everyone benefits from the business. creation. fundamental destruction starvation. selling out of the country donkeys fear. stored september 18th on d w. this is. coming up. on the verge of a genocide with a lot done in the region it's 6 week on accuses india of threatening the way of life of people. germany if that really is the case. welcome to. it's good to have you with us and open jail that's how india

security lockdown in its region of kashmir has been described now in its 6th week the lockdown has virtually cut off residents from the outside world the indian government says things are improving to geneticists of this lockdown has been new delhi's decision to strip the region off its constitutional autonomy pakistan has condemned the move leading to a wall of words between both nations we've come to that in a bit but 1st here's why the issue is so sensitive now india and pakistan came that entire region of kashmir that the shaded in its entirety but control only parts of it india controls the valley and it is here where this lockdown has been imposed. on indian control are divided by what's called the line of control that's the line over here and this line also separates the armies of both nations and that's. the

brief historical background pakistan has been protesting the indian government's move and its latest criticisms but delivered at the un human rights council in geneva i should remind the word i shudder to mention the word genocide here but i must with respect to the genocide convention the people in the occupied territory as the national economic racial and religious group of people faith grave threats to their lives way of living and livelihoods from a murderous. mystic and design of 40 could be jostling pakistan's ambassador to germany is with me in the studio for more welcome ambassador salim thank you genocide in kashmir isn't that a little too extreme well the fact is that a tragedy is unfolding there as we speak this is we will street oppression and i look at into mass media every day there hasn't been a day since the 5th of august that i haven't seen a story and

a story which has saddened me and a lot of the people i'm sure since i saw this international media and by the way are also look at them to indian media even in the indian meta media i see so many articles which are depicting the unfolding situation but no one is referring to it as a genocide i'm just asking you genocide is too extreme a description well i mean you know even if you don't get to dismantle its i mean the fact is that you see the 3 dimensions to the situation there right now 1st of all this is a human rights. what is unfolding there and there have been a lot of statements on that all over the world and you can just that the danger even spell but. there are human rights question michel but. that's the 1st thing what is happening there you know like nobody can condone that there that it 1000000 people were locked down there's curfew and what is curfew curfew means you court of your home and you'll be shot to you know you could be

shot dead then they have telephones no internet coming in of the kidney you imagine that happening in berlin or any other place in the world but the indian government says that the situation is slowly being restored global are they lying or are that's not what i read in the newspapers intellect just a couple of days back i was reading in there in the indian media for a strong common trees that can start just you know an act totally doubting that they need statements and i'm talking we're going to media not even into mass media the 2nd dimension of the problem is what the 2nd dimension of course a political dimension this is an international dispute jammu and kashmir is a disputed region. disputed territory between 2 countries. and when this dispute has been going on for the last 70 years is it really an international dispute i'd just like to draw attention to the schimmel agreement of 1007 to 2 in which both india and pakistan agreed to resolve bilateral issues by letter lee how does this become an international issue all of

a sudden is the symbol of human dead not at all in fact it's india which is trying to undermine shimla agreement because in sheer blank treatment i mean i've read the agreement many times it clearly suggests that you know they're not allowed to change the status of all that territory which is under their creation and they're just saying that you know so ok similar states the 2 sides have to talk and try to resolve it but it hasn't made a serious attempt at that there hasn't been a meaningful tallow and international dispute even if it has to be a result between 2 parties it's still and class a dispute and it ted i mentioned that i was talking about that is the security dam dam engine south asia's the most populous region in the world can be said to have nuclear powers and this type of dangerous situation pinning between these 2 neighbors of these 2. neighbors it's very dangerous there could be a miscalculation was the case a few months back you know what the situation was that some that you know prime minister iran can also mention there could be a miscalculation

a need to nuclear war we have to discuss that as well but i must get a reaction from india into the program ambassador saloon if you will allow me i just want to remind our viewers that in fact inform them that we did reach out to the indian embassy here in berlin the president of the ambassador come on to our program but she unfortunately couldn't find the time she couldn't make time available for us however up here is what india had to say of the human rights council in geneva. one delegation here has given not running commentary with offensive rhetoric or false allegations and concocted charges against my country the world is a way that this fabricated narrative comes from the epicenter of global terrorism the ringleaders i sheltered for years this country conducts crossword or terrorism as a form of alternate diplomacy. a form of alternate diplomacy and percent of global terrorism is that off as well discretion has been going on for years and you know

if these words sort of mean anything anymore because. you see all those articles in the international media the international press to all those international sort of electronic media is well they in the media are they all lying you know like what the states says so these words now sound really hollow so pakistan is not the epicenter of global terrorism is what is what you're saying for the terrorism allegations don't mark reason has been in the forefront of defeating global terrorism i mean our contribution in sort of defeating global terrorism is very well known it's very very nice very well in plain sight i mean dropping a basket i mean if you started doing such a fantastic job fighting terrorism why does the financial action task force which is a global watchdog on money laundering and terror financing putting pakistan on the great list and asking pakistan to get its name bio otherwise pakistan goes on the blacklist i mean there is a number of other things i have the state department list prepared by the u.s.

