sure it has been 6 years since he became the world's best known whistle blower blowing the lid off america's secret surveillance what edward snowden did forever changed our world including his own for 6 years he's lived in exile in russia and now as his new book goes on sale edward snowden is preparing to move tonight i'll ask his attorney will snowden ever be able to go home or will it have to be germany where he writes his next chapter in berlin this is the day. ultimately i will suffer whatever the consequences are of my chance with profit mr snowden should return to the united states in face the serious crimes that with which he's been charged all of these things are being tracked intercepted. there's

been indexed into a sort of surveillance to they want to whom you're trying instead of you know i don't thing mr snowden was a patriot i believe the statements like that they said this was to free press this was the crimes that he's accused of committing are serious unfortunately it turns out that not all the statements that were made were upset what you would find children what should they do if they want to ensure the internet will never be used against them to learn magic. also coming up the drone attacks that crippled saudi arabia's oil production who the rebels in yemen say they did it the u.s. is blaming iran accusations aplenty what's missing is the proof. at the moment with still assessing what happened and who is responsible for the attacks once this is being stepped least we will discuss with our partners how to proceed new

responsible manner we hope to be united international response to these from the tank. and so you our viewers on p.b.s. in the united states and all around the world welcome but we begin the day with whistleblower edward snowden his new book and his not so new wish to go home in 2013 snowden became a household name around the world when he smuggled top secret computer files from the us government and leaked them to reporters how and why he did that is not what you're really learned in his new book permanent record goes on sale tomorrow and it is more about edward snowden the boy the gamer the young man and less about snowden the whistleblower the traitor some say the patriot they others snowden does not give a lot of insight into his life in russia either where he has lived in exile for 6 years in a moment i'll speak with his lawyer about snowden's wish to go home but 1st how

a u.s. whistleblower ended up one of russia's most famous residents if we do now perhaps forever. more to remember who we are no longer allowed. to forget it happened to create that system it's my greatest regret these are the words edward snowden chose to promote his memoir us pen and record. in 2013 snowden was working as a contractor for the n.s.a. the national security agency in interviews he said he became disillusioned with the work and had ethical concerns with the massive government surveillance programs he was working on. later that year snowden stole

a trove of classified documents from the n.s.a. and leaked them to international journalists this was later dramatized in the film snowden. by the time the 1st articles based on the files were published snowden had fled to hong kong. the leaked information revealed how governments were using the online lives and devices of ordinary citizens to track listen to and take a video of them they could also read emails and text messages and it wasn't just used to catch the bad guys. they're using the will these intentional to store the public of vital embarrassing story by this i mean they're using the tools of mass surveillance not to find terrorists but to find the sources of journalists journalists who have written stories that were embarrassing to the government. but his adversaries claim that he recklessly dumped classified files which had

consequences like disclosing military secrets to america's enemies my case since the revelations this reason i wouldn't has been living in exile and russia the u.s. wants him extradited on espionage charges. as we believe that under any circumstances mr snowden should return to the united states and face the serious crimes that with which he's been charged we believe that he should. return to united states and face them rather than seeking refuge in the arms of an adversary of the united states that has their own strategic interest in disseminating harmful . or disseminating information in a harmful way snowden denies having collaborated with the russian government he now has a russian residency permit until 2020 and lives at an undisclosed address in moscow . will a man who has been connected to snowden from the beginning of this story joins me tonight robert timbo is snowden's lawyer and he is one of the people that snowden

credits with saving his life mr devoe joins me tonight from the city of halifax in nova scotia canada mr jaber welcome to the day i want to ask you about something that snowden said earlier today on the u.s. network c.b.s. . and he said that the publication of his new book is leading germany and france to ask should we give snowden asylum is this new book is it part of your client's plan to ask for asylum here in germany. well just to clarify in in 2013 when mr snowden departed from hong kong and in transit through moscow he stopped. short he had applied for asylum in about 21 countries around the world from the mountain state in terms one of them. and france was one of them and also asylum requests were rejected. at this time mr

snowden's made one particular asylum application to france. and in terms of germany. mr snowden. has made it very clear over the years that you know i think if he's given the opportunity he would he would like to even germany to live in germany now understanding. mr snowden house to land on german soil. and you have to do so directly. so as it stands then tonight mr snowden has asked for asylum in france and there is no asylum request that has gone out to germany as of yet correct as far as i'm aware that's ok. the suggestion that snowden could leave russia and live here in europe i mean it's not new 4 years ago i asked

