by breaking all the rules and once in power the rules appear to be breaking them tonight add austria to the list of european countries where voters have used the ballot box to end their experiment with populace in government as for the united states for the 1st time a majority of americans are in favor of impeachment proceedings against a populist president. girl and this is the day. what's going on now is the single greatest scam in the history of american politics this is still clear it's so clear people are talking about impeaching the president . and now they're getting their wish nancy pelosi finally capitulated to her mom it's a joke. impeachment that just sounds fat on the president's betrayal of his

oath of office i do right now with a secure nation in the world is not good it stand i think that as it were a cop clearly has room to simply isn't. coming. also coming up tonight despite syria demanding they leave us and turkish troops are carving out a safe zone in the north east of the country designed to be a door for syrian refugees to use if they want to go home but that is a big if. turkey has taken in more refugees from syria than any other country more than 3600000 people in the space of a few years and while turks the science he initially responded with promote a couple resilience hospitality is now rapidly wearing fit. to our viewers on p.b.s. in the united states and. all around the world well we begin the day with

a cold hard fact about winning political power no one is exempt from the risk of losing their power and that is a lesson that populace appear to be learning the hard way following an example that was said in italy back in august voters in austria yesterday punished the country's far right freedom party apparently for a corruption scandal involving the party's former leader it's a pattern emerging here in europe and in the united states populist politicians who win at the ballot box are colliding with the institutions and rules of conduct that they trashed on their way to campaign victory breaking the rules as a candidate may have been the key to getting elected but breaking the rules in power well it remains the key to getting walked out more on that in just a moment but 1st we have this report from via phone call after the post-election parties it's time for some tricky negotiations to begin sebastiaan curt's is now

you looking for coalition partners the greens may be a viable option for him there are we entering parliament after a surge in support and kids change the face of australian politics but would be wanting. a communication based bit edge of of course we greens are ready to talk but we can only come to the negotiating table if there is a shift when it comes to alki areas we now have the responsibility to put austria at the forefront in climate protection putting an infomercial. if the greens joined a governing coalition it would be a 1st edition national level but with so many other parties also in the frame the voters have mixed feelings about the overall results. and it's a close up tick honestly it's great exactly what i was hoping for and i'm curious about coalitions and what the coalition talks will bring on them putting in a little bit see we'll see with the greens really want to implement a green. policy with

a just middling communists in galveston i don't think the tree house plants the environment is a currency and in my opinion and i'm not the only person to think that politics has nothing much to say nowadays only the economy matters being green sebastian kurtz wants to create the challenges facing the economy front and center in coalition talks the negotiations are expected to last several weeks if not months. well my 1st guest tonight cautions that populace may be losing elections now but their base of support is not necessarily shrinking in her book popular ocracy in the tyranny of authenticity and the rise of populism catherine vs he argues that getting rid of populism is most difficult in societies where not telling the truth is already the lingua franca of politicians evan is the director of global policy

institute at queen mary university in london she joins me tonight from london catherine welcome to the day your piece today in the guardian it caught our attention because you write that outright lying is the winning currency of the populace how does that apply in the case of austria where it's believed voters punished the far right party due to a corruption scandal. so i think what's interesting about austria is that it is a corruption scandal and it's not exactly the same kind of lying is that we've seen elsewhere one of the interesting things about it is that the f.b.i. which is a far right party more than a populous party let's face it. actually you know lost power was ejected from the coalition's trotta had to resign because of new elections and i think that there are 2 tud went down very poorly i'm i'm wondering i'm asking myself whether in fact

you know if they had gone down really fighting rather than kind of you know abandoning the stage if you like whether they wouldn't have been a little bit more credible but i also think that we have to be careful in terms of austria one is that the coalition with the greens is not a given and we may not for sure but we may be right back where we started with the f.b.i. back into coalition and the 2nd thing you know about austria is that actually the real populists are actually the conservative party so you know who needs the affair when you've got the ovi you know doing the job well i mean it's interesting i want to stay with this this idea of the of warning and how we can give you a long way in politics is there a wall of diminishing returns are there democracies where there can be too much. yes i think that you know the lying obviously occurs in context and i think you

know for example italy is a is a very good example the fact is that you know there's a long tradition of populism in italy and actually you know been luscombe lie as much as the need is has lied and is lying it's a context in which in fact lying is the currency so the thing about that is that you know you have to tell bigger and bigger lies in order to attract attention that's why populists lie right it's because they do it in order to be seen to be lying they're not covering things up really what they're actually doing is saying you know look at look at the lengths we're willing to go to in order to really speak the mind of the speak the mind of the people in the case of italy it's it's particularly interesting because it's not that voters turned against being right. overreach he gambled he lost right now he's in opposition in fact his popular

