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a german city in shock a gunman opens fire near a synagogue in the eastern city of hama 2 people are confirmed dead one suspect is detained there may be others police to tell people to stay off the streets also on the program turkey launches military action in northern syria warplanes take off in what president. describes as operation peace spring against kurdish militants.
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i'm phil go welcome to the program at least 2 people have been killed in a shooting in the eastern german city of hala a police arrested one suspect and they're looking for others who are thought to have fled the scene where the shooting occurred near a synagogue while services were taking place for yom kippur the holiest day in the jewish calendar there are reports of a separate incident at the kebab shop in holland now police say shots have also been fired in the town of landsberg that's about 15 kilometers away in a federal terrorism prosecutors have taken over the investigation and police warned the public to remain a let's. take a closer look at where the synagogue shooting is reported to have happened this is the humboldt strasser and hollers the historical district general william forces and confirm that they have closed the city's royal way station until further notice . from 1st very system from g.w.
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political correspondent to thomas spyro welcome thomas just walk us through what's happened today but what we know so far from the police in the city of how did that east germany a city of about 200000 people is that 2 people have been confirmed dead the police spoke of multiple shooters so they spoke about that in the plural right from the start so they knew that they were possibly dealing with more than one person and later they also said that they had been able to arrest one person what is unclear it was a doctor person arrested was one of the shooters or on the other hand was someone related to them in one way or another that has been the reaction from the police in the city of boston people as you said phil to stay indoors remain safe and try also and avoid any speculation about the motives there is also a political reaction from local authorities who have called
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a specific emergency committee in order to assist in the investigation they have also clearly stated that authorities in holly and in the surrounding region are on high alert that's the local political reaction and there has also been reaction on the federal level from called spokes person describing this as a terrible day and also asking people to follow indications by the police in. finance stay with us let's hear from an eyewitness who was in the kebab shop when where one of the gunman launched his attack into you come up i'm on one i saw a man in a home and he was right outside a combat shop behind an old lady he was wearing an army uniform everything looked very militaristic he had a weapon in his hand in the mosque on. and it looked like he had a hand grenade of something else maybe a firecracker and he wanted to throw it into the shop. but it hit the door and
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exploded in front of the old woman with the huge bang then he came into the shop and opened fire. and everyone ran away shouting and screaming towards the staircase which was heading out the back of the shop. and i saw the entrance to the toilets where i hear and well everyone else tried to find a way out or even a window. and guessed it wasn't on the. on there was another loud explosion and a lot of shouting opposition that effect scotland by 20 and then suddenly grew silent. enough before i rang the police they said i should stay in the toilet. i texted my family and my parents. eventually i heard the police arrive they wanted to know if someone was there they secured the area i yelled out that i was there i held up my arms and they briefly search me and.
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doesn't this i can't say a lot about the attackers nationality he could see was wearing a mosque but there were some gaps in it and i'm guessing it was a white guy based on that. the sun visor but i'm really not so sure because i was in a state of shock at the time. i can say that he was very determined to get into this particular combat shop. everything happened so quickly in the 1st few seconds after he opened fire and everyone ran away right after that. i don't remember how long i was hiding in the toilet it probably wasn't longer than 10 minutes. but it felt a lot longer. i says to that he said. so no british reporter on this incident in eastern germany political correspondent tom sparrow is still with us brief brief description of of one of the suspects from
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a witness what else do we know well we know for example from the mayor of the town in lands but that's one of the places where there were reportedly another there was reportedly another shooting which is not far away from. that mess said that 2 of the suspects had hijacked a car and were on their way on the motorway to munich that hasn't been confirmed further by other authorities but probably police are trying to now find these other people involved we also know that authorities are going that there was more than one shooter right from the start they had spoken about possible shooters in the in the plural so the big question now is how many were involved what were the relationship between the different people involved and whether that person that was arrested something that also the police and how they confirmed what he is or her relationship was with the rest of those involved that's as far as the possible
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perpetrator. then we also have obviously the side of the victims we still don't know much about about the victims have been a lot of speculation about the shooter exactly but we don't know much more about the 2 the 2 dead or whether there were other people injured as well. and this happened close to a synagogue in a jewish cemetery that was initially reported by germany's mass circulation. it was initially not confirmed by authority was it was only afterwards that a spokesperson told one of germany's news agencies that the case had indeed happened close to a synagogue but that same spokesman was very clear to stress that there was no concrete evidence that the location of it had a direct relationship to the actual case so in other words authorities are still trying to investigate the motive behind the shooting and whether the fact they happened close to a synagogue was in any way important to them must part of the investigation that's what we know so far about the location of the incident stay with us sir thomas
