and this line also separates the armies of both nations and that's a brief historical background pakistan has been protesting the indian government's move and its latest criticisms what delivered at the un human rights council in geneva are should remind the word i shudder to mention the word genocide here but i must with respect to the genocide convention the kashmiri people in the occupied territory as the national economic racial and religious group of people faith grave threats did it through their lives we have living and livelihoods from a murderous misfortune mystic and sign up for weekly johansson in pakistan's ambassador to germany is with me in the studio for more welcome ambassador salim thank you genocide in kashmir isn't that a little too extreme well the fact is that a tragedy is unfolding there as we speak this is we will street oppression and
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i look at in the mass media every day there hasn't been a day since the 1st of august that i haven't seen a story and a story which has saddened me and a lot of the people i'm sure since saw this international media and by the way are also look at denton indian media he was in the indian meat media i see so many articles which are depicting the unfolding situation but no one is referring to it as a genocide i'm just asking you genocide is too extreme a description well i mean you know even if you don't get to dismantle its i mean the fact is that you see 3 dimensions to the situation there right now 1st of all there is the human rights. what is unfolding there and there have been a lot of statements on that on with the world and you know just the other day engine events well. there are human rights questions but. that's the 1st thing what is happening there you know like nobody can condone that
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there are 8000000 people who are locked down there's curfew and what is curfew curfew means you go out of your home and you'll be shot you know you could be shot dead then that telephones no internet happened in a kidney you imagine that happening in berlin or any other place in the world but the indian government say that the situation is slowly being restored to normal are they lying or that's not what i read in the newspapers intellect just a couple of days back i was reading in the in the in the media for a strong commentaries that can start just you know an act totally doubting that they need statements and i'm talking we're going to media not even into mass media the 2nd dimension of the problem is what the 2nd dimension of course a political dimension this is an international dispute jammu and kashmir is a disputed region. disputed territory between 2 countries. and when this dispute has been going on for the last 70 years it's a great international dispute others like to draw attention to the schimmel
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agreement of 1007 to 2 in which both india and pakistan agreed to resolve bilateral issues by letter lee how does this become an international issue all of a sudden is the symbol of human dead not at all in fact it's india which is trying to undermine jim lobe freeman because in sheer blank treatment i mean i've read the agreement many times. it clearly suggests that you know they are not allowed to change the status of all that territory which is under their creation and they're just saying that you know so ok similar to say the 2 sides are to talk and try to sort of solve it but it hasn't made a serious attempt at that there hasn't been a meaningful battle and in times of dispute even if it has to be result between 2 parties it's still an international dispute and it ted i mentioned that i was talking about that is the security dept i mention south asia is the most populous region in the world can be said to have nuclear powers and this type of dangerous situation tending between these 2 neighbors of these 2 nuclear neighbors it's very
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dangerous they could be a miscalculation as was the case a few months back you know what the situation was that some that your prime minister in iran can also mention there could be miscalculation and lead to nuclear war we have to discuss that as well but i must get a reaction from india into the program ambassador saloon if you will allow me i just like to remind our viewers that in fact inform them that we did reach out to the indian embassy here in berlin the president of the ambassador come on to our program but she unfortunately couldn't find the time she couldn't make time available for us however up here is what india had to say of the human rights council in geneva. one delegation here has given a running commentary with offensive dirty or false allegations and concocted charges against my country the world is a way that is fabricated negative comes from the epicenter of global terrorism where ringleaders are sheltered for years this country conducts crossword or terrorism as a form of alternate diplomacy. a form of alternate diplomacy an epicenter of global
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terrorism is that as well disclosure has been going on for years and you know if these words or mean anything anymore because. you see all those articles it into mass media the international press to all those international sort of electronic media is well they need media are they all lying you know like what the states says so these words now sound really horrible so pakistan is not the epicenter of global terrorism is what is what you're saying for the terrorism allegations don't mark isaan has been in the forefront of defeating global terrorism i mean our contribution in sort of defeating global terrorism it's very well known it's very very nice very well in plain sight i mean dropping a basket i mean if i guess i was doing such a fantastic job fighting terrorism why does the financial action task force which is a global watchdog on money laundering and terror financing putting pakistan on the green list and asking pakistan to get its name by october otherwise pakistan goes
