when do you know it's safe to trust that's a question for german chancellor angela merkel she's all for rolling out the country's 5 g. network even if it comes with the label made in china and what to do when your future depends on the people you trust today we're just asked pro-democracy demonstrators in hong kong for them the leader of hong kong kerry lamb cannot be trusted in the here and now and they say she shouldn't be trusted with their future either gulf of berlin this is the day. long people penned a very difficult time very very tough time because this single policy address could not address. the problems in society especially those reflected in the time

risk i would keep executive mrs kerry. to respond altering solve the problem. to a very free society we have freedom of speech freedom of journalists and so on all 5 months of very clear not just as far as democracy in this is an extremely complicated subject which we have to field a constitutional refined. you know i'm. capable. i mean you're shaking hong kong please step down. also coming up since we're on the subject of trust they are all democrats and they all want to be the next u.s. president last night in a televised debate they all were agreed on the one person not to be trusted. and pietschmann is the way that we establish that this man will not be permitted to

break the law over and over without consequences this president and i agree with bernie senator sanders is the most corrupt president in modern history and i think all of our history. to our viewers on p.b.s. in the united states and all around the world welcome we begin the day with the woman they do not trust the woman is hong kong's chief carrie lamb they refers to the protesters in hong kong who have become a nonstop nightmare for lamb well the pro-democracy demonstrators they would tell you that kerry lamb is not exactly the definition of a dream for them either well that mutual disaffection and distrust have been on view for all the world to see for almost half a year now protesters are demanding democratic reforms and a stop to beijing's authoritarian creep within the territory despite

a recent crackdown by police and a ban on face masks the protesters refused to go away or to be silenced today was no different. a hostile reception for kerry land const chief executive had come to deliver a speech but as fellow no mike has heckled and he could make it started. i was playing golf i told lawmakers please remain silent for you anyone who does not stay silent we will be asked to leave the chamber. under a jungle in 5 seating poco something jungle. pro-democracy lawmakers projected the slogan here the 5 demands not one less than the chamber's walls these include universal suffrage and an independent inquiry into police violence during demonstrations. when kerry didn't address any of these demands she was

shouted down forcing her to abandon her speech she wanted to live at her address via video link. no make it tanya chan is one of her mom's most vocal critics she later told t w that the chief executives time is up well absolutely absolutely i don't think she can still get her whole call and after all this muddles we can clearly see her incapability and so i think that that's very 1st step all to go forward to go forward it's her it's for her to resign as soon as possible. as night fell yet small coolest and jimmy sham a prominent protest organizer was left bleeding in the streets after at least 4 men reportedly attacked him with ham as. he supposed to say the assault was politically motivated they have found to carry on their precious hest.

well to trust or to rust and that is the question many here in germany say that the country is facing as it begins rolling out its 5 g. network now 5 g. technology it allows internet speeds a 1000 times faster than what we have today it will make the internet of things a reality autonomous all those will be possible radically everything could change but not everyone is convinced for the better in order to roll out 5 immediately germany will not be able to avoid doing business with the chinese tech giant who way it is the global leader in 5 g. equipment and germany's ally the united states have considered who are way a potential security threat its equipment a possible trojan horse concealing state espionage the us australia and japan they have blacklisted who away this is what secretary of state month pompei i

said earlier this year during a visit right here in berlin. we've been pretty clear about how we view the wrist connected to while away and 5 g. 8 assured infrastructure the internet the future must have western values imbedded within it there's a 2nd mission which is to make sure that we have to get our friends about these risks as well that we talk to them plainly openly they'll make their own sovereign decisions. who way has repeatedly rejected his asians that it could become an arm of beijing but china's national security laws they are very clear about the role of chinese companies in assisting the communist party on demand german chancellor angela merkel she is certainly aware of all of this yet she has decided not to exclude who away from the 5 g. bidding process not to follow intelligence advice from the u.s. now that is unusual for america and it is risky so what is it about who weighs

products that could become weaponized we have this report tonight from serbia where they can talk from experience. this camera is one of more than 1000 on the streets of the serbian capital belgrade the 5 g. software which connects them is able to identify and track individuals local authorities argue the system created by chinese telecommunications giant while way helps reduce crime in the city of 2000000 but critics say the system is not well suited to that task. monitoring the entire population and to every single point in time a bit of an overkill when it comes to this petty crime and there. would be a surveillance in general. statistics and the studies show that it's only again these crimes critics say this violence can be used to trial political opponents

making them vulnerable to retribution serbia's police are accused of leaking footage of protests to pro-government tabloid media to identify and intimidate demonstrators. we've had very bad experiences with the treatment of the citizens data by the state bodies and primarily security structures even sensitive data such as health and welfare or party or union affiliation this data has been brutally abused on several occasions and used against the regime critics or opponents although that's a criminal act and punishable by law. although beijing has been forging closer ties with belgrade including joint police patrols way denies accusations of chinese spying and says the technology is simply to make cities safer. are for more tonight i'm joined here at the big table by thorsten better he's co-founder and director of the global public policy institute here in berlin person

