tv Made in Germany Deutsche Welle October 16, 2019 5:30pm-6:00pm CEST
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problem according to classes from causing people to talk this is where they are. welcome to the 77 percent. this weekend d.w. . name place of residence date of email address mobile phone number credit card number security code it's mind boggling the amount of personal information you have to share when shopping online and we just go along with it the internet and privacy guinea your data our topic today on mate welcome when we use social media and
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online services like banking and shopping we reveal all kinds of information about ourselves the problem is crooks can steal it and then use it to hamas all the people around us and companies face the same dangers now you'd think that every firm nowadays would be prepared to fight off hackers but many aren't and that's where specialists come in. and i.b.m. has set out to teach managers what to do in an emergency and are reportedly took part in a training session simulating a large scale cyber attack. in
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this special equipped truck they simulate every company's worst nightmare. today i'm playing a sea of a company that is facing a lot of problems because it's being attacked from the internet. the other journalists here are playing department heads at his company a major back alexandra croom is a cyber security expert at i.b.m. . i mean thank you an officer was. packers have taken control of a cash machine. where is the idea. ok they get their money as soon as possible the case for germany is that. 67 percent does not even have a plan in place for responding to a cyber attack and the feel of those who has only half of them train it when people are under pressure in a critical situation like a cyber attack is if it's written somewhere that has taken down the company then
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they are not prepared to respond in a way that will reduce the impact on the company or government in our simulation the question the journalists face now is do we shut down the banks i.t. systems and reboot them in real life such a situation might well trigger a panic with senior staff members reluctant to take responsibility and take charge that is a chain of jewelry stores in germany in early july hackers took over its servers and encrypted all its data they reportedly demanded and received a ransom in bitcoin to restore the company's access to its own. data. what we also advise companies is to have a website that my son is a website you've already prepared and now you can launch it quite a bit when you go out. in the simulation the bank doesn't have a backup website like that the situation is getting worse
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a photo pops up on twitter the hackers have hijacked a lift at headquarters. 2 years ago danish shipping company mask was hit by the not petty way it caused days of global havoc mess was eventually able to re-install thousands of servers and computers backups that well almost up to date for a while it's hard to communicate with clients via what's up. there is never any guarantee or 100 percent security as there is always as well with risk it's always a matter of how much risk are you willing to take on that we can say that there is a certainty that you can train some of these things down to a level where you can reduce the impact i'll pretend the bank now gets an e-mail apparently from one of its executives he says hackers not demanding money and cause huge damage luckily the participants determine that the email is
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a fake. we just see this thread landscape golding very badly and even in i.b.m. we see the vulnerabilities to take this is is on the rise because now we have more digital societies so our lives are at texas and that tech is obviously they they try to make use of that for example phishing campaigns is something that is reaching very fraught and one 3rd of all attacks phishing these simulations help i.b.m. clients prepare for possible design. in the real world. one of the techniques they use here is to target business travelers on their behaviors in the airport and that could for example be. setting up fake wife eyes so that when you connect through airport wife a you think it's an effort by 5 but it's actually an attacker that has said wife i
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that imitates the airport wife i. thought it was. exciting as i expected to be but in the end i have to say i've pruned a lot of things for example a c.e.o. has to handle a lot of information all it wants and you have this process you can't because every minute counts sometimes it's such a relief not to be a c.e.o. but a journalist. well for c.e.o.'s journalists and all the rest of us to get anything done these days you pretty much have to go online whether you want to book a doctor's appointment or nail down a good rate on a hotel room or rental car still many germans remain reluctant to embrace the digital age era some facts and figures. fears about data theft are
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greater in germany then other european countries it worries 55 percent of all germans compared to the e.u. average of 45 percent people in poland are less concerned and least of all in malta . that may be one reason why germany is lagging behind when it comes to digitalisation while more than 90 percent of people in finland denmark the netherlands and sweden use online banking services just 55 percent of germans do below the e.u. average. that's amazing considering how many brick and mortar bank branches have closed down in germany well to each their own in many parts of asia people have a very different attitude towards the internet thais spend a huge amount of time online every day do they worry their data could be used against them what renie. was i have 1000 friends on my facebook at the money that bought
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the my plan which is book club really love facebook because everybody. was on the move i post photos of my girlfriend and my dog. the posing the facebook implosion word of buddha's teaching. i had a chance 1000 facebook friends thought. a lot and i was on the top eagerly match so surely i got my. bank card has more facebook profiles than inhabitants ties spend more time on the internet than any other people in the world an average of 9 hours and 38 minutes every day. if you seem to be concerned about protecting their private data.
