a break sit deal again $600.00 pages outlining how the u.k. will depart the european union but most of it we've read before in fact one of the only difference is this time around is the name of the british leader pushing the deal tonight back to the future with brics it this coming saturday prime minister boris johnson will ask the u.k. parliament to approve this new plan if recent history is any guide lawmakers will decide to make this deal the moment when breaks it begins or the moment when breaks it begins its end yet again i'm bored golf in berlin this is the day. i have i have to sit up because. of the sense the book works now is the money

for us to get done when there is the real there is a deal we don't know until these good deals with just one alex. go to get through it. and i hope very much not speaking of the next few britons to get the n.p.c. in the westminster do not come together to get bricks to come my way and my hope for the next based is that the wheel holds in all theirs and i think it's just a fix it will be an evolving cycle but some time yes. also coming up seriously syria the us president sent a letter to the turkish president which read don't be a fool but every part of the ended up in the trash democrats met with the u.s. president to talk about syria that meeting ended in a meltdown i pray for the president all the time nextel and i pay for the safety

multiples and he can have the patients home little sis was a very serious. the whole city leadership or city called 3rd rate in the city received a grade there is no way for a. wallet. to our viewers on p.b.s. in the united states and all around the world welcome we begin the day with yet another break deal and yet another possibility that it will be shut down by the u.k. parliament after 3 days of nonstop negotiations leaders of the european union and the u.k. today announced that they have struck a deal a plan for the u.k. to depart the e.u. in an orderly fashion beginning october 31st on both sides there is consensus that a no deal breaks it would be a lose lose situation or now it's up to u.k. prime minister boris johnson to convince parliament that this deal is a win win or at least a win for the u.k. on saturday lawmakers will convene to debate and vote for the 4th time on whether

to approve or reject the brics it withdrawal agreement former prime minister to resume a tried tried and tried again eventually resign with brights it unfinished but there are 2 differences this time around this latest breaks it does not include the controversial irish border backstop and the leader declaring this deal is the only way forward this time it's boris johnson i want to stress that this is a great deal fool country for the u.k. i also believe it's a very good deal for our friends in the us and we can also. build now after 3 the hoth years we can build on our relations with friends and partners in the e.u. i'm very confident that when my colleagues in parliament study this agreement they will want to treat what i can say today is that our objectives as are the and i'm

just europe the national citizens' rights separate. to touch those few citizens living in the u.k. and also u.k. citizens living in the european union we have a financial settlement there be no hard border between north and south the all ireland economy will continue to develop north side cooperation hasn't visits by the good friday agreement can resume and continue this distinguish is the present situation from the situation we found on saps in at the time that to resume was prime minister united kingdom at the time it was unclear what the future relationship would look like with that they would be a membership in the past single market or not now it's very clear that great party is going to be a 3rd country and we will speedily begin negotiating such a free trade a game and agreement with such a 3rd country close i feel so there is frankly speaking english. because in my heart. i will always be remain well they hope to do so if it is friends

this side story turn around they. are the roads be open thank you the door will always be open and we have complete coverage tonight of what has been a momentous day in this long history of trying to make breaks it happen from brussels where e.u. leaders are meeting is g.w. next hoffman and in one tonight didn't we use your good mass to both of you good evening max let me start with you know we have we've come together before many times just like what we're doing tonight 3 times before the break to deal with europe wanted was then shot down by the u.k. parliament do you sense that this deal will be the one. how don't know if it's going to be the one you know it always takes some time to really make sure if the one is the one you really want to stick with in this case though there are some small differences to the last deal which is 1st of all as you

mentioned earlier it doesn't include the ugly word backstop any more just a reminder backs up was the insurance policy supposed to. hard border between northern ireland which is part of the u.k. and the republic of ireland is part of the e.u. i don't know how many times i've said this but it's not porton so i'm saying it say it again it does include sort of a backstop through the back door though it's not called that way anymore so you could say that's one difference in the wording that boris johnson will be able to sell will also be able to sell the fact that officially northern ireland remains in the same customs territory as u.k. mainland that's also success although in fact it's going to be very closely associated to the e.u. northern ireland that is so in a customs partnership and then finally maybe you can talk about that a little more later the northern irish people will have their say whether they want to stick with this customs partnership with the e.u. or not every 4 or 8 years depending on the mode they choose so those are the main