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through pick up on the point about what police know or don't know local police have been briefing the press the latest developments let's listen to what that would say . we are. told although we have at least 2 crime scenes one here on this street where one person was shot dead and one. beyond the informant soon. we were told one perpetrator was on the run and this person was armed. we also got information there were possibly several perpetrators involved but we can't confirm that at this time. but there was at least one perpetrator. this person fled in a vehicle we followed that lead and this vehicle was stopped outside her house and the alleged perpetrator was taken into custody as. you put it so i don't totally confess to you know. political correspondent or thomas but still with us too early to talk about a motive tom's indeed it's way too early to talk about
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a possible motive which by the way phil is not unusual in these kinds of situations authorities are normally very cautious when it comes to possible motives and that has to do with the fact that they're still it's still too early in the investigation what happens at the beginning when you 1st have the reports of a possible shooting or a possible security incident as they cordoned off zone that they try and talk to witnesses and try and put all the pieces together before they can actually give any concrete information about the possible motive one issue related to a possible motive is the fact that federal prosecutors have announced that they're taking over the investigation these are federal prosecutors described as and terror prosecutors now it is still unclear whether there is a terrible here but they receive it is absolutely clear that authorities in the city of cards were the federal prosecutors based there that have taken up the investigation taking away from the local police the national 1st it is always 1st regional matter so dealt with dealt by with regional authorities and only if there
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is a suspicion that it could go further that it could have for example a terrible motive does that move to a higher level and it is taken. over by federal prosecutors and this is the case in this incident in a thought he's already mentioning that federal prosecutors have taken the case and i leading the investigation so just to be clear because it is a bit of a confused picture we're talking about 2 incidents in. a separate incident in a city some kilometers away this is long yes and that's what authorities are now trying to put together how these instances are related there is a lot of speculation as usual in particular on social media and that's what authorities have also been very clear asking people not to speculate not to talk to me about possible motives asking people instead to well stay indoors to follow the instruction by the police and basically also be cautious and cautious is also a key word when we talk about federal authorities because they have also been cautious when it comes to their reaction initially basically describing the case as
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a terrible case hoping that police will be able to arrest all those involved and also asking people as i've just said to follow instructions by the police in these particular cases when the situation is so fluid when you have a variety of places involved it is more and more important to try and avoid any speculation or any unconfirmed news and try and on the other hand focus on what police are revealing what police has revealed so far is that 2 people dead multiple shots possible shooters on the run and one person detained some of sparklers of course from the from the it's very clear as thomas was just saying that police in hala in the east of germany say they've arrested one person in connection with the shooting incident in the city before does indicate that the attack took place in front of a synagogue is like a closer look at where the incidents reported to have happened in the home about struggle and how this part of the street and today is your home could prove the
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most important religious holiday in the jewish calendar police have told residents in the city to stay in their homes the main road station has been closed until further notice. let's take a look at the a rising art of the situation with your own son pierre he's a security and counterterrorism expert at the bottom security consulting group here in berlin so welcome to the program let's talk about the weaponry has been reported to have been used and also mastic weapon i don't know what talk about you know easy to come by you in germany they're very difficult to come by here in germany it's one of those things where you need to have a special type of license the monitoring the. criteria to obtain such a weapon jim you're very very strict however the access to such a weapon on the black market is not it's difficult but it's not that difficult and
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so there's ample opportunity to get access to a weapon like this it's not the united states it's not other countries where it's that easy it's over the counter however the possibilities are there and what we've seen with if that is indeed a far right motivated is that in other countries in other cases as well is that very often the perpetrators of such attacks do have a security background whether it be military or police and you have to require license to use this from seeing this in france unfortunately a few times and so it does facilitate been the access to this type of weapon you know previous terror attacks here in germany against. people of the jewish faith have led to increased security outside the city go to a place of worship and this incident is said to outside a synagogue near to a jewish center absolutely and defocus is very much been on berlin on the big
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cities when you surprised in the future that we're going to see more police presence in synagogues in main. areas of jewish faith practices in germany and also in front of mosques very recently in germany there were a lot of. investigations and. raids conducted in areas because of threats made against mosques so i believe that we're going to see an increase security presence not just in from synagogues but in front of mosques in other states as well and so just to be clear the mo it's in germany it is it is quite normal to see police routinely standing guard outside synagogues absolutely it's so you see they have those little huts or their cars down permanent permanently. 24 hour watch usually so yeah there's there's already a certain degree of attention paid to the safety and security of synagogues and again other jewish other areas of jewish faith in berlin and just certain areas in germany as well that's already
