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outlining how the u.k. will depart the european union but most of it we've read before in fact one of the only difference is this time around is the name of the british leader pushing the deal tonight back to the future with bracks it this coming saturday prime minister boris johnson will ask the u.k. parliament to approve this new plan if recent history is any guide lawmakers will decide to make this deal the moment when breaks it begins or the moment when breaks it begins its end yet again i'm bored golf in berlin this is the day. i have i have to say that i'm happy about this deal but i'm sad about the question now is the money we trust to get done when there is the will there is a deal we don't know until these goopy deals with just one alex. i'm not going to
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get it through. and i hope very much not speaking of that to britain's to. the n.p.c. in the westminster do not come together to get bricks his tongue my and my call for the next day is that the wheel pulls in all. and i think it's just a phrase that will be an evolving sagesse of quite some time yes. also coming up seriously syria the u.s. president sent a letter to the turkish president which read don't be a fool but every part of the ended up in the trash democrats met with the u.s. president to talk about syria that meeting ended in a meltdown i pray for the president all the time that talent paid for safety multiple standing now we have to pay for his health for the since was a very serious commitment to the principle leadership or said he called. he said
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they were going to grade their a. better. way. to our viewers on p.b.s. in the united states and all around the world welcome we begin today with yet another briggs deal and yet another possibility that it will be shut down by the u.k. parliament after 3 days of nonstop negotiations leaders of the european union and the u.k. today announced that they have struck a deal a plan for the u.k. to depart the e.u. in an orderly fashion beginning october 31st on both sides there is consensus that a no deal breaks it would be a lose lose situation where now it's up to u.k. prime minister boris johnson to convince parliament that this deal is a win win or at least a win for the u.k. on saturday lawmakers will convene to debate and vote for the 4th time on whether to approve or reject the brics it withdrawal agreement former prime minister to resume a tried tried and tried again eventually resigned with breaks it unfinished but
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there are 2 differences this time around this latest breaks it does not include the controversial irish border backstop and the leader declaring this deal is the only way forward this time it's boris johnson i want to stress that this is a great deal fool our country for the u.k. believe it's a very good deal for friends in the us we can also. 2 build now after 3 and a half years we can build not on our relations with friends and partners in the e.u. i'm very confident that when my colleagues in parliament study this agreement they will want to have a troops what i can say today is that our objectives as are the ones i'm just europe at the national citizens' rights are protected it's those you citizens living in the. ok and also u.k.
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citizens living in the european union we have a financial settlement there be no hard border between north and size the all ireland economy will continue to develop north side cooperation as a visit by the good friday agreement can resume and continue this distinguish is the present situation from the situation we found ourselves in at the time that to resume was prime minister in fact condemned at the time it was unclear what the future relationship it looked like with that they would be a membership in the past single market or not now it's very clear that great party is going to be a 3rd country and we will speedily begin the case heading south to free trade we came and agreement with such a 3rd country plus i feel today is frankly speaking english. because in my heart. i will always be to remain there when they hope to do so our british friends decide storyteller and they. are the rule with be able to thank you
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the door will always be open and we have complete coverage tonight of what has been a momentous day in this long history of trying to make breaks it happen from brussels where e.u. leaders are meeting is g w next hoffman and in london tonight didn't we use your good mass to both of you good evening max let me start with you know we have we've come together before many times just like what we're doing tonight 3 times before the break to deal with europe wanted was then shot down by the u.k. parliament do you sense that this deal will be the one. how i don't know if it's going to be the one you know it always takes some time to really make sure if the one is the one you really want to stick with in this case though there are some small differences to the last deal which is 1st of all as you mentioned earlier it doesn't include the ugly word backstop anymore just revived or backs up was the insurance policy supposed to avoid a hard border between northern ireland which is part of the u.k. in. if i live in spite of the e.u.