differences not sure it'll be enough to push that through the house of commons yet but i like the buyback stopped part of it and begin what do you think the chances are for this present bragg's a plan when parliament convenes on saturday before you answer i want you to take a listen to what we heard today from people outside westminster take a listen. that says it's been coupled together just to satisfy as i say this again. and i don't think it's going to. be in any way acceptable if mrs knight deal with anything tweaks in 12 months it still was having it might be of any use to us and being anything at all about actually case was actually remaining well i think we should keep things simple like the original voting documents. come in as the referendum. on the settlement

document was leave or remain missing about deals you know we don't want to lose groupie deals we just won out ok i think it's elice be reaches don't since. power and not going to get it through in time we have no there is no option they have to get an extension and then the deal could be amyloids troll please just like mase deal it will be for a. it's a bigger what do you say saturday yes or no to this deal. that's a good question brant i don't really know and i don't think many people here in london know it's going to be very very tight that's for sure we know that the northern irish spot know boris johnson the d u v the northern irish party things it's not a deal with backing they are very important the northern irish part this they basically prop up rise johnson's government and many conservative m.p.'s have so far listened to what these northern irish m.p.'s had to say say the fact that they

are not backing it is not good news for boris johnson when it comes to the support of his own parliament area and then we have laid out labor that the neighbor opposition party is very rare event that in the future that the u.k. could be a very serious competitor like angela merkel has alluded to and the sound bite that you played could be maybe undermining the u.k. when it comes to regulation when it comes to work because rights could be really lowering the standard it's a race to the bottom is what what they fear bucks also that just might be something to m.p.'s that also think like the people we've had to the outside westminster the say just you know just get it done and and move on and say it's really going to be very very tight on saturday this fate and next i want to pick up again on the irish border on the solution i don't want to go just pacific's about this new solution

but in a needless to say there is an alternative to that irish bank stop what are you hearing from your sources is this new plan is it one that will really work or is it more i guess more window dressing just to get the whole process out of the state of limbo. if you look at the brags that agreement. to get a 63 pages something like that i don't have the exact number and we've been working through it today and it's not window dressing i mean. this is some serious stuff and there are not many places in the world where a document like that can be produced it's an incredible achievement really object if you speaking didn't hammer something like that in all you need absolute experts to do it and the reason why. you know why they are working so thornley on this or have been working and have all these details and there is because the e.u. was very very worried that those ideas put forward by the u.k.

government might not be and the word was workable it needs to work and that's why this is so detailed in the end the officials here in brussels were convinced that this could work but make no mistake it's complicated super complicated i mean just imagine the customs official that has to make sense of all this of course they're not going to read that document they're going to get a simplified version or some simple instructions but to translate all this into simple instructions for you consummate official. at the port in mainland u.k. is going to be a real challenge and of course the single market the border to the single market the customs border to the e.u. there is going to be less reliable than in other places of the european union some things will slip through it's just just the way it is they will have to be more flexible there but that's the price that you use willing to pay and that's in parliament says no one saturday what happens then to me over talking about another bridge that extension and is the european union willing to delay again. that is the

question that we've been asking here we had a whole press conference with the german chancellor i'm going to back to where all the different journalists basically asked that question and try to to nail and to nail it down to get an answer because juncture juncker the president of the u. commission coming in said no extension we assumed as was supposed to be helpful for boris johnson because i'm told junker will have no say in this it's that you leaders will have to decide that if force onsen or the u.k. government someone of the u.k. government comes on saturday after having lost their vote in the house of car. and it asked for an extension you know what i'm going to sidestep that is typical she said we're not there yet we'll deal with that when we get there. i'll let you have the west question here how close do you think we are to a general election in the u.k. . boris johnson wants nothing more than a general election and with this deal that he has just had with the european union he would be going in it on the high