it's good to have you back on this so i want to show our viewers the text from germany's new. guidelines on 5 g. because this is the part that's really raising some eyebrows and see if we can pull that up and show our viewers it reads to provide assurance of the trustworthiness of the supplier the commission company shall obtain a comprehensive declaration from them the declaration must relate to all components and where appropriate functionalities relevant to security as well as providing complete information on the supplier now that's a lot of contract language for saying basically you have to certify that your trust worthy is that good enough when we're talking about something is important as 5 g. networks for a company or a country is certainly not good enough this is critical infrastructure has grave national security and technological sovereignty implications and now what the german government in this draft guidelines has agreed on is that huawei just needs

to self declare that it's trustworthy and then it gets allowed to provide up to 2 thirds of the german 55 g. network that's not at all taking these security concerns seriously that are not just raised by the u.s. and australia by the way the german intelligence services see it that way the german interior ministry sees it that way the german foreign office has grave concerns about this their big industrial policy considerations because the european suppliers that have excellent technology. ericsson and not nokia find themselves in an unfair competition with huawei and need to be supported but chancellor merkel out of fear of retribution would get us a little side of it that she wants to allow huawei in although she i think understands the security risks that are associated with if there were a different relationship to the united states right now if there were

a different president do you think that miracle's decision would be different no i don't think it would be different because. what she's afraid of retaliation retribution by the chinese government we have the german government against german companies and our companies is even. there in to the china business the very dependent up to 3040 percent of their revenue is dependent on the market in china and i think anglo american has decided that maybe compounded by trump and the volatility has injected it is certainly a factor but i do think it's just the fear of retribution that's informing her but we're talking about the profit sources for companies for german companies that profits which is outside of the country in china but 5 g. that we're talking about security inside the country i mean those are 2 they're not

of course they're not related. ones much i would assume that for her the security of the country should be much more important than the profits would top solve but i think she sells out the longer term security implications that will materialize in 4 or 5 years only to her worries about short term potential economic wrists today who weighs top executive in europe published a letter about 5 g. in europe in this segment called our attention let's pull that up it reads europe is open and inclusive and it is this openness and inclusive of the which allows us to work together effectively we understand each other's points of view and reconcile each other's interests this exchange of ideas will move us forward together that. because coming from a chinese company it's beyond comical because. first of all it's a very proud partner of the party state and it's in the repression in. other

provinces in china it supports the civilians and repression operad is there and does so proudly and in addition. is of course beholden to the chinese government and ultimately under its control if push comes to shove then to say that they share the european values of the rule of law and openness. it's a sales pitch but a sales pitch that for me is beyond comical take a look at this other part of the letter it's also. interesting to say the least it reads the 1st industrial revolution was forged in europe out of industry the 2nd and 3rd industrial revolutions were led by america through mass production and digitalisation now he says i think it is only fitting that the 4th industrial revolution should again see europe at the forefront. that is also that that's not

realistic 1st of all but does he mean europe with china exactly europe with using technology and i think the party state has made it very clear that they want to be the leaders of what he calls the 4th revolution they have made in china 2025 and they want to be the artificial intelligence leader and 2030 so we in germany these were just draft guidelines that were british so it's important and they were drafted by a minor cybersecurity agency in the german system because merkel wanted to have it out of the hands of professionals and parliamentarians and out of the broader political process she delegated down delegated down in to a lower administrative level and right now it's up to parliamentarians there quite a few german members of parliament who are very concerned about the mistake we're making with these guidelines and parliament can just take things into their own hands and pass a law that would actually take our security concerns seriously our technological

sovereignty concerns and also the industrial policy concerns that are associated with this monumental decision that i think we shouldn't delegate to a minor agency if it stays this way to be interesting to see how washington reacts to it either way though not just washington is also a question of european unity because we're just very much on their minds a common standard within the european union poland has been very critical francis is critical and if the biggest european country just sells it out itself out to china it. sends a terrible signal for somebody with a global public policy institute thorson as always we appreciate your time and your insights thank you thank you. for us foreign policy it was one of the main points up for debate last night the stage was crowded as 12. democratic presidential candidates faced off on live television there was

almost unanimous condemnation of president trump's decision to withdraw all u.s. forces from northern syria and there was a unified front of attacks launched at elizabeth warren who could very well eclipse joe biden and become the party front runner. as they took to their podiums the democratic presidential candidates appear to be united at least on one thing all 12 say they want to see president donald trump impeached. and pietschmann is the way that we establish that this man will not be permitted to break the law over and over without consequences former vice president joe biden was asked during the debate about his and his son's dealings in ukraine one of the issues at the center of the trump impeachment probe president my son did nothing wrong i did nothing wrong i carried out the policy of the united states government

in rooting out corruption in in ukraine gaiden and elizabeth warren are seen as the favorites of the democratic race war and challenging died in as the front runner found herself increasingly attacked the candidates also criticized president trump's decision to withdraw u.s. troops from syria treat now being fired on by a shot by assad's people and the president and state say if those if those isis folks escape from the prisons or they'll only go to europe would affect the democratic when i will take on president trump who is seeking reelection in november 2020. or will the united kingdom begin leaving the european union on october 31st we will know the answer to that sometime tonight the use chief works in negotiations michel barnier said today that high pressure last minute because you must produce a result by the end of today tomorrow is the start of a summit of e.u.

