darkness has fallen and it's still peaceful and they have remained so for your sakes my grandchildren also i flame. the birth of our family and so starts no member 60 on d.w. . a break sit deal again $600.00 pages outlining how the u.k. will depart the european union but most of it we've read before in fact one of the only difference is this time around is the name of the british leader pushing the deal tonight back to the future with bracks it this coming saturday prime minister boris johnson will ask the u.k. parliament to approve this new plan if we recent history is any guide lawmakers will decide to make this deal the moment when breaks it begins or the moment when breaks it begins its end yet again i'm bored berlin this is the day.

i have i have to say that i'm happy about it but upset the book works now is the money trust to get briggs's done when there is the will there is a deal we don't know until these groupie deals with just one alice. good to go get it through and so i hope very much not speaking of the next to get them stupid good . news in the west but stuff. come together to get it done my and my call for the next based instead the wheel holds in all bloggers i think it's just a phrase that will be an evolving cycle quite some time yes.

also coming up seriously syria the u.s. president sent a letter to the turkish president which read don't be a fool that but every part of the ended up in the trash democrats met with the u.s. president to talk about syria that meeting ended in a meltdown i pray for the president all the time that talent and pay for the safety and multiple heat now we have to pay for his health the since was a very serious commitment to the principle leadership or said he called you 3rd grade and he's a great kerry way for a night. to our viewers on p.b.s. in the united states and all around the world welcome we begin today with yet another briggs deal and yet another possibility that it will be shut down by the u.k. parliament after 3 days of nonstop negotiations leaders of the european union and the u.k. today announced that they have struck a deal a plan for the u.k.

to depart the e.u. in an orderly fashion beginning october 31st on both sides there is consensus that a no deal breaks it would be a lose lose situation where now it's up to u.k. prime minister boris johnson to convince parliament that this deal is a win win or at least a win for the u.k. on saturday lawmakers will convene to debate and vote for the 4th time on whether to approve or reject the brics it withdrawal agreement former prime minister to resume a tried tried and tried again eventually resigned with briggs it unfinished but there are 2 differences this time around this latest breaks it does not include the controversial irish border backstop and the leader declaring this deal is the only way forward this time it's boris johnson i want to stress that this is a great deal fool country for the u.k. i would say believe it's a very good deal for friends in the us and we can also. build

now after 3 and a half years we can build now on our relations with friends and partners in the e.u. i'm very confident that when my colleagues in parliament study this agreement they will want to vote troops what i can say today is that our objectives as are the ones under syrup the national citizens' rights are protected it's those you citizens living in the u.k. and also u.k. citizens living in the european union we have actual settlement there be no hard border between north. the size of the all island economy will continue to develop the north side cooperation as a visit by the good friday agreement can resume and continue this distinguished is the present situation from the situation we found ourselves in at the time that to resume with prime minister in a kingdom at the time it was in clear what the future relationship would look like

with that there would be a membership in the past single market or not now it's very clear that great party is going to be a 3rd country and we will speedily we gave negotiating such a free trade great game and agreement with such a 3rd country plus i feel so there is frankly speaking english. because in my heart . i will always be remain well they hope to show our british friends decide story they. are the rule with beautiful thank you the door will always be open and we have complete coverage tonight of what has been a momentous day in this long history of trying to make breaks it happen from brussels where e.u. leaders are meeting is to w.'s next hoffman and in one tonight he that we use here get my ass to both of you good evening max and we start with you know we have we've come together before many times just like what we're doing tonight 3 times before the break to deal with europe wanted was then shot down by the u.k.

parliament do you sense that this deal will be the one. how i don't know if it's going to be the one you know it always takes some time to really make sure if the one is the one you really want to stick with in this case though there are some small differences to the last deal which is 1st of all as you mentioned earlier it doesn't include the ugly word backstop anymore just provider backs up was the insurance policy supposed to avoid a hard border between northern ireland which is part of the u.k. in the republic of ireland is part of the you i don't know how many times i've said this but this report and so i'm saying it say it again. it does include sort of a backstop through the back door though it's just not called that way anymore so you could say that's one difference in the wording that boris johnson will be able to sell will also be able to sell the fact that officially northern ireland remains in the same customs territory as u.k. mainland that's also success although in fact it's going to be very closely