state department and it lists a number of terror organizations i can take a few names are a couple ones i have been just a moment. these are active in india and they are headquartered in islamabad and job and lahore. you see what you have done against such terrorist organizations or militant organizations struck me as for the world an effort here has it's a watchdog it has to do its job unfortunately those can give within f a t f because we are not a member of a p.f. indios and in fact india was co-chair and then what trying to politicize the matter they were trying to use it as an opportunity to undermine pakistan which is fighting and functioning so the f.f.t. if can be manipulated to say or he's an engineer was an attempt to manipulate it and we hope it will not be manipulated and to do a lot many countries in recent meetings which actually checked india's attempt to politicize it and do and i'm because you know we are cooperating with the f.a.a.

t.f. i mean this is for many many developing countries right i mean because this is not just against pakistan you know this is a global organization with a global agenda a focus on and on the list in 2000 it is well it was there has been 2000 yeah and we were out of the list as well and that last time by the way those both money laundering and money laundering still happened and so many countries and off the walls of these a common issues faced by many countries and we have to resolve them with active cooperation and pakistan has been cooperating with f a t f you know and we have a sanguine that pakistan would be out of the greylisting china and india keep saying talks and telecom go hand in hand are we at the stage in which there is such a deadlock in ties between india and it is the way forward it makes me laugh since you know what because the day when day accused pakistan of terrorism you know didn't have to look at this early times to be faced all the terrorism in baluchistan in other parts of pakistan we had indian spies they could push and

judge dave you know who a serving naval officer would who were basically must a mining terrorist operation in the dark something but they had i thought they are august on to retract what was and earlier told the pakistan have not followed proper i think you're only asked pakistan for constant access we have which we have final access and trying him they all have the judgment with me so i'm happy to take it out even more importantly than that i did the world the national security adviser. the national security advisor has a record having made all the statements that well we have made pakistan bleed through all these actions and of the so called policy of france of defense and what is that policy the punishment he in and chips that the policy is basically you know like fomenting and helping supporting terrorism in pakistan look people talk about mumbai always but how it some don't express were all those culprits which sort of you know who were involved and that particular terrorist act against pakistanis in india one of them the freed sea it's

a it's basically the world has stopped listening to that now because look even in this indian side of a union of a passionate happening there's a lot of finger pointing that happens you can indent by design you're both aware of that i'd just like to ask you the way forward i mean what would you suggest is the way forward that is practicable that can be implemented by both countries given the history is and the way diplomacy has potentially been working in the bus or yes ok that's a good point what is the way forward 1st before india has to you know basically have to adore all these actions that they've take because this these actions. have plunged the region into a very dangerous situation that should be the starting point you know 1st of all lift on the cliff you know this curfew you know like resume this communication links that after that to draw all those sort of like because the special provisions that that that's what they're you know they should have a dialogue with those people in indian occupied kashmir is a and after that they should accept bucks once they do that

a foreign minister is on record saying that after 5 to that we will send a master back to india we will resume a dialogue with india and then the 2 sides have to sit you know and speak seriously and in a meaningful way you know and with an open mind and i'm sure that you know like you know that door issues in the world that cannot be dissolved by a by dialogue in europe is such a big exam. but then you have to be seen as you have to be meaningful you have to be ready for give and take you know we could go on and on about this but we'll have to leave it there for the time being. thank you so much for coming into the studio thank you. and be sure to have it with the upside of the dot com. for more updates on the recent tensions between india and we leave you now with pictures from the all over india now in its 6th thanks for watching.

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want to get johnson but they're good to have you with us so in a much anticipated policy meeting the european central bank has approved a fresh stimulus package for the euro zone the package includes a further cuts off the banks the positive rate now at a record low of minus 1.5 percent the e.c.b. also approved a new round of bond purchases of $20000000000.00 euros a month starting in november a both measures aimed to stimulate growth and push inflation to just under 2 percent that's the bank's target. let's just take a listen to what european central bank chief mario draghi had to say about why this move was necessary the outlook for rio g.d.p. growth has been revised down 420192020. there is some.