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a focus but it's very difficult sometimes for one person also it becomes part of the routine you see the traffic come and go come down to the human factor and it's on. and it looked like he had a hand grenade of something else maybe a firecracker and he wanted to throw it into the shop. but it hit the door and exploded in front of the old woman with the huge bang then he came into the shop an open fire. and everyone ran away shouting and screaming towards the staircase which was heading out the back of the shop. and i saw the entrance to the toilets where i hear. everyone else tried to find a way out or even a window. that wasn't on that and. there was another loud explosion and a lot of shouting in that effect. that's gotten on by 20 and then suddenly grew silent. before i rang the police they said i should stay in the toilet
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because i just wanted to i texted my family and my parents. eventually i heard the police arrive they wanted to know if someone was there they secured the area i yelled out that i was then i held up my arms and they briefly search me and. i was the midst of awkward. as i can say a lot about the attackers nationality because he was wearing a mosque but there were some gaps in it and i'm guessing it was a white guy based on that. bus and vice of a but i'm really not so sure because i was in a state of shock at the time. and i can say that he was very determined to get into this particular combat shop. schnare get everything happened so quickly in the 1st few seconds after he opened fire and everyone ran away right after that. i don't remember how long i was hiding in the toilet it probably wasn't longer than 10 minutes but it felt
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a lot longer. i says to that he said. no confirmation from the police yet that this was a terrorist incident though it is being investigated by a federal counterterrorism offices an investigator with us is that young son pierre who is a security and counterterrorism expert here let's talk about the domestic intelligence service which has been criticized recently as it improved well. it's been criticized for a variety of reasons especially for having a tunnel vision it would say it's been criticized because it focused too long too much on islamic terrorism for example and neglected other types of threats like a right wing terrorism or far left domestic their domestic type of terrorism and the other hand the biggest problem that germany has and that's been the case for
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other western states as well is that they've been playing catch up over the last 56 years when it comes to improving security measures related to terrorism because for a long time you know lack of staff lack of resources lack of money but people aren't trained fast enough so in germany the standard is 3 years and they're sticking to those 3 years meanwhile the gap is still growing so you can hire people you can and vest more money but if the technology and the people aren't there at the right time and there's a reluctance for example to work with partners that could fill that gap then we're dealing with we're still playing catch up and as fast as the german authorities want to work. it's very difficult to fill the gap with terrorist war historically speaking have always been the head of a. lack of resources a lot of people get a raise that eyebrows here in germany one of the richest countries in europe with
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the world iraq of a lack of resources tend to indicate a lack of political priority over some reluctance there's absolutely that we're. talking really about political will here. post-war germany is post-war history has created this reluctance toward security forces the structure of the federal system to mitigate the power of security forces. the fact that germany as a whole is a very secure country and it's the fact that they have to deal with such threats in an increasing way would be from the far right for religious extremist groups over the last 45 years. has confronted them with the need for it but the reluctance is still there and so we're definitely talking about more about the will to to invest those resources rather than i do feel good if there's resources for us a good talking to thanks for joining us a young some peer from the security consulting group here in.
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this is d.w.i. news live from button will bring the latest information on the aftermath of the shooting and the investigations as we get them let's move on to other news down a turkish president has announced the start of military action in northern syria the president of the army had begun what he called operation peace spring against kurdish militants reports from the kurdish led syrian democratic forces say ass trucks are being carried out and there is a huge party of people. straight to turkey that correspond to your hands in istanbul welcome yulia bring us up to date. well as you already mentioned the turkish operation in the north in syria has started and it was president ad on himself who announced it on twitter he wrote that they were going to destroy and are quoting here
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a tear or korean or and bring peace to the region that was the official announcement and soon after that we got the 1st news that turkish warplanes have been hitting bases of syrian white p.g. fighters ammunition depots and also sniper positions so the attacks have started the turkish military has entered the turkish foreign minister is very keen on emphasizing that from his point of view this intervention this so operation is according to international law turkish media here are a branding this is a security operation to establish a safe zone so they are using these words a lot security and save so on but as you also mentioned there are also very different news coming from the kurdish side there in syria of course we can't independently verify this but they are saying they are being hit to the turkish
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military is hitting civilian areas reportedly from one syrian town right on the border. people are already trying to escape this is an area with about 20000 people and this is where this news is coming from these people are saying there is huge panic that is so this is the latest right now apparently there has been some last minute diplomacy phone calls were being exchanged between ankara in washington uncorrupt and mosco and now this offensive the fact that it has started it seems to be the outcome of all these exchanges and to be clear what we're talking about a fire that is likely to be very butch onesided you're talking about i'm sorry i can't hear you that i think we lost the phone action but you could try and call me . again all right well we'll see if we can reestablish that line to harm and then we'll go back to that story let me just bring you up to date with the other story that we're covering in this hour at least 2 people have been killed in