associated to the e.u. northern ireland that is so in the customs partnership and then finally maybe you can talk about that a little more later the border and irish people will have their say whether they want to stick with this customs partnership with the e.u. or not every 4 or 8 years depending on the mode they choose so those are the main differences not sure it'll be enough to push that through the house of commons yet but i like the buyback stop part of it and begin what do you think the chances are for this present bragg's a plan when parliament convenes on saturday before you answer i want you to take a listen to what we heard today from people outside westminster take a listen. to this it's been coupled together just to satisfy as i say this is just getting. and i don't think it's going to. be in any way acceptable if mrs knight still going to need it tweaks in 12 months it still was having it might be of any use to us and it was being leaked

a little about that actually it was actually remaining well i think we should keep things simple like the original voting documents. come in as the referendum. all he said on the document was leave all remaining missing about deals you know we don't want to lose groupie deals we just won out ok i think it's a real is being reaches nonsense with a pound and not going to get it through and sign we have no there is no option they have to get an extension and then the deal can be analysed properly just like mase deal it will be for a. bigger what do you say saturday yes or no to this deal. that's a good question brant i don't really know and i don't think many people here in

london know it's going to be very very tight that's for sure we know that the northern irish pop no boris johnson the d u p the northern irish party things it's not a deal with backing they are very important the northern irish partners they basically prop up royce johnson's government and many conservative m.p.'s have so far listened to what these northern irish m.p.'s had to say say the fact that they are not backing it is not good news for boris johnson when it comes to the support of his own parliamentarians then we have labor labor that the neighbor opposition party is very rare event that in the future that the u.k. could be a very serious competitor like angela merkel has alluded to and the sound bite and you played could be maybe undermining the u.k. when it comes to regulation when it comes to work because rights could be really lowering the standards a race to the bottom is what they fear but also that just might be something to

m.p.'s that also think like the people we've had to in the outside westminster the say just you know just get it done and and move on and say it's really going to be very very tight on saturday this fades and next i want to pick up again on the irish border on the solution i want to go just pacific's about this new solution but in a needless to say there is an alternative to that irish bank stop what are you hearing from your sources is this new plan is it one that will really work or is it more or just more window dressing just to get the whole process out of the state of limbo. if you look at that brags that agreement i think it has 63 pages something like that i don't have the exact number and we've been working through it today and it's not window dressing i mean this is some serious stuff and there are not many places in the world where a document like that can be produced it's an incredible achievement really object

if you speaking didn't hammer something like that and all you need absolute experts to do it and the reason why. you know why they are working so thorley on this or have been working in the have all these details in there is because the e.u. was very very worried that those ideas put forward by the u.k. government might not be and the word was workable it needs to work and that's why this is so detailed in the end the officials here in brussels were convinced that this could work but make no mistake it's complicated super complicated i mean just imagine the customs official that has to make sense of all this of course they're not going to read that document they're going to get a simple tug version or some simple instructions but to translate all this into simple instructions for you consummate official. at the port in mainland u.k. is going to be a real challenge and of course the single market the border to the single market the customs border to the e.u. there is going to be less reliable than in other places of the european union some

things will slip through it's just just the way it is they will have to be more flexible there but that's the price the e.u. is willing to pay and max in parliament says no on saturday what happens then i'm only talking about another broadsheet extension and is the european union willing to delay again. that is the question that we've been asking here we had a whole press conference with the german chancellor i'm going to back to where all the different journalists basically asked that question and try to to nail and to nail it down to get an answer because juncture juncker the president of the you commission coming in said no extension we assumed as was supposed to be helpful. for boris johnson because on 3rd you will have no say in this it's that you leaders will have to decide that if for surveillance and or the u.k. government someone of the u.k. government comes on saturday after having lost a vote in the house of commons and asked for an extension you know what i'm going to back a sidestep that is typical she said we're not there yet we'll deal with that when

we get there. they're going to be all that you have the west question here how close do you think we are to a general election in the u.k. . boris johnson wants nothing more than a general election and with this deal that he has just had with the european union he would be going in it on the high a thing because he will have gotten this deal against the all of the you had said we are not going to open the withdrawal agreement we have you know we have close this chapter of up to half for him you know so so that's that's already that's already a victory for him also it was said that the backstop is non-negotiable bought and the backstop in the half in the ultimate form in the end a loss from at least it went suit he has got you know quite some it's events and he will go i thing into this election law and we've already seen him making moves easy had a queen's speech where he was laying out his future government proposals on health