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and that can be big business. chips fall mung problem turns data into money all the data that is the. biggest on the computer if these 3 people. you need to understand that when you play when you like when you stop the sea you've already in all the data the best will to do go to whatever. we are the technology to help the brand to know how to talk the right way to the right consumer with information from the social media. and his fellow founders set up their company 5 years ago. today they employ 160 staff to analyze data from countries such as japan indonesia and vietnam their customers or government authorities and companies who are keen. to person the best possible image for example the data analysts track how customers
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perceive the products of a large cosmetic company by evaluating comments posted online so yeah they have this crisis but their shampoo product there were a lot of consumer that complain about sticky. sticky hair like that shampoo was causing sticky hair so we put the keyword for a sticky have. under the name of the product and then we create a chart for them to see the movement off the whole timeline and whether it's going up or going down in contrast to germany's samurais business model is excepted here after all users have consented to the processing of their data. our job is not to own the data but. on the life that followed a brand to understand it. no need to waste the time to talk something to the listening guy. interesting to hear so in we understand he's.
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here. thailand is undergoing a digital transformation under the new king the government has been supporting startups ringback but it has also tightened control over the internet despite the surveillance more and more ties are going on line in 2016 alone there was a 20 percent increase in internet users they don't expect the state to protect their data people who are interested in protecting their data have to take matters into their own hands one possible solution the digital identity wallet designed by edmund lowe an american citizen who lives in the north of thailand it uses decentralized block chain technology to ensure data security so he is a digital identity wallet that the user controls and they store their information that can be identity documents like a passport and it could be identity data like i'm an american here's my birthday and it can be verified claims like i've proven to this notary on this date that i'm
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american and i can share just that fact with someone else. first visited the country to take part in a thai boxing match and stayed to set up his startup. now he's fighting against the commodification of internet users data. i don't think that people are really aware of what happened to their data or at their data is being used by some it's a very large companies mechanism to feed them more ads or sell them something or do marketing or advertising the companies can misuse the data misappropriate the data of the data and what we need to do is decentralize our identity systems and really enable stuff so often i've got to. many people are still not aware of just how necessary it is to keep their private data safe and out of the clutches of others. i have to admit i'm not much of a risk taker myself i don't even have a pay pal account but being too cautious has plenty of drawbacks i guess the trick
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is to balance risk and security without compromising one or the other. the way or risk ahead. wherever i go i spread fear everyone is keen to minimize me or shut me out completely. for i am risk. everyone's afraid of me in traffic the nuclear industry or the stock exchange. everyone loves my nemesis security. but there is no getting away from me completely . everywhere no matter where you are the bigger end my dear i am the higher the potential profit. the smaller and weaker you make me the slimmer the odds of coming up roses in germany especially companies go out of their way to avoid me all they want is security their only now beginning to build major
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factories to produce their own batteries for electric cars until now they say it goes to greater risk but in the us and asia i'm not so despised tesla and samsung are busy producing batteries for electric cars they believe risk pays and that's true i risk and the real driver of the economy the entire global insurance system is designed to guard against the havoc i could wreak. the industry was worth an estimated $3.00 trillion dollars and 2017. i'm a guarantor for wealth and progress venture capitalists know that accepting me is part of what makes great ideas and innovations possible. silicon valley is full of people who aren't afraid to embrace me those who are good at figuring me out and weighing up the risk can we hadn't been. but be aware
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those who underestimate me or ignore me do so at their peril take me for less than i am and i can cause chaos i know no mercy. the bigger i get the more i can potentially destroy i always take down everything. with me. now taking risks is constant passage of the start up a business plan is one major stop pop here in europe tel aviv has probably more stops at the capital than any other city in the world plenty of foreign firms also pursue r. and d. in israel because the business and science environments are so nurturing technology for self driving vehicles is one big focus but there are many of us. the greater tel aviv area is home to around a 3rd of all israelis traffic in and around the city is chaotic to say the least.
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sometimes the only way to make any progress is by moped. for autonomous cars russian tech firm yandex is testing itself driving vehicle in traffic here. the engineer sitting behind the wheel isn't driving. the car is doing everything all on its own explains your vehicle she works for the russian company. we're going to stop here above it shows us the reason why we're stuck here it's like either but it's france best thing or here is the traffic light. could someone outside the car seize control of the vehicle. the car is can we were taught in us all the calculations happen on board there in the trunk you can see a big p.c. which does all the calculations so you can attack the car from the outside because
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it's not connected to the outside world. the autonomous car is still learning in an emergency situation the driver hits a button and takes over the controls. the russian company is convinced that its vehicle is completely secure because potentially dangerous cyber attacks can't access its system right now we're trying to make sure all the technology is 100 percent safe anywhere. you don't need any external communication you don't even need the satellite data because cardinal call like allies is not based on the satellite signal which can easily be helped as well. it might be easy to hack a satellite signal but a fundamental belief in the power of technology remains unshakable at the d.l.d. tell of the digital conference. the topics of security and data protection how does really taken center stage. the headquarters of the startup arba robotics
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aren't far from the conference venue israeli companies focused on autonomous driving are setting up to compete with russian and american rivals. many of the staff members here gained experience in the israeli military are but works with radar radar is a very i'm used to can always. full civilian applications it's very common in the army in the army basically radar is doing majority of the sensing. but. outside of that the radar is really underused just like aircraft are but the use radio waves to recognize obstacles radar works in every kind of weather and a start up system has very high resolution so when you're driving everything is approaching so it becomes really everything green is stationary everything.
