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i wanted to show you when i arrived here i slept with 6 people in a room and sometimes it was hard i wish. i had got a white haired. thing but generally language now not this gets me a great deal but maybe to entrap let's say you want to do their story. for margaret. you're trying to frighten you know it's a fact what do you expect that it tends it's very means white dolls in fact that's what does it mean extreme right often it's not. the 1st quake they expected would you mind letting me finish my sentences put those.
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it's no secret figure of populist and nationalist parties gearing up to try to make a splash at the coming european elections but who's helping them we are nationalists we are suckers so we believe all our members we're all one with their own. vision and principle in respect of all what this except you're using comfortable phrases like it's a club meant for the exchange of ideas from nationalist populist movements across you're talking strategy yeah it's a bang and it's far more combative than that isn't it he called it governing up the e.u. parliament in other words blocking your purpose is essentially destructive isn't a no it's to review not building you know you're breaking yards no way up we are reinforcing and rebuilding the preeminence of the national what did he say he said the beating heart of the globalist. project is in brussels if i drive the stake
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through the valley the whole thing will start and dissipate will produce self-important play. if we we analyze the situation in the sense that the e.u. system like the us ultimately ends up imperialism a kind of imperialism i have confidence that the forces of democracy of real democrats in europe will be stronger than these autocrats and i hope they will because indeed there is a rise of populism in europe doesn't look like well wait for the results of the 21000 elections and then we'll talk i know you did better in bavaria and you done a little better in your seat but there but they're very strong and they're very powerful and we will see whether they keep getting strength and i doubt it will see it's the backs you particularly noticeable i know you said it in 2013 if you're black go back and i want to stone here to be a white country these were your words in turkey 13 television talk show here.
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but i mean were roundly condemned by other politicians including the human rights group here in parliament 80 percent of stern and. there was apologists own 80 percent of stern and agreed with that statement so take it as it is conveyed to. him and you would have been you would have won the elections you know win the elections you. did very well but i want to use about the status of this visit. this is what. he says. we will get to the racism issue what you want with all this crackdown on migrants you want to preserve your identity and son we want to preserve the italian and european identity we want to why it's all nationalist parties across europe you want to see more white nationalist people are pushing that idea the dented area and it's not a matter of why. national parties the league is not
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a white nationalist party lorenzo's from turn our city sewer and identity conception of politics awaking all across europe. means white person that that's what i said we are meeting was to protect the european identity the european christina roots for example the european culture detail and culture but it is you that is giving to this identity. the. aracely the blow up and that's not the demeaning in any way that the league and our representatives are doing so we want to protect the cultural roots the christian roots of europe is not hard to work with you go around saying muslims equal threat was equal to over in the reading that not only i'm a log some people are going to react badly and some people are going to turn violent we want to keep the german germination they don't even the european union
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but we're talking about germany here we don't want to have that a muslim country we accept muslims there are lots of muslims who are well integrated into our society who take there is no problem everything's fine but what we do not want to accept is that islam is starting to have an impact on our social life and our public life on our you know. you're not addressing the point i wanted to make about about this idea that muslims are a threat to germany. muslims are spread to jews this is for example something what we're we're getting from the jewish community the jewish community isn't working on a new world let's face it the situation in venezuela could hardly be more complex the united states along with some 2 dozen countries is backing the new interim leader. russia and china support incumbents ridiculous. now we have france spain germany. and britain who have
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recognized the new interim leader as president how long can you go on with this people are defecting from the administration one of your colleagues and as well as the iraq defected accusing maduro of violating the constitution that is his right and their force general near force military in washington no military trash in washington is gone how long can he hold on you doesn't depend on that i mean a president doesn't hold or doesn't hold on because of for in our countries ask them or like them or not he's impoverished the country and he's subject to the massive repression well i think the aim here is to have the transition that is taking place continue to take place peacefully we met with the. we met with. one white goes representative the new ambassador to the united states and one boy