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a shooting in the eastern german city of holland a police have arrested one suspect and are looking for others who were thought to have fled the scene of the shooting happened near a synagogue while services were taking place for a yarmulke pool the holiest day in the jewish calendar there are reports of a separate incidents. in the city police say shots of also been fired at in the town of landsborough that's around 15 kilometers away federal antiterrorism prosecutors have taken over the investigation police are warning the public to remain alert german railway all forces of that they have closed howlers main train station until further notice. so coming up next here all day w. the white house has announced that it will not cooperate with the impression of a congressional impeachment inquiry against a president trump is administration is alive alleging that the inquiry is unconstitutional but top democrats are condemning the white house's announcement
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house speaker nancy pelosi says the president is trying to position himself outside the law. he's trying to walk away from what he sees is the latest attack on his presidency with this move donald trump is calling the u.s. constitution into question in the 8 page letter democrats were told we won't cooperate with you the letter says that's because quote your inquiry lacks any legitimate constitutional foundation any pretense of fairness or even the most elementary g. process protections. it is a very very strong british very strong letter it is supported by footnotes not ball and not political propaganda it's hardly political it's legal and it's beyond their competence because they are so mesmerised we're going to have to trot this was all commonsense democrats say trump pushed ukraine's president to investigate his political rival joe biden and his son hunter using the machinery of government and
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his personal network and in july phone call with kiev the president repeatedly raised the matter trumped private lawyer giuliani is just one of his in a circle accused of working on the ukraine campaign another man involved schooled in sunland on the rights he's trumps u.s. ambassador to the e.u. and the past campaign donor text messages released last week appear to show how he supported pressuring ukraine zone choose day the state department's blocked him from testifying to democrats by preventing us from hearing from this witness and obtain these documents. the president and secretary of state are taking actions that prevent us from getting the facts needed to protect the nation security democrats are now paying the n.c. issuing a subpoena for some lens and that clear trump continues to block install the legal process they could use the matter is one of the articles of impeachment. now while
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that fight over the impeachment inquiry between the trump administration and democrats committees that intensifies a congress itself is on a break most members of the assembly are spending time in their home districts talking to constituents for the 1st time directly since the start of the employee impeachment inquiry is the w.'s i was wonderful naaman traveled to the battleground state of wisconsin to see how the washington battle is playing there. on a town hall tour in wisconsin one of the stops the tone of shelter work over the last 2 weeks congressman mark book and democrats has traveled across his district to talk to his constituents about health care education and does anyone here outside the teacher and. we have a confession right i mean it's pretty. pretty right here like many of his fellow democrats to congressman support the impeachment inquiry but here in his district
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among farmers who blue collar workers he's facing some tough question which is why are you worried only say well you know i was wrong. unfortunately what i've seen is more decided to just leave rather than say anything because there's a lot of pressure on them especially when they are running for reelection the only problem with everything is going. to get serious. so much more. so. there is a so that there becomes a tipping point is the server telesur reached a tipping point now he's going to have this is a president who thinks he's above the law you the guy who told us he should so. he's trying to prove it great babies are stupid well thank you all very much appreciated if it is real i'll just keep. explaining the impeachment inquiry to
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voters means walking a tightrope for democrats in swing states like wisconsin according to recent polls the support put a decision to look into don't know it's trump's conduct has grown but at the same time many republicans still sees as a political move to bring down their president and it appears at least for now that impeachment has only white and the existing partisan divides. the city of one pun wisconsin congressman glen growth man a republican has been representing this district for fight for years he stands by the president i think there are too many people who everson style trump was sworn in and spend all their trying time trying to kick him out rather than dealing with issues that should be dealt with now and then just trying to beat him in the next election the poll but shortly after the beginning of his town hall the congressman is being grilled by his constituents on the issue are some pretty republican
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support for another country to interfere with our election to go on and you know once more on all or more should become i feel president using his political power for political personal gain i also believe the word former constitution and no wasn't. so have you stated support for rubio pietschmann for the who tried asking the former to interfere in our life seems to be the every other president who has yet to come up with more. chunks of the interim office almost all. the warning for the people you know there's a lot of people out out there like me that really appreciate everything trump has done and i think people will be surprised when he is voted back look at the answer already. reelected or impeached and convicted the dispute about that is likely to
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