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. we visit the heroes of eastern europe. we talk to those who began the struggle for freedom and those who showed personal courage. in the fall of the wall didn't surprise me usually the 1st what does it take to change the course of history. raising the iron curtain starts september 30th on d w. as far as society is concerned we don't exist we're sort of invisible many people don't even know what this is christiane might have on is intersexual neither male nor female when he was young he had surgery to make him a girl the doctors had advised his parents to raise him to be a woman. he feels like

a man and he wants to know exactly what happened back then and why. because dan's gender isn't clearly defined but he wants to be seen as a man he works out at a fitness studio almost every day. so his. can i use the butterfly machine look at going to. the surgical reconstruction to make girl made his self-esteem plummet. in this with me this is the fitness means so much to me because for a long time until puberty actually i hated myself i never accepted myself and it was only with the help of weight training and fitness that i learned to love myself

. now it's like an addiction i really enjoy. it have a. as a kid i had so many idols i saw arnold schwarzenegger in a magazine and all the movie stars so bester stallone and so on but i was totally fascinated by their a static in all their muscles and i thought to myself hey i'd like that for myself just imagine getting bullied teased and even beaten as a child you lose respect for yourself. so that this was a one on like that up to a certain age i've been doing this for 6 years now 4 years consistently and it's really taken a long time i'm no arnold schwarzenegger but my life's dream would be to compete on stage one day. a few minutes into. this from the ones out there for i think we need to deal with this whole topic more openly and easily there are only strictly males or females who are also many stages

in between there are different chromosomal nuances i guess you could call it where it's not just x x or an x. y. chromosome people need to see that nature didn't limit itself to those too. because deone carries the mail x. y. chromosomes but when he was born his gender wasn't clearly identifiable no penis no cleverest the doctors adapted his external anatomy to the female gender now he lives as a man and likes to ride his motorcycle. it's almost like flying it's pure freedom because i can't describe the feeling it's nothing like driving a car when you're boxed in you really feel totally free it's like freedom on 2 wheels. as a mom to me my motorcycle is like a woman we're practically married or engaged to be precise. her name is bettina and she's in my favorite colors red and black nativity i love her and she loves me.

and. yes it is very sure i'd love to have a proper family with a wife and kids and grandkids and everything that goes along with it who wouldn't like to see a mini version of themselves. but sadly i can't because of that operation back then that really makes me furious they destroyed my life. but why that's what christiane wants to know why did the doctors turn him into a girl when he was only one year old he calls the surgeon who performed the operation. hi this is mr moldovan asking for a doctor. i used to be a patient of hers. and i'd like to make an appointment with her to talk. kristin lives with his parents near stock got this is the 1st time in 28 years

they've ever talked about what really happened back then when he was born. over the frog his mama wants to know if it was a boy or a girl and the doctor just said we don't know and i said what do you mean you don't know that can't be he said they couldn't tell yet it could be one or the other it could be a boy because he has male sex organs but it could be a girl because the organs are not external they just didn't know they'd have to have the baby examine further. dialogue. in the their bodies have been missing for so long on the wires that. you were such a handsome little boy and to be honest i'm so sorry it pains me to this day that i gave my consent if only our doctor had said leave the boy the way he is but i consented they cut you up it's my fault and i'll take that to the grave i'm sorry about it now the doctor promised us you'd grow up to be

a happy girl. she guaranteed it. made you think that it was god only you know one done it and then when you were 13 we discovered what they told us in the reports wasn't right at all but they were the ones who had operated or you could have known all i could see was what they'd written down the report said a vagina was present but no. later they realized it was the prostate gland not a vagina. now imagine i consented to what else they wanted to do they wanted to expand the vagina with this device if they'd done that with your you rethrow you might have been dead by now. when he was just a year old christiane was operated on by a doctor in to bring in now she works and. i'm going to the clinic and

it's actually a children's clinic but that's where the doctor who operated on me works the one who messed up my life. who. i want to confront her and try to find out why she did that back there. why she operated on me and maybe she'll be able to answer a few other questions too. in germany doctors perform about $700.00 cosmetic operations per year on children sexual organs often one child has to undergo several procedures so the actual number of children affected is unknown. i hope i'm able to make peace with myself to some extent and that i don't lose my cool when i facing her. i just wish she'd apologize for what she's done. that would be the very least.

we weren't allowed to film the conversation between christiane and his former doctor for quote various reasons we were told the surgeon also refused to respond to the questions we submitted in writing after 2 hours christiane re-emerges from the clinic. going to premier is not happy at all with the way the conversation went i didn't feel comfortable and she didn't really answer all my questions especially not the question why. all she said was things like well that's just how things were back then or that's how we practiced medicine back then we couldn't do anything about it. but that just sounds like an excuse to me. it doesn't justify her actions against me at that time. but one good thing was that she at least apologized to me i thought that was great and it was a different one this would be i wouldn't have thought she'd apologized to me just like that but she remained very professional and cool to both of. she didn't

respond emotionally. and she did say she could relate to my situation but for me personally that didn't really come across it was only. when he was 14 himself decided to have his understanding testes removed so he could feel more like a real girl that was 3 years after his father had told him he was intersexual. why didn't you tell me that earlier i always told you that i sense something wasn't

right with me but i was different why didn't you tell me earlier. just because they told us to raise you was a girl we didn't know how so we just tried our best smidgens with c.n.n. vodka didn't we didn't want to confront you with those thoughts or make you sad but it was pretty hard on your brother he was embarrassed to explain to his friends the way things really were. his friends would have just lost the 10 it was heartening to know that so it was for me too yes it was hard i kept asking myself what my classmates would say that's why i chose to have my testicles cut out i didn't want to stand out i just wanted to be normal and fit in and i thought i'd fit in if i just stuck with the identity of the doctors had assigned to me back then. yes is that what it's your life. you have to think positively others have it much harder. i almost jumped off the bridge back then in 7th grade. i just couldn't go on so we've always had our problems been sad had our fights but i'm not we could tell

that you weren't developing like a real girl. your problem was you didn't tell any of the family it was a taboo and we were ashamed and we were ashamed period. so you were ashamed of me of the way i am not off you we were ashamed that we wanted to protect you because in your world your society that was unhealthy so that if our day you just didn't talk about those things the way you do today about everything i didn't want them to make fun of you. if they did anyway whether they knew about it or not they made fun of me anyway and they hit me they teased me and they humiliated me yes that was a mistake. i just bottled up inside and didn't say anything and that made things even worse and we made a mistake and if you had said anything at that time but they were always people who would have understood you not just today back then too back then too but we were wrong are you blaming me and your mother for the decisions we made back then.

when i was younger i did i couldn't stop asking myself why you would make that decision as i got older i realized it hurts you as much as it hurts me and pointing the finger doesn't get us anywhere it just breeds more resentment i know you couldn't help it if anyone is to blame it's the doctors but i don't blame you anymore. on the 77 percent we talk about big issues. nice way some way behind bars. is innocent but. he spent 2 years pretrial detention. tell us human rights group helped him get.

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