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go is the president of venezuela at the present time we believe strongly that the morning to you we believe strongly that the. that the venezuelan people should be commended for the way that they've handled this they used the rule of law to rep to remove. mr maduro he's still going he's still there some of them could would you mind let me finish my sentence as plain as the international community is going to want why dr recognition is that i mean i got it from inside the country that you know he absolutely does have it from inside the country said people on the streets that's not the same thing isn't what it what do you expect that people on the streets as power people on the streets it's love. people on the street support people on the streets as an expression i mean it can come and go and the governor palin and her allies her future and it can come and go well the people that are supporting. the girl are the rogue's gallery in the world including
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the iranians. the the russians the north koreans pull frosting on mccain you know is he was is a sense that you don't think this is a stalemated situation so it's not now all the countries that are liberal democracies that have the rule of law recognize our constitution and they recognize the legitimacy of one why they are that we are in a situation where a drug cartel has taken all the levers of power by the way doesn't mean you're going to succeed does it doesn't mean you're going to see or you die trying we have no option but to fight for our people i will fight for my people until i draw my last breath how long do you think president maduro can hold on now 6 years i hope the. weeks of mass process to hong kong show no sign of coming to an end but how long will break you put up with you more than a few weeks ago
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a few days ago that if things got worse the chinese army might consider taking to the streets you said when there's trouble in hong kong when things turn silence violence in our history our fear is that if the police are now able to control what is happening here there's a remote risk the chinese army would get involved how remote is that risk that if it's so out of the way why did you why did you mention no i hope you will never happen why did you mention if it is a remote risk you're trying to frighten people no it's a fact everybody understand except you you don't understand it. hong kong is a place where it is being operating is operating under the one country 2 systems it is a not very successfully is it calm it's a huge political compromise we are part of china under the basic law china has a responsibility to ensure that hong kong is stable everybody who is doing business
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here want to see hong kong to be stable all right so yes under the basic law there is provision for the the beijing government to interfere if nobody hoped that it would happen i'm trying to say that we are trying to of avoid this happening so i'm not insane in fear into people i'm simply reflecting what is stated in the basic law and what is the political reality of the situation of course we created size the hong kong government especially the council tried to establish a law which your hong kong residents disagree and doesn't trust so that the show you the latest carries out your that do you the chief executive you blame the carrier kerry land the chief exec she's beijing's appointing russian history she is the appointee even so-called elected by some hong kong representation is still there why is why hasn't she was more ask hong kong people as common people is there democracy in seriousness than we need we in hong kong
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need to gain the trust and confidence of beijing so that they can allow us the freedom of political reform what about the other way around what about beijing's duty to earn the trust of people in hong kong one spot where is where they have managed you know this is why hasn't it runs both ways only 2 years they have managed its own about unfair and then been doing of the most of try these when you knows all show that people do not of the majority of people still do not identify it was just something i don't face all the beijing or my national guard would have to work on them. everybody would come to work harder you think the people of hong kong should play nice to their masters in beijing i might throw the crumbs i do use only to use over the words the words i use is that we should communicate with each other and wish to instill confidence in each other that's what i'm saying while china is not using force to press down the demonstration why they compromise why because they seek opportunity to prove they can challenge. this week on big
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zone is that the annual security conference in munich amid plenty of recriminations and bad blood between europe and washington are you trying to tell me that europe has lived up to its commitments under nato is that what you're trying to tell me because believe me there is no belief or that on anybody's part that some of the european nations are not living up to their commitments and indeed look i've done this for 10 years i've come over here and tried to talk the nato countries into living up to their agreements they patted her son in the head and said all well we're on track to try to do this or try to do that let me put it bluntly the problem is that many member states don't trust donald trump do this his commitment to nato why should that i mean he's done everything he could to undermine trust that he's 100 percent behind it you know i haven't seen that clearly donald trump
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has shaken things up there's no question about it he's gotten off a bit more than that is not my only allies to sit up and take notice because he was very concerned about the lack of fair burden sharing inside the alliance and he wanted allies to pay more in his inimitable way he got everybody to pay attention to the necessity of putting more money into their defense budgets translate into the merkel said last year that there were good reasons to continue fighting for the transatlantic relationship but we had it she added we can't count on it anymore. well i i'm sorry she feels like that we don't feel like that in the business of representatives they had so little confidence in chumps intentions toward nato that last year they had to pass a law with bipartisan support stating that is u.s. policy to remain a member of nato predicating funs to be used to withdraw from the alliance so little confidence do they have in the president's commitment to meet her a i saw that as
