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the demanding that their leaders do something to prevent climate change the answer to that call today's united nations climate summit and that is the good news the bad news a new report shows that global warming is happening faster than predicted the time to stop it just got a lot shorter i'm burnt off in berlin this is the day. to ask you. you have still been my dream since my childhood which your and she writes can see the last few times july the hottest months ever people are suffering people are dying late should always strikes back and around the world make sure you striking back at least shooting we are in the beginning of extinction simply you can talk about peace and money you can tell on economic growth. if you.
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also coming up who in europe will take in the migrants from across the mediterranean the european union has a new plan to share the load a change that cannot come soon enough for. this well in arrivals is due in part to the former italian government's policy of refusing port to the rescue vessels that save migrants in the mediterranean this has made multiple the closest safe harbor to the north african coast. our viewers on p.b.s. in the united states and all around the world welcome we begin the day with even less time to save the world as we know it a new u.n. report released today warns that climate change is accelerating the last 5 years have been the 5 warmest on record and scientists say if that trend continues the own. only way to mitigate global warming will be to take the goals in the paris
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climate agreement and basically triple them where young people at the start of the u.n. climate summit today admonished adults for not doing enough to protect the planet and for delivering what they say are just empty words now in stark contrast today leaders from germany to new zealand to india announced plans to rejuvenate efforts to reduce greenhouse gases noticeably absent in this mix the united states i just wonder is there any point to this climate change summit is global summit if the u.s. one of the biggest polluters is doesn't bother to show up. no i don't think this is wasted i just hoped something good will come out of it i hope it will have a good outcome but we also have to prepare ourselves for the worst and and
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continue even though if it has a bad outcome we are determined to show the new zealand can and will be the most sustainable food producer in the world over the next 5 years we will collaborate to build systems that every family will be able to use to measure manage and reduce their own farms emissions judgement germany sees its responsibility on the global stage and the national stage. internationally we will increase our funding for global climate protection from 2 to 4000000000 u s. oh boy. we believe that. an ounce operate these each one of them more of them are reaching new divil goodwin here as heads of state and government must work together to respond more quickly we need to stick with the paris agreement and remain true to
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its goals for me to fix it subject. well my 1st guest tonight says it is still possible to prevent the worst of global warming with the help of artificial intelligence in his new book solomon's code humanity in a world of thinking machines olof growth writes that ai will enable us for the 1st time to improve humanity with no 0 sum game of growth is a professor at holt international business school and he is the c.e.o. of cambrian futures which describes itself as a global network of fault leaders and mr growth is here with us tonight at the big table it's good to see you again it's are you reading your book you provide a positive message especially when we apply it to the negative outlook on climate change that we got today how will artificial intelligence really help us solve this climate crisis yeah look i think we are clearly addicted to high growth in the economy and we are addicted to
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a carbon based economy we need to change the model of growth that requires cutting deals between the various stakeholders which is really what's holding up more progress on climate change mitigation that's a complex off the musician problem ai especially in conjunction or in combination with quantum computing can help us optimize deals so we can both optimize for climate mitigation given given his brilliance and example is the bit on the table what what would be something tangible something tangible for instance would be how do we design mobility services for car companies that employ a lot of people especially in germany or in the united states right how do we sell more of something which is mobility and retain maximum employment by these car by these are makers right that's a non-trivial problem and it's a problem that's going to affect countries like the u.s. and germany harder when you know as we move forward i want you to take a listen to what one of the climate activists told a u.s.