support hasn't been dented so you know if there were to be another election in italy so he could very well be at 3538 percent he hasn't he hasn't lost out very much because it's a context in fact where you know lying has currency but i think that there are other places and hopefully britain you know is one of them are actually lying will take you so far and you know you might like a bit of bombast but at one point there's actually a reaction from the institutions rightly a reaction from parties. about boris johnson the prime minister and the u.s. president. america the poster boys if you will of populism. are they on a shorter leash when it comes to the untruths that they can tell them and get away with. i think they're on the shorter leash once they're in power i think this is

this is absolutely right because the institutions do still have you know some leeway they do still have some credibility if you know if not with all voters certainly with a substantial amount of the voters so that actually would get into power in a place like the united states or a place like like the u.k. what attracts the disaffected voters the voters who want to you know who really want to stick it to the system if you like those are actually things that are much more difficult to wield once you're in power donald trump's had a pretty good run of it if somebody like warren johnson really hasn't you know done very well from it and actually the institutions of turns against him you know quite rapidly well how do you explain double trump though i mean there's the there's the impeachment proceedings which which have begun is we were talking about that today in the news room and the fact that this for many people represents the checks and

balances that are working in the american democracy but at the same time donald trump has told new celt was countless untruths or wives to become president and president so what are we looking at here are we looking at a system that is balancing and calibrating itself or are we looking at a sick democracy. well i think you know i think democracies are fragile they're always a little bit sick right and that's that's their form that's ok but i think what we're seeing is you know it's certainly you know the opposition and also institutions you know learning to deal with this kind of with this kind of leader actually sort of in a sense it it's almost as if they were sort of coming to their senses and thinking oh actually we can assert ourselves you know and we can assert the primacy of the law and that certainly what's been done in the u.s.

and what's being done in the u.k. and i think we have to be very careful i mean i like to be like to be an optimist and see a kind of a reaction and limits put upon these these this kind of populist leadership and we're seeing some of that in europe as well at the level of european institutions where these institutions are starting to find a way to deal with with this populism but i am not entirely sure that this means that you know i think that this can contain it i think that we can in a sense as liberals are pluralist learn to roll with the punches but it's also true that what these institutions are doing will also in a sense galvanize the base for some of these leaders and you know we're seeing it here in in the u.k. that you know what is being done the supreme court ruling last week you know are being interpreted by a lot of the you know of the a lot of the hard core base as the trail collusion you know the language is

extremely violent you know there's a sense in which the populous of popular support in popular base you know are really being sidelined i think we have let me just pick up on that the violence you know wine is one thing but appealing to inciting violence is another. johnson and they've both been accused of doing that i mean are we looking at a system where the bullies who when they're pushed to the wall use their fists are they the ones who are going to win. and i think that what they do and they don't exactly use these expressions and these tools in the same way i think what they're doing is essentially signaling to the base i think when such leaders are have their backs against the wall there's no necessary there's not necessarily one single recipe what boris johnson is doing is stoking

the politics of outrage and he knows that by doing that and he's we're probably not very far from an election here as well he's creating more polarizing and he's using extremely divisive language and this is a way to actually solidify his base i don't think that it is necessarily you know billed as an incitement to hatred i think some of what donald trump has done is certainly you know in terms of you know the racism and you know the calls for people to go home for the lock her up and all of that that is actually much more i think of a call to violence it's almost all to arms catherine just a fascinating discussion with you katherine please come back to the let's talk to katherine author of the book population of the tyranny of authenticity and the rise of populism catherine thank you very much. thank you. turkish president richard pipetta one wants a new safe zone in northeastern syria and there is one big reason why he wants

a place to repatriate syrian refugees are one wanted to establish that zone by today the last day of september but his government and the u.s. they seem to have different ideas about how big the zone should be everyone says they'll act alone if there's no agreement the syrian refugees in turkey say some are already being deported back home to areas including the north which according to them are far from say our correspondent you'll yohan met a woman who says that her son was sent back against his will. mohammed has been gone for almost 2 months. when often a show thinks about what happened to her son she feels helpless lost. in early august mohammed was riding a friend's motorbike in istanbul the bike was and registered mohammed was stopped by police and then sent to a detention center they were

a lot i don't know i wasn't normal about 12 days later i got a call from mohammed. he said they've taken me to syria to italy that she was his last phone call i haven't heard from him since then and that the women that it might have rhymes are not broken when me fled from syria he was still a small child. now they have sent him back to that place that removed not and i don't know where he is still. istanbul's fattish district is an area where many syrians live many here of heard that the turkish authorities have been deporting refugees in recent months and most of them are afraid that they could be next. when they started sending people back i was so scared i didn't leave my house but i like to make light of what we are now

but they are live and there are more restrictions on us now people are being deported back to syria we can't escape turkey for europe anymore because it's too dangerous. yeah i will go down with it and we syrians used to feel welcome here they will learn it's changed a little bit and they're only now we feel like unwanted migrants again. and. turkey has taken in more refugees from syria than any other country more than 3600000 people in the space of a few years hundreds of thousands live here in istanbul they set up stores of breast strongs they've tried to build new life while turkish society initially responded with more marketable resilience hospitality is now rapidly wearing fit. to cross is both around. more of them come i don't want to live in this