leaders and will be the final opportunity for the european union to discuss and say yes or no to a break the deal to keep in mind that deal would that have to be passed by the u.k. parliament as well here is what the irish prime minister said today about those talks. we have a pathway to a possible deal but there are issues still to be fully resolved it has to work for the people of ireland it means avoiding a hard border between north and south that's always been the government's primary objective ensuring that the all island economy can continue to develop and the north side cooperation as invasion by the good friday agreement can resume and just as important to protect the single market its integrity and our place in it those are our objectives and this is always been about achieving those objectives and i am confident that can be achieved. all right i'm happy to welcome the night here at the big table 2 brothers matthew and michael yelled and i get the last name right you to believe they are linked which means soldiers are linguist they're polyglots

they're citizens of global britain is well gentlemen welcome to the show. you called our attention because you are advertising yourselves as twins who speak many languages how many languages do you speak fluently 1st of all fluently so we're really as if you know like oh mother tongue or mother tongues than 10 and we've learned over 25 languages and are constantly looking to learn more can you name the languages really fast that you speak fluently video doing this irish or french spanish german or chinese italian danish french. all right so you are poly what brits yes did you vote for breaks it absolutely you know is the only language you would never want to lend his device in his home fall is pointless there is a language to break to do that and no one is getting the apparently votes of i mean how do you explain what has happened and is happening in your home country things

i've got to like to say as something to do with being an island but then i saw in shows everybody else that that's not the that's not so they were also high fives as well and island is very very well within the within the e.u. and he's a very active partner. it's quite baffling sometimes to figure out why. it is happening the white house is about to happen and i think sometimes this island mentality does play a role in that we remember very well those who both stood in line which is a school locally we had to on available to us friends i'm german that is no longer the case it's right that it's been changed students in the u.k. are no longer required to learn a foreign language right which was a disaster yeah well i mean i agree with you but tell me what you think it's a disaster i think this is disaster in many of the many reasons. we both teach. on a regular basis we both we're taught children and adults. language is

a very. probably the biggest part of our lives shows simply that language is not just that isn't important in languages in my in our opinion the most important thing there is actually without language we wouldn't be able to communicate and therefore i would say britain in this sense is sending this clear signal to the rest of the world if not you know to the rest of europe because britain is your whether it likes whether it thinks it is or it isn't was it isn't it will continue to be your and it's sending a signal that we don't need that and i think if anything we need more language learning more language to doing more communication more than ever why aren't there more people like you in the u.k. saying these things i think there are think there's a very sizeable minority that thinks that i think however coming from in perspective it's not only something that we find in england are in britain to say you also find in the states in australia it's almost as if we have this we'd like to think you have a genetic gene that makes those unable to learn

a language the curse of the english being the lingua franca of the world all right we don't have to learn another way around it really if we think that we took 40 percent at least of our own language from other languages and made it what it is which is a brilliant language just like any other languages but yeah our language is so international. i say that we would like to you i mean when i look at your story you 2 are i say you're the the brakes that british irony in card 8 i mean if you consider that i mean you're let's say you're polyglots you're european brits you live in a time when breaks it is promised with global britain but it's being delivered in dimensions that look like little britain absolutely i mean i see that from the outside i see that what about at home though how do you how do you think people are

pushed perceive what they're being told. i think is does a very important very important and interesting question because many people have been for those that you voted for a very good deal of people now they said that they were lied to join the company. and there's been enough evidence to show the has been the case especially with the fall the states all of the alarming figure is in regard to the n.h.s. . has now been said by politicians out of the i was not the kind it's again goes to show how important languages are extra in telling the truth how important it is to tell the truth do you consider yourselves to be europeans. do you consider yourselves to be more european then british english i mean what is it is there a hierarchy i think is. also immediately so i think it's a very nice happy medium. so not only british but irish and also european and american i think to be all 3 i think you can fit all 3 i mean you know the case

because we come from a british irish family i think for us it's very we are very british we're also very irish and we were extremely european and i see no contradiction in that was some of the i think it's a wonderful thing you know i think the whole the whole development is fascinating and you also come from a country that once you had an empire that the sun did not. that all right it's amazing that you came from an island that was able to reach around the world and now it's pulling back almost like a turtle it shill do you think it is going to happen and i hope it doesn't the events of the last few years still make it. the code. as it stands right now. it's a tough one to call and if it does happen do you think that it will be reversed i would very much like you to be and i think it was a quiet good there's very few things give you

a little britain that's the feeling i have generally at the moment considering all of this and i would like it to be reversed and i would like the i would say majority actually of people that you know it did back then it was 4052 . percent 52 percent against i think we're already hopefully in a situation where the majority that are against briggs and i would like. to go we're running out of time matthew michael you feel i'm going to say feel and. see and thank you guys. the date is almost done but the conversation of course as you know continues on will find us on twitter or you can follow me a british t.v. maybe we'll put that on the screen for you there you go they have time to wake up every member whatever happens between now and then tomorrow is another day we'll

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