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congressional committee last week about climate change and they were going to talk about that i can't wait until i'm sitting in your seats to change the climate crisis you have to use the seat that you have now because by the time i get there it's going to be way too late. the good news is that experts agree that there are multiple pathways to decarbonize the united states energy system and that doing so is both technologically and economically viable and beneficial. she's you know she's she has faith in the future. and so do you but let me play devil's advocate here if artificial intelligence is helping is how do you explain the u.n. report that we got today that says global warming is actually accelerating it's happening faster than we thought it was just you know 6 months ago you know it's very unfortunate but it's unfortunately also not a real surprise because climate scientists have always said that what's unknown to us are the tipping points in the earth's systems and that we could actually be. that we could actually be walking toward an abyss on on c
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o 2 levels much more quickly than we think because our normal models are not able to capture those tipping points and i think clearly that's what's been happening if it's 3 times as fast as ai quantum computing can help us model these complex systems of systems in the earth's atmosphere and the earth systems to get to those tipping point but that means that it's going to have to be faster then the schedule as it is of reaching the abyss right that's right and now that is the advantage of ai in quantum computing that they can calculate complex an hour is much more quickly than humans can let alone complex constellations of multi stakeholders that all have financial interests right yeah i mean you've got you've got companies that were going to reach that level i mean because a lot of the i guess the doomsday fears out there will say that it's just too late and there's nothing that can be done to stop this process that was started decades ago yeah i think we need to clearly get many more scientists and businesspeople and
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engineers around exactly this climate change mitigation problem with ai rather than spending that energy on selling more stuff and figuring out how we can trigger people to consume more right right and that's a business model issue we've got incentivize these experts yeah that's a good thing that's what gratitude. today was saying you know these dreams of eternal growth now you people have to wake up and realize that reality that's right you are in berlin this week and we were talking earlier you said that you met with the government of german chancellor angela merkel to discuss it here in germany what did you tell the government what they had met with the people at her office and elsewhere in the government and quite frankly i think the heads on the right place everybody wants to make progress there is a germany i strategy and we can talk endlessly noble over whether it's an optimum strategy and the other day you've got to get onto that path of executing and that is where germany is having trouble there is money dedicated but progress is very slow because there is lots of bureaucratic legal commercial hurdles to be taken and germany fall of its expertise and probably is unfortunately not very agile not very
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forgiving an example where we do you see the biggest stunted growth or progress in ai in germany well you know we have on trivial town we have scientific talent and we have money and yet it is seems to be impossible to get all 3 together to create scalable large scale ventures because in ai and data scale size actually does matter and so we have to scale up and for some reason germany has always had problems with few notable exceptions such as s. and p. and some other companies to scale these large digital companies so we have to break through that and figure out how to overcome these and that means less red tape less red tape i think you know greater embrace of data sharing greeting data pools creating some governance around that but at the end of the day making sure that everybody can tap into those data pools and the compute power that's necessary you know that's necessary the internet of things i think as it's known in german industry $4.00 it we're told is just around the corner we're told is just
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around the corner as soon as we get 5 g. networks and running right which we don't have right now i want you to take a listen to what they are saying about 5 she. this week. which currently all the equipment to stand alone which means all the content is safe locally it's not saved in the cloud. later on with the development of 5 g. all the content will be in the cloud so that the cost of the hardware can be lowered and the content can be made in better quality. fish and more content and better looking. that's the benefits being brought by 5 g. . now that caught our attention because there he is in china the chinese electronics show and he is predicting this perfect future world made possible by 5 g. but this kind of future and you and i both know this it will really depend on who
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makes the 5 g. possible right now that's correct and i think we need to be very careful who builds this infrastructure of our future digital and data economy because that's that's going to be the backbone on which the society and the economy operate right yeah and you know for example this company right here who way did the german government did they did they talk about that today because there there are concerns here as well as in other countries in the european union about how much kuwait do you allow in well it's a very tricky problem because there are a lot of german companies that actually rely on while way equipment in order to run their businesses including telecom companies and they can't wait for some political decision to be to be taken yet i am very suspicious because the chinese government has been very clear in articulating that it has access to all data going through chinese networks and so the question is can we develop technologies that trace what actually happens to european or american data on her way equipment networks and
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your suspicion is yes beijing can yes beijing can whether they do at any given point in time is to decide for cyber experts and the courts but i personally would be very very. very hesitant and if germany or if the u.k. if they say listen we can't wait any longer for the technology we have to buy some of it from who way they're making it though they're making a decision that goes beyond infrastructure it's a political decision and in your opinion is it also a national security decision it's a national security decision for sure i do believe that we have to have secure networks we can do without that i think we do need to source those from companies that are trustworthy some of these are western companies ericsson nokia some of the american companies like cisco and others they can step in and fill the gap can they can they do that right now well it's very difficult because while way is admittedly ahead so we will need time we will probably need huawei equipment and the 1st
