no i want to reach all those women back home for bones by the juneteenth and social norms and inform them of old dead basic rights my name is the about of people home and i work at eton. still the often this jerk is offensive in northern syria plunging nato into crisis does this call for more than diplomacy from germany from the e.u. . we are talking to germany's defense minister and i could. happen by our let's start with the big questions syria or minister what will you say to your nato colleagues when you meet with them later this week. then czar.

i will tell them that the situation in northern syria directly concerns the security interests of europe and the security interests of germany wouldn't this is . the truth this is a situation where the fight against isis terrorism must be continued resolutely continued consequently we are currently experiencing a humanitarian disaster with hundreds of thousands of people fleeing injured or dead. in europe especially the europeans in nato are now being called upon to propose how the situation in northern syria can be shaped and has survived in the long term in such a way that it suits the region but also that we need a good solution regarding our relationship with our nato partners turkey to in school not to partner to. the good to loose and good that's what and what proposal of entering it will germany make my. internet and my recommendation is that

we establish an internationally controlled security zone in cooperation with turkey and russia. this interior and would seek to resume the fight against terror and against isis which is currently come to a standstill movement to talk some will even though it would also ensure that we stabilize the region so that rebuilding civilian life is once again possible. and so that those who have fled can also return from. and harold. looked and. couldn't. we had to see to it that on the one hand turkey does not remain in northern syria. for the i.c.c. the invasion as a violation of international law so the current situation must not be extended the remand on the other hand that the territory of syria remains intact as stated in the resolution passed by the united nations. and that the constitutional process

currently getting underway is continued with officers minus in my view this requires a strong european initiative with this one we should discuss bilaterally with turkey and russia and germany should use its position in the united nations security council to gain widespread international support and it's not going to. get there we should decide whether to appoint a special envoy and i believe that would be a strong political and diplomatic response from europe hinson nato political and diplomatic to shun toward. in the not the if you buy back of beyond diplomacy would we see german troops on the ground or is what you seek a u.n. mandate unlikely as the series with russia that time it got out of a big awful stand. first of all the security zone would have to be under international control. where the fight against isis is concerned the military

capabilities would play a role. in my view it is essential that we include turkey in the discussions because turkey undeniably has its own security interests. but russia has to be included to. russia is one of the most important players in syria whether you like that or not that is a fact that we have to deal with to start. i believe this. these discussions are absolutely vice or whatever believe via the united nations but also through bilateral talks who would win this in the turn it have would be for europeans and nato to simply look on talks between turkey and russia continues its with and to potentially risk turkey becoming permanently entrenched in northern syria because. of this is something that we cannot allow within nato. that's why i believe that we

must draw upon is everything at our disposal to achieve a different result here. and then they are concrete so how far would germany go to implement this are you banking on the us like germany and europe have always gotten to the o.p.'s offer for a moment. and that's not the key to controlling this would be international cooperation meaning we would need an internationally viable foundational ideally with the un mandate in this $1.00 defined in the 2 on. the flag the question of how germany handles this politically and more than anything what that means for our armed forces is a question that must be decided by the bundestag as has been the case in previous mandate. the operation in iraq against isis there we're conducting aerial surveillance and training missions and. that is all according to

decisions made by the german parliament to be a dog. until now the german armed forces have always provided the resources demanded of them by the blenders targetable who was the clear for a long time and what are these resources specifically. if we make it clear that we are already engaged in the fight against isis but particularly in iraq then we have 2 scales one of which is the. ability to train which we are currently implementing in the region particularly in cooperation with the peshmerga with impish macca in the land our ability to carry out aerial surveillance. we are currently seeing that isis has been pushed back but not beaten. its forces are retreating underground and the air surveillance images of syria to nato reconnaissance aircraft and our analysts help to locate terrorist hiding places.

not always finish to marken but above all it is also our civilian military and coordinated efforts. in iraq we are very much involved in reconstruction in the air bill region through our development agencies. but also in establishing how to train local police forces those women if you look at the situation in northern syria we will need a huge amount of international support for reconstruction to enable people to return to this region. i believe those are the qualities germany could contribute you know your proposal would be a real paradigm shift how sure can you be of the support of the chancellor and of your own party. but this is 1st of all a proposal that i am making as party leader and as defense minister. and also

political man i know it's a proposal that is supported by many defense and foreign policy experts in my party before going public with this recommendation i informed the chancellor spitzer that this will definitely be discussed within the government but we can't simply talk about europe needing to be more than a bystander we must come up with our own proposals to catalyze discussions and. that's interesting whatever the question of how you can get a coalition partner the social. crowds to other suit when they are clearly opposing natures 2 percent target with him this is a conflict within the coalition conflict of the willing to form. first of all today the government spokesman asserted that the foreign office is assessment applies to the entire german government dispute this means that for us as the german government the turkish deployment in northern syria contravenes international law. is. the 2nd point concerns the

question of how we can stabilize the region that borders on the territory of a nature partner. and that affects the massive security interests of europe and germany. who would in my opinion there is also the question of how we want to shape further cooperation within the alliance. peculiarly regarding the issue of turkey as a nato partners and leave it to. turkey as an important nato partner despite all the criticisms that can be made to. this question of how to act unitedly within the alliance is one that is on the political agenda. of the put it into the sooner we find a common solution a common initiative for syria. so we can conduct with its base amongst our partners within nato. to depart our mission in part in the hope and not

before before the tail between the u.s. and turkey you have quite clearly demanded consequences if turkey occupied an area and northern syria what are the consequences that you ultimately demand or does that depend on this cooperation that has a pink one a corporate heads who want. to tie this it into a currently the situation is that turkish forces have crossed the border would you do now the debate is specifically about how things will. valid in the area because i have always made it quite clear that i consider this advance to be contrary to international law. but i am of the firm opinion that we must see the legitimate security interests of other countries because to consider. one when the fist of my conviction is that these interests must be implemented by political and diplomatic means. i spect. or we have

seen russian interventions in crimea ukraine in eastern ukraine. we are now seeing it in the case of turkey if this spread it will violate the fundamental principles of post-war order in europe. and that is why we must preserve this principle and that is why it's so important that we find a solution there. that's what this initiative is about to help ensure that we prevent turkey from permanently taking root in northern syria and that's turkey withdraws as quickly as possible so look see it was good in my view turkey will only withdraw if it has a guarantee for its own security interests and they can best be ensured internationally. you're also c.d.u. party leader and you've had to put up with a lot of criticism in the last few weeks and months. how much does it annoy you that the convention of you having 1st stab at becoming chancellor has been broken with by the consequent hard i've gotta walk one quarter this is.

not an issue for me i've always said that i was elected as party leader so i see it as my job to lead from the front. i've made proposals also with regard to the upcoming end of the normal period of office at the moment my fellow party members and i are concentrating on renewing the party profile with new key players and new faces for the hope. and reorganizing the party so that we are able to forge a successful career. pain at the next parliamentary elections and emerge as strong as policy that is the be all and end all for a successful transition to consensual music has how confident are you right now that this legislative period will last until 2021 because in the once again i can say that the c.d.u. is taking this responsibility very seriously and that we also want to take responsibility for this legislative period the stat means until 2021 months we

can see how volatile the international situation is we see that there are challenges in the economic sector so there really is a lot to do voters expect us to answer their justified questions and not to spend the next few months neither the s.p.d. nor the c.d.u. only focusing on ourselves. a minister thank you for this interview but you're welcome. w.c. talk show. strong opinions clear positions from international perspective. every week we get to the point on our current topic. truth will come in. to the point. of america. coming. from the generosity of the famous naturalist and

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