on tough on crime so we really know that he wants to have a general election if his deal doesn't go through on saturday well then his chances of a general election happening very soon are actually quite high indeed all right so the story continues because mosques in london next often in brussels to both of you thank you. it's a great day for the united states it's a great day for turkey great day for the kurds it's really a great day for civilization a great day for civilization. that's quite a declaration to make even for us president double drop but it reveals just how relieved trump apparently is today u.s. vice president mike pence and elves that the u.s. and turkey have agreed to a cease fire in northern syria the united states is calling the 5 day stop in military operations a cease fire turkey is calling it

a suspension which means the fighting could continue now in exchange for this temporary stop in fighting turkey will see the economic sanctions slapped on it by the u.s. the 5 day ceasefire is supposed to allow kurdish forces in northern syria time to withdraw but there was no one from the kurds at the meeting between the u.s. vice president and the turkish president and there were no kurds present today when pence made that announcement turkish side will pause operation piece spring. in order to allow for the withdrawal of white p.g. forces from the safe zone. for 120 hours on military operations under operation the spring will be pause. in operation the spring will be halted entirely on completion of the withdrawal are we going to coverage of this tonight i'm joined here the big table by tyson barker he is with the aspen

institute germany and in the u.s. couple of the night i'm joined by the roar of the washington post to both of you welcome i want to start with you you wrote this week that trump is engaged in a lose lose game in syria yet we just heard the president declaring this cease fire a great day for civilization what does he know that you don't. try to be of things i'm sure. well what's happened is rather surreal in the space of less than 2 weeks trump has 1st of all green lifts this turkish operation into northeastern syria then waved around symbolic sanctions in response to a backlash here in washington and then gave away the threat of sanctions today in this deal that effectively gives the turks everything they wanted. so it's a really really quite remarkable iteration of the art of the deal that we're seeing

take place this week between ankara and washington and you know we're just getting the report now that the kurds have accepted this ceasefire how do you explain that which i mean we were not expecting that to come as they were not part of the negotiations i suppose it's not right well it's also not fully clear to what extent they've they've accepted a kind of cease fire on the zones of conflict it is not clear if they've accepted. a group sort of a greater follow or draw from the zone that turkey now expects the kurds to withdraw from part of this deal was basically the u.s. . said they would guarantee a kurdish withdrawal from a belt of territory along the syrian critics border syrian turkish border sort of deep into deep in some 2030 miles deep into syria it's not really clear if the s.d.f. the that's the acronym for the kurdish led syrian democratic forces that the u.s. has been backing for the past half decade it's not clear if they're going to be

fully were drawing across the border and it's also not clear how easily turkey can implement the understanding's of this deal and one both the assad regime. ok so we've lost that signal we're trying to reestablish that in the meantime let me ask you about the promise of new economic sanctions i mean will turkey i mean what is the u.s. congress in agreement we're going to have to see i mean i was just looking at the tweets before before it came in and there's been different messaging from lindsey graham and chris van hollen the 2 co-sponsors of the sanctions passing through the senate lindsey graham has basically said this is this is a good deal with this you we do recognize that turkey has legitimate national interests in northern syria and chris van hollen the democrats' democratic sponsor of these sanctions has said these sanctions we will continue to push them forward including with lindsey graham lindsey graham has not said the same thing the rhetoric coming out of the white house particularly from president trump himself

has been an incredibly obsequious i mean it's really him for size that they will not be putting on what was mentioned were symbolic sanctions essentially on some key figures and what i would expect to happen is the republican party in congress to rally around the president to give at least this breathing room to this pause in an action in operations in northern syria that would be my expect taken but as was mentioned there's a lot of un clarity here a big piece of un clarity is you know what have the kurds agreed to also the status of co bonnie which vice president pence said this is the symbolic heart of the kurdish territory which they defended against isis and 2015. you know vice president pence that this will be protected for mr chavez louve from turkey said that is not necessarily guaranteed i want to get on the curve of kurds again let's take a listen what the vice president said about them today. with regard to the white