snowden about reports that germany could suffer geo politically if it crossed the u.s. by granting him asylum here is what he told me that. germany is for all intents and purposes the leader of the year. democracy they're strong they're strong economy did they have a point well established tradition of defending individual rights but do you not think it were that they would be germany the leaders of germany do you not think that they fear that there would be real and serious consequences for for the government and for the security of germany if they did if they were to grant you a song i don't think so no i'm sure they. communicated through both official channels and unofficial channels but i mean these are separate politicians we're

talking about and merkel she's not some some new person who's never seen this kind of international. image of the german chancellor angela merkel i mean she's due to step down in 2021 so there would be time if he wanted to contact someone in her government is it just the the asylum law that is getting in the way or is it because of the political sentiment in the country well it's a combination of both. angela merkel the. german. or our government has. asked is quite clear logically. our governments are. landing on short term soil. we see. another germany. another. clearly

mr snowden's take the situation the german government like any other government. and even what how our. invite to germany. i and expressed doubts. does not. he asked how. he got teased that he would be arrested and he would not face extradition proceedings the united states extradition. and that he'd be able to remain in germany as president. so there are ways. to come to germany. and simply quote. on a mr golden hour stage doesn't. own a will to do it but also what you're saying here it would also require germany to violate the extradition agreement that it has with the united states because we

know that snowden wants to go home to the united states but if that is not possible europe does seem to be his best alternative i want you to take a listen to what members of the european parliament have been say recent scandals such as decent gate blocks leaks in the bottom up papers or cambridge i don't know if you were to not have come to light without the coverage of missile blowers. we now have a manual for lawful whistle blowing i think it was time for us to develop it. now and. she misha if mr snowden had to be in european he would not be exiled in a little dutch in moscow. a little dutch in moscow i mean mr de do you agree with those members of parliament here in europe that snowden would have been treated differently had he been a european whistleblower instead of an american one.

i mean cold case rests on its own facts. you just nationally only there's the geopolitical. i guess conflict appen germany. is mr snow on. you're a tree clearly. if you generally are treated differently because he didn't i'm one he would have rights to enter into the european union adventure. nationality not in a way that he'd. no more significant rights than as an american. for example in moscow an extradition issue but as an american you are right europe again. legally. in very difficult situations no it's what applied for requests extradition and political again with the current

administration on that they're not. there so it appears yes she would be treated differently. this year. this year the european union lawmakers here they agreed on the whistleblower directive which protects whistleblowers may say was inspired by. your client this law reads if the whistleblower could not find suitable internal reporting channels he or she can contact the relevant authorities or even go public did mr snowden did he trying to find suitable contacts inside the in this way before he leaked classified material. yes he did and there's. 2 sets of facts. mr snow didn't reach oh he didn't say go

charlie in the us government. then the n.s.a. . you know crushing the situation. and at the same time those internal mechanisms. so-called internal systems. are not the conditions that. i'm heart more i describe the united nations in a special tomorrow. counterterrorism and human rights are. described in a newspaper you mentioned also in 2008 some united states. thing letter. as it's not would provide protection to mr 2nd insurance route it was a war zone that states some restrictions. and those who try and case after case you somehow treat. the best examples i don't know the obama and

strengthen there's never been more whistleblowers charged or prosecuted or. instructions then and all u.s. history when mr to. know if if i could let me just ask you can the new yorker reported today that mr snowden has claimed that he alerted more than 10 officials at the n.s.a. about what he discovered and yet he has not provided any support for this claim why is that let's dinner and supper snowden's discussion he's written about i not the one but why not say one that provide the proof and say i did try to solve this internally before i leaked or he did do. and what you're asking is why hasn't snow disclosed all right. full disclosure i can't. you know that's at the discretion of mr snowden's under legal

advice particular. so again there's no need significant disclosures. you know his history. and the circumstances he was in the cia on and his reasons for hating the soviets. at this point this is as far as you know snowden's comfortable squashed disclosing on our i'm sure. you may decide to you. mr let me ask you we all know that every snowden lives right now in russia in his book he writes that when he arrived in russia he was met by his seemed russian secret service agents who told him that a man in his situation could use some friends how can the world be sure that russia has not used your client or access to classified information via him how can we know oh for us all mr snowden didn't bring any classified

information with him when he left off and that's that's a public record. and i was there. i was with mr money love therefore. it was not entering it and any any date or mission any date information we've already been asked to journalists. again which is a public record and any other being you know was actually did you know destroy discarded and destroy. and in terms of. now is a row russia. oh of course the government now channel security to the approach. is. there. was also.

discussion not. to. rush or any time they're not. ok mr unfortunately we're out of time robert the attorney for us was a blower edward snowden mr jaber we appreciate your time and your insights and answers tonight thank you very much. oil prices soared today the 1st reaction on markets following 2 drone attacks on saudi arabian oil facilities over the weekend the strikes cripple saudi arabia's productions which means overnight a glow a drop in global crude output by 5 percent today u.s. president trump hinted at a military retaliation the u.s. and saudi arabia they have blamed iran for the strikes but have not provided proof who the rebels in yemen say they were responsible. yes.