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i don't know how many times i've said this but this isn't porton so i'm saying it i'm saying it again it does include sort of a backstop through the back door though it's just not called that way any more so you could say that's one difference in the wording that boris johnson will be able to sell will also be able to sell the fact that officially northern ireland remains in the same customs territory as u.k. mainland that's also success although in fact it's going to be very closely associated to the e.u. northern ireland that is on a quick customs partnership and then finally maybe you can talk about that a little more later the more than irish people will have their say whether they want to stick with this customs partnership with the e.u. or not every 4 or 8 years depending on the mode they choose so those are the main differences not sure it'll be enough to push that through the house of commons yet but i like the buyback stopped part of it and begin what do you think the chances are for this present bragg's
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a plan when parliament convenes on saturday before you answer i want you to take a listen to what we heard today from people outside westminster take a listen. he says it's been couple together just to satisfy as i say this again. and i don't think it's going to. be in any way acceptable if mrs knight deal with anything tweaks into it still was having it might be of any use to us and it might be the thing yeah well actually it's was. actually remaining well i think we should keep things simple like the original voting documents. coming as the referendum. on the settlement document was leave or remain missing about deals you know we don't want to lose groupie deals we just want out of. jail is be reaches don't since. i'm
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not going to get it through in something we have no there is no option they have to get an extension and then the deal can be analysed properly just like mase deal it will be for. the bigger what do you say saturday yes or no to this deal. that's a good question brant i don't really know and i don't think many people here in london know it's going to be very very tight that's for sure we know that the northern irish pop no boris johnson the d. of p. the northern irish party things it's not to deal with backing they are very important the northern irish they basically prop up rise johnson's government and many conservative m.p.'s have so far listened to what these northern irish m.p.'s had to say say the fact that they are not backing it is not good news for boris johnson when it comes to the support of his own parliamentarians then we have labor
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labor the neighbor opposition party is very rarely eat that in the future that the u.k. could be a very serious competitor like angela merkel has alluded to and the sound bite and you played could be maybe undermining the u.k. when it comes to regulation when it comes to work because rights could be really lowering the standards a race to the bottom is what they fear bought also that just might be something to n.p.'s that also think like the people we've had tended outside westminster say just you know just get it done and and move on see it's really going to be very very tight on saturday this fades and next i want to pick up again on the irish border on the solution i don't want to go just pacific's about this new solution but needless to say there is an alternative to that irish bank stop what are you hearing from your sources is this new plan is it one that will really work or is it
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more i guess more window dressing just to get the whole process out of the state of limbo. if you look at that brags that agreement i think it has 63 pages something like that i don't have the exact number and we've been working through it today and it's not window dressing i mean this is some serious stuff and there are not many places in the world where a document like that can be produced it's an incredible achievement really object if you speaking didn't hammer something like that and you need absolute experts to do it and the reason why. you know why they are working so thorley on this or have been working in they have all these details in there is because the e.u. was very very worried that those ideas put forward by the u.k. government might not be and the word was workable it needs to work and that's why this is so detailed in the end the officials here in brussels were convinced that
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this could work but make no mistake it's complicated super complicated i mean just imagine the customs official that has to make sense of all this of course they're not going to read that document they're going to get a simplified version or some simple instructions but to translate all this into simple instructions for you consummate official. in the port in mainland u.k. is going to be a real challenge and of course the single market the border to the single market the customs border to the e.u. there is going to be less reliable than in other places of the european union and some things will slip through it's just just the way it is they will have to be more flexible there but that's the price the e.u. is willing to pay and max of parliament says no on saturday what happens then i'm only talking about another broadside extension and is the european union willing to delay again. that is the question that we've been asking here we had a whole press conference with the german chancellor i'm going to back to where all the different journalists basically asked that question and try to to nail and to
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nail it down to get an answer because juncture juncker the president of the u. commission coming in said no extension we assumed as was supposed to be helpful. for boris johnson because altered you will have no say in this it's that you leaders will have to decide that if force johnson or the u.k. government someone of the u.k. government comes on saturday after having lost the vote in the house of commons and ask for an extension you know what i'm going to sidestep that is typical she said we're not there yet we'll deal with that when we get there. you have the last question here how close do you think we are to a general election in the u.k. . boris johnson wants nothing more than a general election and with this deal that he has just had with the european union he would be going in it on the high i think because he will have gotten this deal against the all of the you had said we are not going to open the withdrawal
