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you've been fischman to british show waters under conditions to be negotiated and of course they'll be access for british processed products to the. e.u. market all that will have to be treated together and which will be constructive and we take this as a priority for us thank you. will go. so federal clearing off a home you're watching a press conference that given by donald. leo vodka and michelle a body the president of the a european. the european council the president of the european commission. to shock the prime minister of ireland and a user chief breaks it to negotiate all of them expressed regret at the fact that britain is to leave the e.u. that express that beth thanks to the various parties involved and the point was
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made that the door is still open should britain change survived at some stage or in the future there was a question put to them from the floor what would you what would you say to the 48 percent in britain who voted to remain gentle the younger said you were right let's bring into this conversation that here in the studio with me. is that d w d w. editor robert most also in brussels is there is a good matter let's start with you robert what jumped out to you from the last 1015 minutes or so the 48 percent thing right i think was the big no i think. the 8 i think is pretty going to brave face here saying that finally managed to reach a day i think a lot of people are probably at least 2nd time it at this stage and that's why
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they're quite happy so actually have something that you know on paper may look good but as i was saying earlier i think the celebrations a premature and i'm still trying to get my head around what makes this deal different from the deal that the reason they try to push through parliament on 3 occasions and failed to me it sounds looks like it's a non stop back stuff and of the border issue. for one. see the day you're signing off on that. day so i think he's put on a brave face and said the ball is now in the u.k. school once again. we'll see what they do with it. all sorry about the. masses in brussels we can talk about so much what we heard him just say but i just want to just make the point that when we heard michel
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barnier say they're talking about the fisheries which to some is quite a dried out interesting subject but he said it was actually making the point that even though we have agree with this is still the start even if it happens this is the still the start of a longer process of ironing out the details. absolutely phil look it is called the revised withdrawal agreement and this agreement is only there to allow for a transition phase so for a bit more than a year where everything remains the same that period could be prolonged and then in that time it did not go the real negotiations about a future trade relationship are about to continue german chancellor angela merkel just gave a press conference at the difference to to reserve made deals is that we now know a lot more concrete what the u.k. has in mind about this future relationship which is in case of boris johnson very
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slim fair trade deal markedly different from the much closer relationship the reason may had in mind and you're exactly right so a lot of battlegrounds is still in front of us particularly fisheries but also the whole trade relationship where will we go for like any other free trade deal that takes years to form this one will be equally difficult also fight for that also joining us from london. welcome gets so i'm interesting few days ahead for the british prime minister a. british parliament is sitting in an extraordinary session on saturday he's got a big mountain to climb as we. really feel it's far from sad that he's going to what he has agreed to in brussels that he'll get through here in london in this parliament we know that there is a lot of opposition to the deal labor is mostly not going to pay for this deal
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we also know that d.d. u.p. the northern irish polity that is propping up the johnson's government that they are opposed to a day of fearing that northern ireland will be treated differently from the rest of the u.k. and they are unionists they want to stay as closely aligned to the u.k.'s possible and a. special status that northern ireland has that there might be a future pool which is more towards the european union through all the close ties that northern ireland still will house in the future with process with the rest of the un with all and they feel it's going to go more into a direction of the e.u. and they don't like that then we also know and i've spoken to a few n.p.c. it's a day that there are a lot of m.p.'s who are still hoping that somehow bracks it is not going to happen that they can have another referendum they once you put it back to the british
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people they want to tell them well this is how brics it looks like do you really still want it and they are hoping that they can persuade the people in this new referendum to actually stop threats and so there's a lot going on here in london at the moment and it's really not sure that was johnson will get his deal through. matters that let's put to you that there are the big question of the day just before the press conference dr robert much and i were talking about. the significant differences between the deal. you in britain have now agreed on and the deal that trace of may have kicked out of the parliament of 3 times so robert describe it as sort of known stop. out of line for us what's being proposed and why it's different. i don't want to bore you with the technical details here but really what this deal looks very much like is the initial deal that the european union put forward to theresa
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may including a backstop a solution to avoid and in irish border. should the u.k. finally leave the european union leave the customs union and leave the internal market now the arrangement we have in place now as i would say let's say a bit more than cosmetic changes there are some real changes here there's been compromises on both sides but it is still a very similar solution on paper to northern ireland which is part of the u.k. would remain in the customs union but in reality there will be checks along the border for a good stew enter northern ireland so effectively they will be part of the customs union and that is exactly the reason why do you peter rejected the initial deal that was put forward at the time and pretty reason may was prime minister and the same is why they are objecting this deal today so robert much. of the hiring is done we've heard this there's still lots to be done that some of