p.g. syrian defense forces we have been in contact today and we receive repeated assurances from the they'll be blue now. it greatly welcomed the opportunity for she's far to make a safe and orderly withdrawal from those areas in the safe zone where they still have a presence i mean. it's hard to believe that the kurds are voluntarily going to pull back and give up the autonomy that they've been enjoying and say ok we agree we'll give up everything in exchange for not being slaughtered it is that the thinking i mean how do you explain this is this is a it's a fog of ceasefire essentially we don't know and they don't know necessarily what was agreed to what is clear is that if they do withdraw 32 kilometers behind the border with turkey at least the forces you're leaving a massive civilian population there that's going to be basically beholden to the

turks and creating that kind of reality on the ground where you have an occupied zone a defacto annexation of this piece of territory is is quite alarming to the turkish susmit to the kurdish population in both turkey and in syria it sounds like there is. a great amount of spin in this announcement today are you surprised by how much spin there is here well i mean a lot of this the last 11 days have been extremely erratic and clearly this has been trying to build a diplomatic infrastructure beneath some whims of personal conversations that have taken place between president pro crump and president air to one and i think that that continues i mean basically what vice president pence and pump ale have tried to do is. say things for the president and for the united states in this case in what was essentially and maximalist victory for the good point i want to talk about what is happening in washington as a result of trucks decision to leave northern syria that was

a meeting yesterday at the white house between trump and democratic leaders in congress that meeting ended apparently the very hot and he did weigh in this is what was said after the meeting take a look. the safety of america the safety of the kurds are in the hands of one person president trump and the best way to pressure him is a strong bipartisan resolution such as passed the house to undo the damage he has done but at least on the part of the president was a melt down sad to say. i mean people have chuckled when they heard that but are we witnessing here a total breakdown between 2 branches of government and to that impeachment well i mean that's that's where the real the real breakdown in decorum and cooperation is coming through i mean at the same time this is occurring you have the announcement that acting chief of staff make will be any has basically acknowledged that the trumpet ministration was seeking

a quid pro quo for military aid to ukraine in its change for investigations of the $26000.00 election in the conspiracy theory around servers being held in ukraine territory there are hearings every day closed door hearings including said they with gordon sunland the us ambassador to the e.u. so clearly we're seeing a 2 track. breakdown essentially diplomatic breakdown in the united states and it's taking place in congress too we have to ask ourselves what are the the commonalities here we have an erratic decision making process where norms are going off the rails and the decorum the process is going off the rails and of course it would be remiss to not acknowledge that russia's involved in both of these cases where you have you really have to question the motives of the everything that is happening at least in the last 2 weeks these are things that putin would want to see happen right exactly i mean 1st of all you have a breakdown in you know the authenticity of the u.s.

support for ukraine because it looks like it's a quid pro quo 2nd you have and that causes all sorts of uncertainty within ukraine are is the united states supporting their demise. radek aspirations and then in syria you have a total change in on the ground realities where russia is making advances and as the us is pulling back its 1000 troops to its main bases we saw yesterday russians are advancing onto bases small bases but still formerly held u.s. bases. we're here in europe the european allies of the united states are watching this how how do you how do you explain this to policymakers here in europe what the united states is doing in terms of its foreign policy i mean that is going to be the long term impact of this and i think that's why i congress is panicking on both sides of the aisle is because this is really taking a hit to our credibility the united states credibility as a reliable ally if we're willing if the united states is willing to turn on an ally that has supported its national security interest for the past 5 years in northern

syria the kurds what are they going to do with the nato what are they going to do in a place like kosovo where the united states has a major troop presence that has to maintaining its stability it's a big question and you know that the variables are more variables the constants right now in the equation right yeah exactly i mean you know we have been saying for the past 3 years that the only constant here is is chaos but now we're seeing the effects that that can have in the lasting damage it can do and that to the kurds or frankly it's a really tragic day for our alliance with the kurds ties in with the aspen institute in germany times and thank you and we apologize to you for losing the signal there to washington. are the days almost done but the conversation continues online to find us on twitter either d.w. news or you can follow me a brit go off t.v. don't forget use the hash tag for the day and remember whatever happens between now and then tomorrow is another day we'll see you then everybody.

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