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on the blacklist i mean there is a number of other things i have the state department mr prepared by the u.s. state department and it lists a number of terror organizations i can take a few names are a couple ones i have been just a moment. these are active in india and they are headquartered in islamabad and job and lahore. you see what you have done against such terrorist organizations of militant organizations struck me as for the world an effort here has its a watchdog it has to do its job unfortunately it's india with an f a t f because we are not a member of a p.f. indios and in fact india was co-chair and then what trying to politicize the matter they were trying to use it as an opportunity to undermine pakistan which is fame and fortune and so the f.f.t. if can be manipulated to smear or he's an engineer was an attempt to manipulate it and we hope it will not be manipulated and there were luck many countries in recent
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meetings which actually checked india's attempt to politicize it and do under because you know we are cooperating with the f a t f i mean this is for many many developing countries right i mean because this is not just against pakistan you know this is a global organization with a global agenda a focus on it on the list in 2000 it is well it was there has been 2000 yeah and we were out of the list as well and that last thing by the way those vote money laundering and money laundering still happened and so many countries and off the walls of these a common issues faced by many countries and we have to resolve them with active cooperation and pakistan has been cooperating with f a t f you know and we have a sanguine that pakistan would be out of the green list and china and india keep saying talks and telecom go hand in hand are we at the stage in which there is such a deadlock in ties between india and it is the way forward it makes me laugh to seriously you know what because the day when dick you spoke son of terrorism you
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know did have to look at this early times to be faced all the terrorism in britain just on in other parts of pakistan we had indian spies that could push and judge dave you know who a serving naval officer would who were basically must a mining terrorist operation in pakistan but they had asked august on to retract what was and earlier told that pakistan had not followed proper i think you're only asked pakistan for constant access we have which we have financial access and retrying him and i have done what it means i'm happy to take it out even more importantly than that i did the world the national security adviser. the national security adviser he's on record having made all the statements that well we have made pakistan bleed through all these actions in of the so-called policy of france of defense and what is that policy the police when he in and chips that the policy is basically you know like fomenting and helping supporting terrorism in pakistan look people talk about mumbai already but how would some go to express were all
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those culprits which sort of you know who were involved and that declared terrorist act against pakistanis in india one of them the freed sea it's a it's basically the world has stopped listening to that now because look even in this indian side of a union of about kashmir they're happening there's a lot of finger pointing that happened in india and by design we're both aware of that i just like to ask you the way forward i mean what would you suggest is the way forward that is practicable that can be implemented by both countries given that history is and the way diplomacy has potentially been working in the buzz for yes ok that's a good point what is the way forward 1st to for india has to you know basically have to adore these actions that they've take because this these actions. have plunged the region into a very dangerous situation that should be the starting point you know 1st of all left on the cuff if you know this curfew you know like resume this communication links that after that for draw all those sort of you know like because the special
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provisions to that that's what they're you know they should have a dialogue with those people in indian occupied kashmir is a and after that they should accept bucks once to do that a foreign minister is on record saying that after 5 to that we will send them basta back to india we will resume a dialogue with india and then the 2 sides have to sit you know and speaks it asli and in a meaningful way you know and with an open mind and i'm sure that you know like looked at the issues in the world that cannot be dissolved by a by dialogue in europe is such a big exam. but then you have to be seen as you have to be meaningful you have to be ready for give and take you know we could go on and on about this but we'll have to leave it there for the time being. best of a job and thank you so much for coming into the studio thank you. and be sure to head over to our web site get up to dot com. for more updates on the recent tensions between india and we're leaving now with pictures from the meltdown all the india controlled kashmir now in its 6th and so was it about.
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a lucrative market for american do saying yes but the trade conflict between washington and beijing is hurting business. welcome to do your business asia want to johnson but then good to have you with us so in a much anticipated policy meeting the european central bank has approved a fresh stimulus package for the euro zone the package includes a further cuts off the banks the positive rate now at a record low of minus 1.5 percent the e.c.b. also approved a new round of bond purchases of $20000000000.00 euros a month starting in november of both measures aimed to stimulate growth and push inflation to just under 2 percent that's the bank's target. let's just take a listen to what european central bank chief mario draghi had to say about why this move was necessary the outlook for real g.d.p.
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