neighborhood and in this country anymore. it's me. but i get along very well with most of the syrians here there are some bad people but you get that everywhere you go and i guess we want them to leave as soon as possible we don't want them here anymore because the. turkish president one has recognized this change in public sentiment in the past few weeks he has made repeated promises that millions of syrians will return home to a so-called safe zone that he wants to establish in the north east of syria. but the government insists the deportations are not taking place and that syrians who are returning are doing so momentarily. the mare chattered us disagrees the lawyer is trying to help get off the racial son back from syria mohammed and his family have valid turkish documents and protection

status checkers has filed an appeal with turkey's constitutional court. sending a person to a war zone as a serious human rights violation in this mohammed is not an isolated case we so for this is happening to many syrians many have been deported in recent months some of the ethnic are. lost the lawyer says that many deported syrians attempt to return to turkey making a 2nd escape from their war torn country illegally and often at a high cost of paying a lot of money to smugness and as dangerous as that might sound. i promise mother ofa is clinging to any hope that she might see her son again in safety. books weigend is in court here in germany to face charges related to the diesel gate emissions

scandal the class action lawsuit the 1st of its kind in germany is being brought by more than 400000 drivers who were seeking compensation for purchasing vehicles with devices that allow the car maker to cheat on environmental emissions test. the scandal has already cost bugs wagon over $30000000000.00 worldwide. i'm joined now here at the big table by my colleagues know to molly on she is from our business this is talk about this class action lawsuit developing how much are we talking about well this is a very big deal also be given its historic nature like you said there this is the 1st class action lawsuit that germany has ever seen it had to be preceded by a change in the law to even happen but how much of flux fogging will end up paying and homages if the court finds against like song that's less clear at the beginning of what happens to be what promises to be a very long process and on the 1st day the judge was quick to dampen hopes of u.s.

style damages being awarded indeed and now those the 30000000000 euros that has already spent on these all get related damages that has ended up going mostly towards affected u.s. consumers and there's there doesn't seem to be a big indication that that will be replicated here in germany and there are several issues at play here now the for citing judge said that you can't really pin down fox filing for breach of contract because the contract of sale happened between dealerships and individual buyers some of these cars were secondhand so where would you go about now in order to claim damages buyers that would have to prove what they lost and the courts then have to decide how much reduced resale value matters how much it matters that there are diesel driving bans you know there's a lot of extra math in all of that that's for sure but isn't there an irony here i mean votes like yours in the diesel gate scandal right now is going to have to pay up at the same time it's leading the world in the what you cars is going to have what the 1st card to come out for the masses in europe in 2020 next year the id 3

indeed and it has been part of. strategy to rehabilitate themselves and there is some irony in this because a lot of that money that they were able to that they were able to earn all these years and it's been a lot of money it's been that connect with so you know we're taught to become the number one of the number one car maker in the world so it's been a position to make these mega investments intellectual ability 20000000000 euros by 2030 and that's on top of the damages it's had to pay for an investor we'll have to see if that investment pings off you know as always thank you. 30 years ago thousands of east germans fleeing communism made their way to prague heading for the west german embassy there know they intended to use that embassy as a jump off point if you will to cross into the west and that gamble it paid all

well 30 years later some of them have been retracing their steps to freedom. just. back in time. traveling in a train just like this one. like reliving it all over again. back then sander was one of thousands of refugees fleeing east germany they travelled in special trains from prague to the west but to get there they had to pass through east german territory where they feared they'd be arrested. in order to keep memories of those journeys alive some of the people who made those

trips then doing it again. they all left east germany that way. after several tense weeks in the west german embassy in prague. it was in september 1989 east germans were poor and into the embassy the building was quickly overwhelmed. many ended up camping out in the embassy grounds it was cold. santa spent 3 weeks here with his wife and 2 children new arrivals came in over the fence every day. for them. it never stopped raining the cut down board so you didn't have to walk through the mud the. tents wherever they could find

a space where you can match was the tents were all crowded up against one another. then the fateful moment on the 30th of september west german foreign minister hans dietrich a arrived speaking to the refugees from the balcony his announcement that they could leave was drowned out by cheers. i. was. i didn't check promise that everyone in the embassy would be allowed to go to the west stand it was that and hurt him. while he was standing right here. at. this. point. it's all coming about his little. that

same night santa and his family left the embassy and boarded the train to west germany. he thought he was or it was a very emotional journey of a shifty very difficult ordeal they say it would show for us. it was a train to freedom that's. cool just a few weeks later the citizens of east germany gained their freedom cone november 9th 1909 the bell and will came down. and we remember it well well the day is always done the conversation continues online go find us on twitter either at you give you news you can follow me at work go off t.v. every member whatever happens between now and then tomorrow is another day we'll see you then if you got.

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