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generation of the next network but then let's see let's test whether data is actually getting leaked and siphoned off prove it and then get other companies to fill the gaps take the equipment out which is very costly it's costly and it's risky yes what do you tell the german government with this i mean do they have to you know that they have to take sides in this very much though we believe that you know the community of values between the united states in europe is still very strong it's been talked about a lot and yes there are tensions between both sides of the atlantic but i think that's still where our values alignment is and we have very complimentary assets that we can bring to the table between science and technology and commercial actors so i do believe that's closer to our best than the chinese model which frankly is not respectful to the individual and what was the your feeling with the response that you that you got there from the german government well they're obviously concerned with the german companies that rely on their supply chains many of which rely in turn on while way and so we do need to be respectful to those business
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plans or jobs will get lost but i think we do need to have a strategic plan of how to deal with this and i think they understand that and the question is how quickly can that happen because networks are going up and networks are going up a final question before going out of time what about the donald trump factor in this did you get the feeling that we've heard this many times from german members of parliament that if there were a change in the white house there would be also a change in the blue in this target in the chancellor. you know possibly i will tell you that i think donald trump fall of his flaws has put his finger on a wound that is that is there for a reason and that is that china needs to start becoming a responsible global economic but also ethical player and it has to become a responsible global citizen and so i think it is good for him to exert some pressure and i think that won't change letting on who's in the white house and but we'll have to see if the pressure works. the c.e.o. of cumbrian futures and author of solomon's code mystery we appreciate you taking
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the time to talk with us tonight thanks for having me thank you. well it has become one of the biggest challenges to unity within the european union held a fairly distribute across all $28.00 states migrants who arrive in europe after crossing the mediterranean for years italy malta greece and spain have felt abandoned by the rest of europe in dealing with growing numbers of refugees a plan agreed to today in malta could finally change that replacing burdensome with burden sharing. on land at last in malta migrants rescued off the coast of libya finally able to disembark on european soil in many cases asylum seekers have been stranded at sea for weeks while e.u. countries ogg you about who will take them. europe has wrangled for years over what should happen to migrants rescued at sea the dublin agreement states that migrants
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must seek asylum in the 1st e.u. country they reach and that has been a major bone of contention for european countries the border the mediterranean now a deal struck by germany france italy and finland could finally see an end to the row over the redistribution of migrants rescued in the mediterranean. it's a plan that would take the burden off italy and malta and foresees the swift relocation of migrants to other a u members part of the plan could see germany taking in a quarter of those migrants to help process that asylum applications. the people that have brought onto land have to be redistributed to kind of their security status can be determined through a process of interviews but it's impossible to determine their legal status in such a short 4 week period so their right to asylum is for example what will be decided in germany. these are just the bones of the plan which will be put to the e.u.'s
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other interior ministers at a wide a summit in october for now at least there's hope that could soon be an end to the days when rescue ships packed with desperate people turned away from europe supports. or the decision by the previous italian government to prevent rescue ships and docking led to a spike in migrants arriving in malta this report on former refugees stepping up to the plate and helping new arrivals there some ometer in 6 times a week in the hot maltese sun. he is a sprinter and his goal is to compete in the olympics. when he's not training there's a volunteers with spark 15 a nonprofit set up to help integrate the increasing number of asylum seekers on the island. there is a himself led ethiopia through libya and across the mediterranean 6 years ago he
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says his experience as a refugee allows him to connect with those who cross the same waters. they feel more open to talk to me what they want but you know. i'm not doing a big thing is for them what is like for them is something something good to talk to me there's a story is a story of success but a recent surge in arrivals to europe's most densely populated island is testing that you members asylum system in 201720 people arrive by boat to malta this year that number was 2260. this well in arrivals is due in part to the former italian government's policy of refusing port to the rescue vessels that save migrants in the mediterranean this has made multi the closest safe harbor to the north african coast now other e.u. countries have been accepting a lot of these arrivals but only on an ad hoc basis this has left malta to shelter thousands in makeshift accommodations like these. there are over
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a 1000 people living in the whole far camp of 8 people per container. the residents i spoke to had the same complaints long lines for the bathroom and only pasta to eat. they are worried that winter will be unbearable and we don't have any clothes we don't have wood floors you know how much it is. we don't have and see if you. can just. have ice in the morning honestly lives with that big problem. but the worst part for some is not knowing how long they will have to wait to find out if they can stay in europe. over the weekend celebrated 55 years of independence from the united kingdom the nationalist party held a rally and party leader spoke of economic success both major political parties
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advocate tolerance toward asylum seekers the nationalist party is proud of how the model has handled the influx of people fleeing war and persecution in africa. but says he wants the e.u. to create a system to automatically distribute those who arrive by boat. migration issue is not something which comes and goes. it's a. climate change. the year of pasta be. tackling this issue in knots season. there's a says he hopes he can serve as an inspiration to those who just arrived and those who are bound to come looking for a better life was miami is like looking for freedom. you know know what you need to be you what you make you what freedom you want to make it. there's a feels he is where he wants to be now but he knows he is one of the lucky few.