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the politicians but you think amongst the people in the u.k. that there is going to be a sense of. glad that let's let's just get it done. difficult to say specially if you consider the sas and say we're going to see another reference from the. turn as expected so i think you still got the discount the forsake the sense they were right. and on the other hand i think you do have a lot of people who probably reached the point where they say whatever it is just get it done ok because we've actually breaking point so we've said we we heard before from the press conference from the big wigs at the european union where we've heard from ireland. and from as well that reaction is coming in now let's hear from the leader of the bracks of the u.k.'s breck said nigel farage but he is
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a comment on this thing. which is no it's not a deal let's just be clear what we're talking about it was and it's a new e.u. treaty the mrs may agree to a year ago he got rejected 3 times boris got elected saying you get rid of the backstop and the e.u. to change the backstop they've turned it into something which some would say is better some would say is worse we affectionately divided our country we've got a border which really you know you get them and northern ireland. so let's let's. get mass in london bergen i get the feeling that there are some. breaks it is in the u.k. boris johnson could walk on water and they would still say it's not good enough. interesting that you say that phil actually my impression was in the last days that a lot of brick city is who really really wanted maybe not liking for. m.p.'s
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from one conservative party that they were really backing him and they are backing essentially a similar deal because the scribe like the one the 2 reason may had put forward and they were always very critical and they voted it down no they trust boris johnson much more to actually deliver bread to because he food with them he was one of the leading bricks a ts suit he has a lot more trust in his own party in his own brick city apart you know not for us of course might have a different motive because he's not of johnson's party but he's basically trying to be more bricks and boris johnson say you know he has his own his own party political interests and probably would be very difficult for those johnson to come up with something that he would support ok. so we've heard from some of the politicians let's hear from reaction on the streets from what to see what people in
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london up are saying today. that this it's been cobbled together just to satisfy as they say this is just gay. and i don't think it's going to. be in any way acceptable if you make these names deal with many different tweaks into a it's not worth having it won't be of any use to us and it might be the thing you know well actually it's worse than. actually remaining well i think we should keep things simple like the original voting documents. cummings vote referendum. all he said on the document was leave or remain missing about dodgy deals you know we don't want to leave group b. deals we just want out ok i think it is being reaches since we're. not going to get it through in time we have there is no option they have to get an
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extension and then the deal can be analyzed really just like mase deal it would be for. going back to go to. brussels regardless of the skepticism that we just heard that from people on the streets of london do we expect this to go through on the nod at tonight's leaders' meeting. a german chancellor angela merkel in a press conference was a while was asked a 2nd the question what if that deal falls through and what she said i'm going to just interrupt you sorry that that's later interrupt you i'm told that the boris johnson as not speaking on this dale. because your own code your income presents the commission for all the posts or effort that he has put into getting this deal done and i want to stress that this is a great deal for our country for the u.k.
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i also believe it's a very good deal for our friends in the e.u. and what it means is that we in the u.k. can come out of the e.u. as one united kingdom england scotland wales northern ireland and together and it means we can decide our future together we can decide who can take back control as the phrase goes of our money our borders. together and we will be able to do free trade agreements around the world and we can also. build now after 3 and a half years we can build now on our relations with our friends and partners in the e.u. and it so be a very exciting period as it were to get to that the positive side of that project to the the extraction having been done the building now begins and i'm very
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confident that when my colleagues in parliament study this agreement that they will want to vote troops on saturday and then and in succeeding days this is our chance in the u.k. as democrats to get bricks eat done and come out on october 31st is our chance to focus on our priorities the people's priorities the n.h.s. putting 20000 police on the streets lifting up funding and education across the country the biggest expansion. of the living wage those are the things i think the people of our country want us to be focusing on in addition to bricks that we've we've got these now as i say. for 3 and a half he is it hasn't always been an easy experience for the u.k. it's being long it's been painful it's been divisive and now is the moment for us
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as a country to come together now this is a moment for our parliament areas to come together and get this thing done and as i say to begin building a new and progressive partnership with you friends with whom course we share so many priorities now i have to go to you know. the late thirty's to i'm told to keep this very tight indeed but i'm going to i'm going to go to. north korea back to the b.b.c. and thanks very much for this very tight 2 very quick questions why are you confident this can get free parliament when it doesn't seem to be the case at hand and what will you do if this falls on saturday well thanks for i think that there is as i say a very good case for peace across the house of commons to express the democratic will of the people as we pledge many to.

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