this is. coming up. on the verge of a genocide. in the region in its 6th week. the way of life. germany is that really is the case. welcome to. it's good to have you with us and open. that's how india

security lockdown in its region of kashmir has been described now in its 6th week the lockdown has virtually cut off residents from the outside world the indian government says things are improving. of this lockdown has been decision to strip the region off its constitutional autonomy pakistan has condemned the move leading to a war of words between both nations we come to that in a bit but 1st here's why the issue is so sensitive that india and pakistan came to . me that the shaded in its entirety but control only parts of it india controls the valley and it is here where this lockdown has been imposed. on indian control are divided by what's called the line of control over here and this line also separates the armies of both nations and that's a brief historical background has been protesting the indian government's move and

its latest criticisms were delivered at the un human rights council in geneva. our should remind the word i shudder to mention the word genocide here but i must with respect to the genocide convention the people in the occupied territory as the national economic racial and religious group of people faith grave threat straight it to their lives we have living and livelihoods from a murderous massada mystic and zion afore we could jostle in pakistan's ambassador to germany is with me in the studio for more welcome ambassador salim thank you genocide in kashmir isn't that a little too extreme well the fact is that a tragedy is unfolding as we speak this is we will street oppression and i look at the international media every day there hasn't been a day since the 1st of august that i haven't seen a story and

a story which has saddened me and a lot of the people i'm sure since some of this international media and by the way are also look at the end of indian media even in the indian meat media i see so many articles which are depicting the unfolding situation but no one is referring to it as a genocide i'm just asking you genocide is too extreme a description well i mean you know even if you don't get to dismount takes i mean the fact is that you see the 3 dimensions to the situation there right now 1st of all this is the human rights angle what is unfolding there and there have been a lot of statements on that on what the world and you know just that the danger of events well. there are human rights question mission but. that's the 1st thing what is happening there you know like nobody can condone that the 8000000 people who are locked down there's a curfew and what is curfew curfew means you go out of your home and you'll be shot

you know you could be shot dead then they have telephones no internet coming in of the kidney you imagine that happening in berlin or any other place in the world but they didn't government say that the situation is slowly being restored to normal are they lying or that's not what i read in the newspapers you know like just a couple of days back i was reading in the in the in the in the media for a strong commentaries that can start just you know like totally doubting that they need statements and i'm talking ordained in media not even into mass media the 2nd dimension of the problem is what the 2nd dimension of of course a political dimension this is an international dispute jammu and kashmir is a disputed region. disputed territory between 2 countries. and can dispute has been going on for the last 70 years is to create an international dispute that is there to draw attention to the schimmel agreement of 1007 to 2 in which both india and pakistan agreed to resolve bilateral issues by letter lee how does this become an international issue all of

a sudden is the symbol of human dead not at all in fact it's india which is trying to undermine shimla agreement because in sheer blank treatment i mean i've read the agreement many times. it clearly suggests that you know they're not allowed to change the status of all that territory which is under their creation and i just think that you know so can simulate say that the 2 sides are to talk and try to resolve it but it hasn't made a serious attempt at that there hasn't been a meaningful title and in times of dispute even if it has to be a result between 2 parties it's still and class of dispute and it ted i mentioned that i was talking about that is the security dept i'm engine south asia is the most populous region in the world can be said to have nuclear powers and this type of dangerous situation tending between these 2 neighbors of these 2 nuclear neighbors it's very very dangerous there could be a miscalculation as was the case a few months back you know what the situation was that some that your prime minister in iran can also mention there could be a miscalculation

a need to nuclear war we have to discuss that as well but i must get a reaction from india into the program ambassadors and if you will allow me i just like to remind our viewers that in fact inform them that we did reach out to the indian embassy here in berlin the president of the ambassador come on to our program but she unfortunately couldn't find the time she couldn't make time available for us however up here is what india had to say of the human rights council in geneva. one delegation here has given a running commentary with offensive rhetoric or false allegations and concocted charges against my country the world is a way that is fabricated negative comes from the epicenter of global terrorism the ringleaders are sheltered for years this country conducts cross-word to terrorism as a form of alternate diplomacy. a form of alternate diplomacy in the center of global terrorism is that off as well discretion has been going on for hears and you know