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agreement we have you know we have close this chapter about half for him you know this is a that's that's already that's already a victory for him also it was said that the backstop is nonnegotiable bought and the backstop in the half of the in the ultimate form in the end a loss from at least it went to he has got you know quite some it's events and he will go i thing into this election law and we've already seen him making moves easy had a queen's speech where he was laying out his future government proposals on health on tough on crime so we really know that he wants to have a general election if his deal doesn't go through on saturday well then his chances of a general election happening very soon are actually quite high indeed all right so the story continues spirited mosques in london next often in brussels to both of you thank you. it's a great day for the united states it's
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a great day for turkey great day for the kurds it's really a great day for civilization a great day for civilization. that's quite a declaration. even for u.s. president double drop but it reveals just how relieved trump apparently is today u.s. vice president mike pence and elves that the u.s. and turkey have agreed to a cease fire in northern syria the united states is calling the 5 day stop in military operations a cease fire turkey is calling it a suspension which means the fighting could continue now in exchange for this temporary stop in fighting turkey will see no economic sanctions slapped on it by the u.s. the 5 day ceasefire is supposed to allow kurdish forces in northern syria time to withdraw but there was no one from the kurds at the meeting between the u.s. vice president and the turkish president and there were no kurds present today when pence made that announcement turkish side will pause operation
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peace spring. in order to allow for the withdrawal of white p.g. forces from the safe zone. for 120 hours on military operations under operation spring people was in operation the spring will be halted entirely on completion of the withdrawal are we going to be coverage of this tonight i'm joined here at the big table by tyson barker he is with the aspen institute germany and in the u.s. couple of delight i'm joined by the roar of the washington post to both of you welcome i want to start with you you wrote this week that trump is engaged in a lose lose game in syria yet we just heard the president declaring this cease fire a great day for civilization what does he know that you don't. plenty of things i'm sure. well what's happened is rather surreal in the space of
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less than 2 weeks trump has 1st of all green lifts this turkish operation into northeastern syria then waved around symbolic sanctions in response to a backlash here in washington and then gave away the threat of sanctions today in this deal that effectively gives the turks everything they wanted. so it's a really really quite remarkable iteration of the art of the deal that we're seeing take place this week between on pro in washington and you know we're just getting the report now that the kurds have accepted this ceasefire how do you explain that which i mean we were not expecting that to come because they were not part of the negotiations assess it's not right well it's also not fully clear to what extent they've they've accepted a kind of cease fire on the zones of conflict it is not clear if they've accepted. a group sort of a greater follow or draw from the zone that turkey now expects the kurds to
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withdraw from part of this deal was basically the u.s. . said they would guarantee a kurdish withdrawal from a belt of territory along the syrian critics border syrian turkish border sort of deep into deep in some 2030 miles deep into syria it's not really clear if the s.d.f. the that's the acronym for the kurdish led syrian democratic forces that the u.s. has been backing for the past half decade it's not clear if they're going to be fully were drawing across the border and it's also not clear how easily turkey can implement the understanding's of this deal and i'm one both the assad regime. so we've lost that signal we're trying to reestablish that in the meantime let me ask you about the promise of new economic sanctions i mean with turkey i mean what is the u.s. congress in agreement we're going to have to see i mean just looking at the tweets before before it came in and there's been different messaging from lindsey graham
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and chris van hollen the 2 co-sponsors of the sanctions passing through the senate lindsey graham has basically said this is this is a good deal with this you we do recognize that turkey has legitimate national interests in northern syria and chris van hollen the democrats' democratic sponsor of these sanctions has said these sanctions we will continue to push them forward including with lindsey graham lindsey graham has not said the same thing the rhetoric coming out of the white house particularly from president trump himself has been an incredibly obsequious i mean it's really in for size that they will not be putting on what was mentioned were symbolic sanctions essentially on some key figures and what i would expect to happen is the republican party in congress to rally around the president to give at least this breathing room room to this pause in an action in operations in northern syria that would be my expect taken but as was mentioned there's a lot of fun clarity here a big piece of and clarity is you know what have the kurds agreed to and also the