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is getting farther away and everything that is ready is approaching us. what looks simple is anything but because safety is paramount. technology that is needed in order to solve the problem of driving is like landing on it's even more complicated than that so the challenge is big. level of safety that you need to bring is a very high. other israeli companies are deploying the latest digital technology for data evaluation and control this moped is in constant contact with its firm central office staff there can see where the messenger is at any given moment and the moped can also be controlled remotely to some extent if the writer. going too fast headquarters can simply slow it down. or if you have a very strong israeli cyber security from the israeli army so we have
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a person who has been working for 20 years in cyber security to join our team specifically for this and also in a scooter the braking system is separate from the engine so even if something if we can lock down the scooter from far we can stop it but the driver on a scooter can still do full brakes everything will forward. control and artificial intelligence both big topics at the tell of the digital conference even the construction industry is getting in on the game this start up has developed an autonomous crane. you know i think that in created 20. human being should not be in this kind of environment in a very small cabin. walking on a very huge machines it's very difficult. to develop or say the ai equipped crane can do everything
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a human could be like an airline pilot the operator is just there as a safeguard generally everything will go as planned but not always people that think their privacy their data. is sure. is protect. unfortunately are not understanding of the new game. it's a new game that counts on trust in artificial intelligence and assumes that both data and technology is controllable. again with an uncertain outcome. a game with an uncertain outcome cyber threats can be hard to times to embrace new technologies and remain open to all the new possibilities big institutions are also grappling with data issues germany's foreign intelligence service the b. and d. has its own cyber security unit and is keen to hire the best hackers we found one
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of them willing to talk. spending hours days weeks trying to get into a system and getting nowhere can be very frustrating but when you finally succeed it's an amazing kick. interviewing lucas is an amazing kick for me to look at this isn't his real name and we can show his face the work he does is highly sensitive. he works in cyber espionage a germany's foreign intelligence agency the b.m.d. but no one is supposed to know that. we hardly allowed to film anything including handing in our cellphones and passing through a number of security checks. we need lucas in a distant corner of the building the press box person and the safety officer up present throughout the entire interview. what exactly do you do you know obviously i can't go into detail about what exactly it is i do basically i'm a hacker that i intrude into i.t.
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systems to gain information that it's true that the typical cases involve figuring out what's happening abroad and you might want to know what's going on in country x. or y. . for example you want to find out about weapons and defense technology somewhere organized crime or of course terrorism these are all areas in which there's a serious demand for hacking. he makes this sound very. this about 30. willing to say. by himself and sent it on spec application to the d. a few years ago. now he has a job he can't tell anyone anything about. i usually tell people i have an office job in i.t. and then people usually don't bother asking any more questions it sounds like all i do is install printers and so on and no one's interested in that the p.n.t. is an urgent need of people like lucas and i
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t experts with an unconventional approach. a glossy p.r. campaign is designed to improve its image and the service is deliberately targeting job fairs and university students the trouble is potential candidates know their skills are in demand and that they can earn more in the private sector. at 1st glance there is a competitive disadvantage we do try to be attractive employer. that is what the spokesperson says what does lucas say. i get to do things that aren't legal in the outside world i also get to feel i've done something useful my contribution ends up in the report and makes a difference it's not just the standard security tests that companies carry out on it it actually has consequences in terms of foreign policy. which are conflicts but i enjoy that out and it's worth getting paid less for a low in fact the pay is pretty decent. lucas county imagine working anywhere
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else he's a civil servant doesn't need to worry about getting fired but anonymity is everything . a few people know what i do know my immediate family and some close friends know it too. but in general the response is ok you work for the foreign intelligence agency this time obviously you can talk about it and so it. does and i'm good friends with 2 or 3 of my colleagues so if i really need to i can always drop by their offices and let off some steam all scots humans. think that must be strange leading a double life knowing things the general public will never be aware of i feel like i got a sense of what it's probably like but have i learned anything not really the b.m.d. is the secret service it's very good at making sure that what it does stay secret.
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