and the attacks in saudi arabia were the result of this 5 year war against defenseless people which is the root of the regions and security. investigation is continuing and all evidence and indications of other weapons used in the terrorist attacks came from iran. all right are these drone attacks enough to ignite a military conflict to talk about that i'm joined here at the big table by a middle east analyst marcus because marcus it's good to see you again saudi arabia now saying that the weapons in those attacks came from iran how credible do you think that claim is the claim isn't credible until the point that saudi arabia puts proof on the table that they actually didn't come from yemen as the who things claim but that they came from iran or another country in the region which is not

yemen but until that point it's pure speculation to say it did not come from yemen so what we're looking for is hard for of on the table for the world to see that's what we need the saudis will have a visit from the united states from secretary of state pump alle the saudis have asked for u.n. investigations which is a rare thing remember a year ago john. was killed in the stumble in the saudi consulate there and the saudis didn't want any cooperation of any kind with international organizations so maybe they have proof but we don't know yet you know it's interesting how the response is dramatically different from the death of mr. shogi i'd like to talk about the fallout from these drone attacks in just a moment but 1st we've got a report on how drawings were used to cripple salty arabian oil production take a look. these oil tanks are exhibit a as the world tries to assess who was

responsible for attacks on saudi facilities they show almost identical impact points which u.s. officials say indicate a high degree of sophistication in the attack. the rebels in saudi arabia's neighbor yemen and initially seemed to take responsibility they've been fighting the saudis and their proxy forces for years in yemen civil war. but some analysts doubt whether the rebels could have launched drones or missiles that could hit the saudi tanks yemen is also to the south of the saudi refineries the impact site suggest an attack from the north or northwest the direction of iraq and the who these strong backers iran secretary of state mike pompei of said the u.s. would make sure quote iran is held accountable for its aggression and his boss president donald trump took to twitter to threaten those responsible he tweeted there is reason to believe that we know the culprit we are locked and loaded depending on verification but are waiting to hear from the kingdom. but iran

deflected blame. we reject these types of statements and projections. the islamic republic of iran has clearly declared that it supports the people of yemen and their rights but to accuse the islamic republic of iran with these attacks and defensive measures is in line with the united states maximum falshood policy they've adopted after their own failures has. oil prices spiked as traders start to take account of saudi arabia's seeming inability to defend its crucial oil infrastructure and governments including germany's have condemned the attack but it's unclear what the long term picture looks like everything depends on what the us and other players do next to calm or aggravate the situation in one of the world's most volatile regions. yeah i mean it's a region that is even more volatile deny it when you consider you've got iranian sabur rattling in the strait of hormuz you've got the failed state that we call

libya and the problems there. you've got these latest drone attacks all of these things coming together are probably go on they're not going away and now we're looking at higher oil prices so we're talking about the global economy now cannot escape the middle east jube agree with that statement it's back to the middle east crisis which we know from the seventy's from the ninety's where the oil fires plays a big role and you've mentioned iran and the united states which are into many proxy wars in the region and now this spillover oath the yemen war into saudi territory in this dimension definitely has a lot of potential for the escalation and things of change that quickly you know last week we were talking about a possible breakthrough and. in the fridge in times phrase and relations between iran and the united states there was talk about rouhani and trump maybe meeting at the u.n. general assembly later this month there was talk the u.s.

president even easing sanctions on iran john bolton was fired as his national security adviser all that had last week and now we have these attacks and he's changed everything what do you make of that. let's see what's going to happen next week in new york you never know with trump you see the iranians in a weak position which could use the fact that the world markets need more oil and which they could use to jump in which is not likely with trump but i think there is still the possibility of not complete escalation but to get both sides close on the table because don't forget the iranian foreign minister was at the g 8 summit in france yes france is a player which is not to be forgotten and maybe france could use its contacts in iran to find a settlement which is not a complete military you see usually that is happening before there is a full fledged military conflict happening president trump tonight said that he has time that they have a lot of time and i think to bring in the u.n.

to look for a thorough investigations into this case is the time which the u.s. has if at the end of this investigations they find out that there is clear evidence that this was an iranian attack all things on the table as drums that writes middle east analyst a man whose bickel is always markers we appreciate your insights thank you very much thank you. well the day is almost done the conversation continues online you'll find us on twitter either at u.w. news or you can follow me at brant got kenyan forgets to feed the hash tag the day when he writes you me remember whatever happens between now and then tomorrow is another day we'll see you then if.

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