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a great expression in washington of bipartisan support for nato and i saw it when we were there 10 days ago for the 70th anniversary nato as well supported across both sides of the aisle that's a great thing why why are you going off isaac and not by the president there are $200.00 countries in the world right the vast majority of them believe that brock obama's brand of leadership was far better than either george bush is or down from you see the curve go like this under obama and then like this under trump and europe and asia and latin america and africa and so we can talk about israel where president obama had very sharp differences with a right wing government led by bibi netanyahu but i don't think that it wasn't just it wasn't just the sharp differences there were deep contradictions in the middle east policy good well we i mean you have a core belief in which you voted against the president to nk or on israel this was rooted largely in the iran nuclear agreement and if we had to do it over again if the price of having a better relationship with israel was not having iran nuclear agreement and
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potentially going to war with iran that was not a price that we were going to pay all the latest polls show the french germans the british now regard the u.s. as a greater danger to their interests than china would you regard as your prime danger how much blame do you think washington should take for that. well. sometimes events drive us in a direction that we shouldn't be driven. we. we don't feel the same way about our european. friends or were more like kerry you know there are a lot of recriminations these days to get over iran. in regard to the round deal that europe continues to abide by surely one that you get out of well we didn't walk out of it the president states at that time barack obama entered into that agreement. over the objection of
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a lot of us it did not have the things in it that it needed to have and it was very weak it did indeed address one issue but i viewed the iran. deal as a deal to try to discipline a bad boy in the classroom that was doing 5 bad things they addressed one of them but they're interested a big one didn't they dress one of them a big one they have dressed one of them ben rhodes in the short time that we have left let's look ahead to the next presidential election next year. what kind of democratic party do you think is going to be capable of beating donald trump with his massive following his dominance of the airways his dominance of social media which proved so devastating in the last presidential election what kind of democratic voters he's going to be able to i think counteract the current. the massive following is 40 percent he is the most unpopular us president to run for
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reelection in my life he sets the news agenda there is a very well then doesn't they dominate is that it takes a look at what has this got to live with the world as it is very much at the democratic party just routed down from republican party to going from 140 seats in the house yeah and the one by the largest popular vote margin in the history of mid-term election the largest democratic victory in the house since watergate. voters in the european parliament elections have shaken out the continent's politics turning away from the major power. blobs that have dominated brussels in recent years and boosting the smaller groupings the greens the liberals and the far right apparently european voters weren't so keen on the status quo in the more do you accept the share of the blame for the for the 1st voter participation has been very very high historically 51 percent more or less in medium in in all of europe but they don't like the status quo blood came out to say that but is liberal
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democratic legitimacy to european institutions shows that people start to understand how relevant to european union is and that it really affects their daily life and they future their one mark and ability they want more transparency i think they will. ask much more participation for whatever is going on around europe in the future that's a nice way of spinning it isn't that the top jobs were carved up in the kind of backroom stitch up that people were told wasn't going to happen again and it did it did despite all these promises why you let the voters than not i mean 1st of all why do you speak about the backroom deal i mean it was so transparent. and all the process of the names in the game i think it was very very true not according to the outgoing commission president he called it not very transparent quite an indictment from john burns it wasn't it's true but i don't have to agree with him on this point i think it's not the best process but it's the process that this is right in
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the treaties people are losing faith they leave here's the paradox isn't that pious level of support for membership since 1903 but more than half the people of europe think he is likely to collapse within a generation all the while for the 1st breath this is also the legacy is that our society is out of the chaos and implosion that unfortunately we have seen in the u.k. has been a vaccination rather than infection for the rest of europe we have seen so you should be stronger so as a result of that we have seen if i can finish my sentence to you're a barometric country of to count tree if you're planning on popularity has increased even him hungary with a few exceptions czech republic and we have seen one after the extreme right political parties dropping the agenda of leaving the european union and leaving the euro why all the doubts about whether the e.u. can actually stay together i mean spain's foreign minister yours a barrel was asked in the interview if it was so fragile if europe was so fragile