a thing because he will have gotten this deal against the all of the e.u. had said we are not going to open the withdrawal agreement we have you know we have close this chapter of up to half for him you know this is a that's that's already that's already a victory for him also it was said that the backstop is non-negotiable box and the backstop in the half in the ultimate form and in the last from at least it went soon he has got you know quite some it's events and he will go i thing into this election law and we've already seen him making moves easy had the queen's speech where he was laying out his future government proposals on health on tough on crime so we really know that he wants to have a general election if his deal doesn't go through on saturday well then his chances of a general election happening very soon are actually quite high indeed all right so the story continues spirited last in london next often in brussels to both of you

thank you. it's a great day for the united states it's a great day for turkey great day for the kurds it's really a great day for civilization a great day for civilization. and quite a declaration to make even for us president double drop but it reveals just how relieved apparently used today u.s. vice president mike pence and else of the u.s. and turkey have agreed to a cease fire in. within syria the united states is calling the 5 day stop in military operations a cease fire turkey is calling it a suspension which means the fighting could continue now in exchange for this temporary stop in fighting turkey will see no economic sanctions slapped on it by the u.s. the 5 day ceasefire is supposed to allow kurdish forces in northern syria time to withdraw but there was no one from the kurds at the meeting between the u.s.

vice president and the turkish president and there were no kurds present today when pence made that announcement turkish side will pause operation piece spring. in order to allow for the withdrawal of white p.g. forces from the safe zone. for 120 hours on military operations under operation spring the pause. in operation spring will be halted entirely on completion of the withdrawal are we got complete coverage of this tonight i'm joined here the big table by tyson barker he is with the aspen institute germany and in the u.s. couple of the night i'm joined by the roar of the washington post to both of you welcome i want to start with you you wrote this week that trump is engaged in a lose lose game in syria yet we just heard the president declaring this cease fire a great day for civilization what does he know that you don't.

plenty of things i'm sure. well what's happened is rather surreal in the space of less than 3 weeks trump has 1st of all greenlit this turkish operation into northeastern syria then waved around symbolic sanctions in response to a backlash here in washington and then gave away the threat of sanctions today in this deal that effectively gives the turks everything they wanted. so it's a really really quite remarkable iteration of the art of the deal that we're seeing take place this week between on prone washington and you know we're just getting the report now that the kurds have accepted this ceasefire how do you explain that which i mean we were not expecting them to come because they were not part of the negotiations it's us it's not right well it's also not fully clear to what extent they've they've accepted

a kind of cease fire on the zones of conflict it is not clear if they've accepted. a group sort of a greater follow or draw from the zone that turkey now expects the kurds to withdraw from part of this deal was basically the u.s. . said they would guarantee a kurdish would drawl from a belt of territory along the syrian craters border syrian turkish border sort of deep into deep in some 2030 miles deep into syria it's not really clear if that's the acronym for the kurdish led syrian democratic forces that the u.s. has been backing for the past half decade it's not clear if they're going to be fully were drawing across the border and it's also not clear how easily turkey can implement the understanding's of this deal. when both the assad regime. so we've lost that signal we're trying to reestablish that in the meantime let me ask you about the promise of new economic sanctions i mean will turkey i mean what

is the u.s. congress in agreement we're going to have to see i mean just looking at the tweets before before it came in and there's been different messaging from lindsey graham and chris van hollen the 2 co-sponsors of the sanctions passing through the senate lindsey graham has basically said this is this is a good deal with this you we do recognize that turkey has legitimate national interests in northern syria and chris van hollen the democrats' democratic sponsor of these sanctions has said these sanctions we will continue to push them forward including with lindsey graham lindsey graham has not said the same thing the rhetoric coming out of the white house particularly from president trump himself has been an incredibly obsequious i mean it's really him for size that they will not be putting on what was mentioned were symbolic sanctions essentially on some key figures and what i would expect to happen is the republican party in congress to rally around the president to give at least this breathing room room to this pause in inaction in operations in northern syria that would be my expectation but

as was mentioned there's a lot of un clarity here a big piece of a clarity is you know what have the kurds agreed to also the status of koba which vice president pence said this is the symbolic heart of the kurdish territory which they defended against isis in 2015. you know vice president pence that this will be protected for minister chebucto louve from turkey said that is not necessarily guaranteed i want to pick up on the current kurds again which ticket was and what the vice president said about them today. with regard to the white p.g. syria defense forces we have been in contact today and we received repeated assurances from now the gobi bill and now. it greatly welcomed the opportunity for she's far to make a safe and orderly withdrawal from those areas in the safe zone we're they still