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well i'm joined now here at the b. table by nora hoff stator from the activists association seabrook which opposes the criminalization of the rescue of migrants in the mediterranean where it's good to have you on the show so you've seen what happened today involved in this agreement what's your take on why i think this is 1st of all of course this is a huge success for us as a social movement this is what we've been in the streets for for over one of a half years we've brought hundreds of thousands of people into the streets to bring in a situation again where countries would open their ports the protestant church been there with us we have 100 communes and cities now that stand in solidarity with the sco but looking from a political perspective this is just a tiny step and if you look at the bigger context it's just nothing at all for people who are stuck in libya and the detention camps there and now this that's
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nothing at all for the ships that are that do have rescue capacities but are stuck in high rates because they are confiscated by european countries so what about the conditions in the countries where these people are fleeing from you know that the good conditions that turned them into refugees yes of course this is i mean we we've been talking about climate change a lot today right rightfully so and we're still living in a continent that is a main cause or of climate change and therefore also. people who actually have to flee and that this is going on today this of course not touch upon that at all because we're not taking enough response ability are you are you. for the that it will get approval then from all members of the european union and then actually go in v.n. forced i i well i am still skeptical but i think what's extremely positive sign is that backing has been given a part and there are several of member countries have already signaled that they
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would ship into the agreement agreement as well and i don't think all will i think that's completely clear but i think a sizeable number and i'm wondering what really forced the leaders in malta to come to this decision because you see it is the pressure from the demonstrations at home but there's also the images like this that we see all the time people drowning there's there's that image there's also what's been going on inside the european union and the lack of unity i mean the threats to the cohesion of the european unity because of this do you think maybe that was today in the back of the minds of those leaders when they said yes we have a deal. well i think the mobilization in the streets and pictures of course intertwine and play together by well. but i don't think there's reason to believe that anybody today was working from real moral high
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ground because now everybody is coming out and presenting themselves as the big human rights defenders but if they really wanted to do that they would need to be talking about how can we get people out of libya and of course the european union is at stake here and of course but even even now i mean they've taken one of the have years to find any form or through aleutian and then the number of migrants we're talking about the number of people coming across the sea is so low that we just see the political pressure there's also been a change in the political constellations in europe for example. and italy you know the interior minister a monkey he's now out of the government does his departure make it easier to get this agreement in malta of course we've been working of course against slovenia for a very long time extremely happy he's finally gone into racist because off the stage. we're still to see how exactly did new government positions itself but as i
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said the ocean back and biking is now been given a harbor so that's a very positive sign and where where has it end but hoping right nor hopes to with zebra good nor we appreciate you taking the time to come in and sharing your insights with us tonight thank you thank you. well the day is almost done but the conversation continues online you'll find us on twitter either at the w. news or you can follow me at brant goff t.v. don't forget to use the hash tag the day and remember whatever happens between now and then tomorrow is another day we'll see that everybody.
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