if these words sort of mean anything anymore because. you see all those articles in the international media the international press to all those international sort of electronic media as well they mean media audio lying you know like what the states says so these words now sound really hollow so pakistan is not the epicenter of global terrorism is what is what you're saying for a little bit of medications don't matter sam has been in the forefront of defeating global terrorism i mean our contribution in sort of defeating global terrorism it's very well known it's very very nice very well i'm playing i'm sorry i mean dropping a basket i mean if you started doing such a fantastic job of fighting terrorism why does the financial action task force which is a global watchdog on money laundering and terror financing putting pakistan on the grey list and asking pakistan to get its name by october otherwise pakistan goes on the blacklist i mean there is a number of other things i have the state department list prepared by the u.s.

state department and it lists a number of terror organizations i can take a few names out a couple ones i have been gesture moment. these are active in india and they are headquartered in islamabad punjab and lahore. you see what you have done against such terrorist organizations or militant organizations 2nd as for the world an effort here has its a watchdog it has to do its job unfortunately it's india with an f a t f because we are not a member of here kiffin the o.c. and in fact india was co-chair and there were trying to politicize the matter they were trying to use it as an opportunity to undermine pakistan which is fighting unfortunately so the f.f.t. if can be manipulated to sear or he's an engineer was an attempt to manipulate it and we hope it will not be manipulated and that there were a lot many countries in recent meetings which actually checked india's attempt to politicize it and do and i'm because you know we are cooperating with the f.a.a.

t.f. i mean this is for many many developing countries right i mean because this is not just against pakistan you know this is a global organization with a global agenda a focus on it on the list in 2000 it is well it was there has been 2000 yeah and we were out of the list as well and that last thing by the way those both money laundering and money laundering still happened and so many countries and off the walls of these a common issues faced by many countries and we have to resolve them with active cooperation and back some has been cooperating with f a t f you know and we have a sanguine that buxom would be out of the green list in china and india keep saying talks and telecom go hand in hand are we at a stage in which there is such a deadlock in ties between india and it is the way forward it makes me laugh to seriously you know what because the day when dick you spoke son of terrorism and how did you have to look at this early times to be faced all the terrorism in baluchistan in other parts of pakistan we had indian spies the crew pushing just

dave you know who a serving naval officer would who were basically must a mining terrorist operation in pakistan but they had asked august on to retract what was and earlier told that pakistan had not followed proper i think you're only asked pakistan for constant access may have which you have privately access and retrying him and i have to do what it means i'm happy to keep it out even more importantly than that i did the world the national security adviser. the national security adviser he's on record having made all of the statements that well we have made bucks than bleed through all these actions and of the so called policy of france of defense and what is that policy the punishment he in and chips that the policy is basically you know like fomenting and helping supporting terrorism in pakistan look people talk about mumbai already but how would some go to express what well those culprits which sort of you know who were involved and that particular terrorist act against pakistanis in india one of them the freed sea it's

a it's basically the world has stopped listening to that now because look even in this indian side of a union of provide kashmir don't think there's a lot of finger pointing that happens you do in india and pakistan we're both aware of that i just like to ask you the way forward i mean what would you suggest is the way forward that is practicable that can be implemented by both countries given the histories and the way diplomacy has potentially been working in the bus or yes ok that's a good point what is the way forward 1st before india has to you know basically have to adore all these actions that they've take because this these actions. have plunged the region into a very dangerous situation that should be the starting point you know 1st of all lift on the curfew you know this curfew you know like resume this the communication links that after that draw all those sort of feel like because of the special provisions that that's what they're you know they should have a dialogue with those people in indian occupied kashmir is a and after that this should accept bucks once they do that

a foreign minister is on record saying that after 5 to that he would send us to back to india we would resume a dialogue with india and then the 2 sides have to sit you know and speak seriously and in a meaningful way you know and with an open mind and i'm sure that you know like looked at the issues in the world it cannot be dissolved by a by dialogue in europe is such a big exam. but then you have to be serious you have to be meaningful you have to be ready for give and take you know we could go on and on about this but we'll have to leave it there for the time being jostled by designs ambassador to germany thank you so much for coming into the studio thank you. and be sure to head over to our website did oprah dot com forward slash for more updates on the news and tensions between india and reliever now with pictures from the lock down all over india controlled kashmir now in its 6th.

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