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stuff the often this turkey is offensive in northern syria plunging nato into crisis zone does this call for more than diplomacy from germany from the e.u. martin we are talking to germany's defense minister and i could come. on let's start with the big questions syria minister what will you say to your nato colleagues when you meet with them later this week with and bust their heads and been then czar. to its own inspiron that i will tell them that the situation in northern syria directly concerns the security interests of europe and the security interests of germany wouldn't buy this if its interests and that the truth this is a situation where the fight against isis terrorism must be continued resolutely continued consequent we're currently experiencing a humanitarian disaster with hundreds of thousands of people fleeing injured or

dead. or. europe especially the europeans in nato are now being called upon to propose how the situation in northern syria can be shaped and pacified in the long term in some. the way that it suits the region but also that we need a good solution regarding our relationship with our nato partners turkey to in school not to part of a. good president thought proposal that any at all germany make. in the internet and my recommendation is that we establish an internationally controlled security zone in cooperation with turkey and russia. this ensure it would seek to resume the fight against terror and against isis which is currently come to a standstill meant to talk some will even though it would also ensure that we

stabilize the region so that rebuilding civilian life is once again possible. and so that those who have fled can also return voluntarily given the of their fluked and. couldn't. we have to see to it that on the one hand turkey does not remain in northern syria nor to him by the i.c.c. the invasion as a violation of international law so the current situation must not be extended the remand on the other hand that the territory of syria remains intact as stated in the resolution passed by the united nations. and that the constitutional process currently getting underway is continued with officers minus in my view this requires a strong european initiative with this one we should discuss bilaterally with turkey and russia and germany should use its position in the united nations security council to gain widespread international support and it's not going to.

get there we should decide whether to appoint a special envoy and i believe that would be a strong political and diplomatic response from european so nato political diplomatic to shun toward. in the not the. if you buy would that go beyond diplomacy would we see german troops on the ground or is what you seek a u.n. mandate unlikely as the series with russia. time it got out of a bigger force and. first of all the security zone would have to be under international control. where the fight against isis is concerned the military capabilities would play a role. in my view it is essential that we include turkey in the discussions because turkey undeniably has its own security interests. but russia has to be included to russia is one of the most important players in

syria whether you like that or not that is a fact that we have to deal with to start. i believe that these lists questions are absolutely vital for believed by the united nations but also through bilateral talks in this. turn it have would be for europeans and nato to simply look on as talks between turkey and russia continues its mission to to and to potentially risk turkey becoming permanently entrenched in northern syria because. of this is something that we cannot allow within nato. that's why i believe that we must draw upon everything at our disposal to achieve a different result here. and then the people are concretely so how far would germany go to implement this are you banking on the us like germany and europe have always done thoughts on the o.p.'s often for a moment. in that's not the key to controlling this would be international

cooperation meaning we would need an internationally viable foundation as well and ideally with the un mandate within this $1.00 defined in the 2 on. the question of how germany. politically and more than anything what that means for our armed forces is a question that must be decided by the bluntest time as has been the case in previous mandate. the fight of our business take the operation in iraq against isis there we're conducting aerial surveillance and training missions. that is all according to decisions made by the german parliament in iraq. until now the german armed forces have always provided the resources demanded of them by the blandest hospitals who wish to. put us into and what are these resources specifically. if we make it clear that we are already engaged in the fight against isis but

particularly in iraq. then we have 2 skills one of which is the ability to train which we are currently implementing in the region particularly in cooperation with the peshmerga with impish macca and our ability to carry out aerial surveillance. we're currently seeing that isis has been pushed back but not beaten with its forces are retreating underground and the air surveillance images of syria to nato reconnaissance aircraft and our analysts help to locate terrorist hiding places. not always finish to martin but above all it is also our civilian military and coordinated efforts. in iraq we are very much involved in reconstruction in the air bill region through our development agencies. but also in establishing how

to train local police forces those women if you look at the situation in northern syria we will need a huge amount of international support for reconstruction to enable people to return to this region. i believe those are the qualities germany could contribute your time your proposal would be a real paradigm shift how sure can you be of the support of the chancellor and of your own party. but this is 1st of all a proposal that i am making as party leader and as defense minister. and also political man i know it's a proposal that is supported by many defense and foreign policy experts in my party before going public with this recommendation i informed the chancellor the this will definitely be discussed within the government but we can't simply talk about europe needing to be more than a bystander we must come up with our own proposals to catalyze discussions and.

that's interesting. what if the question of how you can get a coalition partner the social democrats to follow suit when they are clearly opposing nato's 2 percent target with him this is a conflict within the coalition conflict that's opening for. some else not the 1st of all today the government spokesman asserted that the foreign office is assessment applies to the entire german government dispute this means that for us as the german government the turkish deployment in northern syria contravenes international law. the fog of this 2nd point concerns the question of how we can stabilize the region that borders on the territory of a nature partner. and that effects the massive security interests of europe and germany. who would in my opinion there is also the question

of how we want to shape further cooperation within the alliance. peculiarly regarding the issue of turkey as a nato partners and leave it into. turkey as an important nato partner despite all the criticisms that can be made to. this question of how to act unitedly within the alliance is one that is on the political agenda. of the put it into the sooner we find a common solution and a common initiative for syria. so we can conduct its base amongst top cognise within nato. to depart our mission in part in the happen not of who before us before the tail between the u.s. and turkey but you have quite clearly demanded consequences if turkey occupied an area in northern syria what are the consequences that you ultimately demand or does that depend on this cooperation. to tie this

into a currently the situation is that turkish forces have crossed the border. would you do now the debate is specifically about how things will develop in the area because i have always made it quite clear that i consider this advance to be contrary to international law. but i am of the firm opinion that we must see the legitimate security interests of other countries because to consider. one when the fist of my conviction is that these interests must be implemented by political and diplomatic means. i suspect. we have seen russian interventions in crimea ukraine in eastern ukraine in the us we're now seeing it in the case of turkey if this spread it will violate the fundamental principles of post war in europe. and that is why we must preserve this principle and that is why it's so important that we find a solution there. that's what this initiative is about to help ensure that we

prevent turkey from permanently taking root in northern syria and that's working with draws as quickly as possible so look to see was it good in my view turkey will only withdraw if it has a guarantee for its own security interests and they can best be ensured internationally. you're also c.d.u. party leader and you've had to put up with a lot of criticism in the last few weeks and months. how much does it annoy you that the convention of you having 1st stab at becoming chancellor has been broken with by the consequent hard i'm faso up one quarter this is. not an issue for me i've always said that i was elected as party leader so i see it as my job to lead from the front. i've made proposals also with regard to the upcoming end of the normal period of office at the moment my fellow party members and i are concentrating on renewing the party profile with new key players

a new faces for the hope local market. and real. organizing the party so that we are able to forge a successful campaign at the next parliamentary elections and emerge as strongest party that is the be all and end all for a successful transitional consequences for these it has and how confident are you right now that this legislative period will last until 2021 because in the once again i can say that the c.d.u. is taking this responsibility very seriously and that we also want to take responsibility for this legislative period the sad means until 2021 months we can see how volatile the international situation is we see that there are challenges in the economic sector so there really is a lot to do voters expect us to answer their justified questions and not to spend the next few months neither the s.p.d. nor the c.d.u. only focusing on ourselves. our minister thank you for this interview you're

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