have a presence i mean it's actually it's hard to believe that the kurds are voluntarily going to pull back and give up the autonomy they've been enjoying and say ok we agree we'll give up everything in exchange for not being slaughtered is that the thinking i mean how do you explain this is this is a it's a fog of ceasefire essentially we don't know and they don't know necessarily what was agreed to what is clear is that if they do withdraw 32 kilometers behind the border with turkey at least the forces you're leaving a massive civilian population there that's going to be basically beholden to the turks and creating that kind of reality on the ground where you have an occupied zone a de facto annexation of this piece of territory is is quite alarming to the turkish me to the kurdish population in both turkey and in syria itself like there is. a great amount of spin in this announcement today are you surprised by how much spin

there is here well i mean a lot of this the last 11 days have been extremely erratic and clearly this has been trying to build a diplomatic infrastructure beneath some whims of personal conversations that have taken place between president pro trump and president air to one and i think that that continues i mean basically what vice president pence and pump ale have tried to do is. save face for the president and for the united states in this case in what was essentially and maximalist victory for the good point i want to talk about what is happening in washington as a result of trucks decision to leave northern syria that was a meeting yesterday at the white house between trump and democratic leaders in congress that meeting ended apparently the very hot and he did weigh in this is what was said after the meeting take a look. the safety of america the safety of the kurds are in the hands of one person president trump and the best way to pressure him is a strong bipartisan resolution such as passed the house to undo the damage he has

done but at least on the part of the president was a melt down sad to say. i mean people have chuckled when they heard that but are we witnessing here a total breakdown between 2 branches of government and to that impeachment well i mean that's that's where the real the real breakdown in decorum and cooperation is coming through i mean at the same time this is occurring you have the announcement that acting chief of staff mick will be any has basically acknowledged that the trumpet ministration was seeking a quid pro quo for military aid to ukraine in exchange for investigations of the $26000.00 election in the conspiracy theory around servers being held in ukraine territory there are hearings every day closed door hearings including sedate with gordon somnolent the us ambassador to the e.u. so clearly we're seeing a 2 track. breakdown essentially diplomatic breakdown in the united states and it's

taking place in congress too we have to ask ourselves what are the the commonalities here we have an erratic decision making process where norms are going off the rails and the decorum the process is going off the rails and of course it would be remiss to not acknowledge that russia's involved in both of these cases where you have you really have to question the motives of the everything that is happening at least in the last 2 weeks these are things that putin would want to see happen right exactly i mean 1st of all you have a breakdown in you know the authenticity of the u.s. support for ukraine because it looks like it's a quid pro quo 2nd you have and that causes all sorts of uncertainty within ukraine are is the united states supporting their demise. radek aspirations and then in syria you have a total change in on the ground realities where russia is making advances and as the us is pulling back its 1000 troops to its main bases we saw yesterday russians

are advancing onto bases small bases but still formerly held u.s. bases we're here in europe the european allies of the united states are watching this how how do you how do you explain this to policymakers here in europe what the united states is doing in terms of its foreign policy i mean that it's going to be the long term impact of this and i think that that's why i congress is panicking on both sides of the aisle is because this is really taking hit to our credibility the united states credibility as a reliable ally if we're willing if the united states is willing to turn on an ally that has supported its national security interest for the past 5 years in northern syria the kurds what are they going to do with the nato what are they going to do in a place like kosovo where the united states has a major troop presence maintaining its stability it's a big question and you know the variables are more variables the constants right now in the equation right yeah exactly i mean you know we have been saying for the

past 3 years that the only constant here is chaos but now we're seeing the effects that that can have in the lasting damage it can do and the kurds are frankly it's a really tragic day for our alliance with the kurds and with the institute in germany times and thank you and we apologize to you for losing the signal there to washington. our the day is almost done but the conversation continues online to find us on twitter either the news or you can follow me at broadcast t.v. don't forget use the hash tag in the day and remember whatever happens between now and then tomorrow is another day we'll see you then everybody.

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