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it could break up his comment was honestly yes honestly yes yes so europe has always been growing start out of big crisis we were born out of the ashes of world war 2. and there we al it is that is one of the best places in the world to live we never had it so good in europe but voters are the they are very disappointed very disappointed and it was supposed to be about them you were seeing the turnout go down in every single election since the european elections started and this was the big push to rope more people in because they were going to be listened to and they weren't yes i mean the call it's a bit this is a big failure whichever way you like to spin it but it is a big i mean the publication of democracy representative democracy is what i'm talking about but the participation in the european elections has been raised also because of the better understanding of the citizens about the need of the because the expectation they might actually be listened to that's why they voted they were
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told it was going to be different let's just go back to europe and the new political landscape after the european elections if he is joining the. identity and democracy group which is going to be the 5th largest group in the european parliament not the 3rd largest which is what you were aiming for your party promises to be a thorn in the flesh of the stuff what does that mean she's going to block and disrupt create trouble now what we're trying to get out is the message that we're in favor of the european union and it has been set up by the founding fathers of the your opinion we're against the effortless a union we want to keep the server serenity of the nation states what we think is that democracy only functions within a nation state and we want to work together where it is necessary to do so but we do not want to move towards ever closer you know extreme right populist did not
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have. the earthquake they expected to have been actually have an earthquake or scandals and the liberal liberal conservative forces are stronger than previously the greens advanced the socialist collapsed dick stream left lost almost 50 seats find i have to go there was no far right at all was there so you hold the door open for them during the last 5 years i think this is not the time for blame game me this is the time to stand for the truth isn't it time to look at what happened the achievements of the last 5 years back to reach a passing variance come to being a board disunited kingdom and more damage to weaker government the reason why was a very minor heart was never in the thing so you why you saw it as a kind of damage limitation exercise so you say that she said she was quite concerned to deliver back that she promised on innumerable occasions to deliver back she failed and in the end i'm afraid we'll have to face well sure the party
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lost confidence and so did the house of commons but there was a lot of ignorance on the leaf side wasn't that i mean even among some of the most visible campaigners like boris johnson for instance when he was questioned on t.v. last september turned out he didn't know that switzerland was in the single market and refused to accept it when he was told that was the trouble i'm not responsible for what policy is the we voted to let your living breaks it and you hear this sort of nonsense come out why don't you say this is wrong or british people deserve the referendum result to be implemented it isn't the truth you told them and i something they deserve and they don't deserve a lot of them pays to say they accept the referendum results and they are campaigning against it you happy that boris johnson being ordered to appear in court over claims that he lied during the referendum well over this 350000000 pounds a week to be well the person he's done by his is an absolute on the line and actually if it's not matter well yes of course it why it doesn't have
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a bearing on the. merrit. well it does because clearly he's doing it from a particular perspective if the aim is to damage boris it will have precisely the opposite effect you know i do advise our european partners not to overplay their hand what your negotiator seem to obsess about is that britain must appear to lose from this absolutely not i mean you have made it clear that leave leaving the e.u. is a mistake and that should become a self-fulfilling prophecy now no written has to lose its loses britain has to look i mean you played the part but that again is a lunacy i mean. no we just say that membership of the european union has benefits and of course if you're not very you don't enjoy those benefits it's not punishment it just statement of fact the is the largest trading group in the world they hold all the cards it's their club that you're leaving they will decide what rules apply should you wish to take advantage of some of the. privileges on offer with that
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club yeah i think but i thought we had in our manifesto 18 months or so ago was that we wanted to create a comprehensive training arrangement with them and they've agreed on those have come and in every one of those would be japan i'd be quite happy just to replicate the terms of that you've been saying that no deal is increasingly attractive but that's not what you and your vote lead colleagues promised the country was it time and again they promised great deals with the you and everyone else and said to just fall into britain slap to them that turns out to be a student well. i have to confess that i think it's in the european union's interests to strike a sensible free trade deal with the united kingdom. and whether we make that agreement before we leave which looks rather unlikely or after we leave i believe that that's what will happen but in the end my point is that we're broken promises we're the vote leave campaign didn't make promises we were campaigning it's
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a destroyed city. philip in the sights of ah yes starts october 24th on d w. this is date of you news live from berlin could a brecht's a deal be within reach a head of a crucial east summit in brussels later today chance or on the back wall says work still needs to be done to finalize an agreement on the u.k.'s departure from the e.u. also coming up. a u.s. delegation heading to turkey to broker a cease fire in northern syria the u.s.
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