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status of koba which vice president pence said this is the symbolic heart of the kurdish territory which they defended against isis and 2015. you know vice president pence that this will be protected for mr chavez louve from turkey said that is not necessarily guaranteed i want to get on the curb. which ticket was and what the vice president said about them today. with regard to the white p.g. syria defense forces we have been in contact today and we received repeated assurances from the gobi bill now. that it greatly welcomed the opportunity for a cease fire to make a safe and orderly withdrawal from those areas in the safe zone were they still have a presence i mean it's actually it's hard to believe that the kurds are voluntarily
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going to pull back and give up the autonomy that they've been enjoying and say ok we agree we'll give up everything in exchange for not being sold it is that the thinking i mean how do you explain this is this is a it's a fog of ceasefire essentially we don't know and they don't know necessarily what was agreed to what is clear is that if they do withdraw 32 kilometers behind the border with turkey at least the forces you're leaving a massive civilian population there that's going to be basically beholden to the turks and creating that kind of reality on the ground where you have an occupied zone a de facto annexation of this piece of territory is is quite alarming to the turkish me to the kurdish population in both turkey and in syria itself like there is. a great amount of spin in this announcement today are you surprised by how much spin there is here well i mean a lot of this the last 11 days have been extremely erratic and clearly this has been trying to build a diplomatic infrastructure beneath some whims of personal conversations that have
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taken place between president trump and president air to one and i think that that continues i mean basically what vice president pence and pump ale have tried to do is. say things for the president and for the united states in this case in what was essentially and maximalist victory for the good point i want to talk about what is happening in washington as a result of trucks decision to leave northern syria that was a meeting yesterday at the white house between trump and democratic leaders in congress that meeting ended apparently the very hot and he did weigh in this is what was said after the meeting take a look. the safety of america the safety of the kurds are in the hands of one person president trump and the best way to pressure him is a strong bipartisan resolution such as passed the house to undo the damage he has done. lately on the part of the president was a melt down sad to say. i mean people have chuckled when they've heard that
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but are we witnessing here a total breakdown between 2 branches of government and to that impeachment well i mean that's that's where the real the real breakdown in decorum and cooperation is coming through i mean at the same time this is occurring you have the announcement that acting chief of staff mick mulvaney has basically acknowledged that the trumpet ministration was seeking a quid pro quo for military aid to ukraine in exchange for investigations of the $26000.00 election in the conspiracy theory around servers being held in ukraine territory there are hearings every day closed door hearings including said they with gordon somnolent the us ambassador to the e.u. so clearly we're seeing a 2 track. breakdown essentially diplomatic breakdown in the united states and it's taking place in congress too we have to ask ourselves what are the the commonalities here we have an erratic decision making process where norms are going
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off the rails and the decorum the process is going off the rails and of course it would be remiss to not acknowledge that russia's involved in both of these cases where you have you really have to question the motives of the everything that is happening at least in the last 2 weeks these are things that putin would want to see happen right exactly i mean 1st of all you have a breakdown in you know the authenticity of the u.s. support for ukraine because it looks like it's a quid pro quo 2nd you have and that causes all sorts of uncertainty within ukraine are is the united states supporting their demise. radek aspirations and then in syria you have a total change in on the ground realities where russia is making advances and as the us is pulling back its 1000 troops to its main bases we saw yesterday russians are advancing onto bases small bases but still formerly held u.s. bases we're here in europe the european allies of the united states are watching
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this how how do you how do you explain this to policymakers here in europe what the united states is doing in terms of its foreign policy i mean that is going to be the long term impact of this and i think that that's why i congress is panicking on both sides of the aisle is because this is really taking hit to our credibility the united states credibility as a reliable ally if we're willing if the united states is willing to turn on an ally that has supported its national security interest for the past 5 years in northern syria the kurds what are they going to do with the nato what are they going to do in a place like kosovo where the united states has a major troop presence maintaining its stability it's a big question and the you know the variables are more variables the constants right now in the equation right yeah exactly i mean you know we have been saying for the past 3 years that the only constant here is chaos but now we're seeing the effects that that can have in the lasting damage it can do and the kurds are
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frankly it's a really tragic day for our alliance with the kurds with the institute in germany times and thank you and we apologize to you for losing the signal there to washington. our the day is almost done but the conversation continues online to find us on twitter either the news or you can follow me at brett goth t.v. don't forget use the hash tag the day and remember whatever happens between now and then tomorrow is another day we'll see that everybody.
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