some contractors. and investigative documentary goes to italy and china and looks behind the glamorous for a fashion houses. behind them it starts november 1st g.w. . rooting for the spray he's cleaning up your mess isn't a no no how do you sleep at night i have a basket an apology for my people let me tell you from ethiopia has come a long way in a short time there's a new peace deal with eritrea and a new prime minister apparently determined to bring accountability for the human rights abuses of the past my guest this week here in brussels this is previous haile mariam vessel and who denied for many years that human rights violations have taken place and whose government locked up many thousands of political prisoners i

see no shame for the torture that was perpetrated and the lives that were ruined during his time in office. harlem i am desolate welcome to the conflict zone thank you so much thank you for having me ethiopia has a new prime minister now of the who took over after you resigned last year he's now received the nobel peace prize basically for undoing many of the evils of your government and doing what you couldn't do within a 100 days. don't you feel something of a failure when you look at what he's done. i know that because. i have done my share to bring this change to happen. premise that abby

has not come from blue moon it has come from the past in which i was there is a thing you have but he's begun correcting the massive human rights abuses which were a prominent feature of your toilet race that is it is my party which started the reform process and we say. the process should be a deterrent no one to the country basically but also to the party itself so i think that is a process which yielded stevy. prime minister so he continued with the process pro reform my gender that my party and his party over the global community cited his achievements as lifting the country's state of emergency granting amnesty to thousands of political prisoners for years you always denied there were in the scrapping media censorship legalizing outlawed opposition groups dismissing military and civilian leaders suspected of corruption

all the things that you failed to do when you were in office by the way do you know that 9095 percent of the prisoners being released due to my office. before i left office and before i resigned so i think what i would be did was that remaining 5 percent which has to be released so the decision was a decision of the party. and i took that action before i resigned how many did you release almost 4000000 something how many more than 3000 or so you know where there were many more than 3000 in jail yeah but it's only young people who've recently been arrested been released but the main political figures which has been that mr been released. it in my terms before i resign in may this year the attorney general . filed criminal charges against your former intelligence chief to ask alleging

human rights abuses and corruption he's gone missing that you know where he will have it i don't know i'm not in office now no information 20 other people were charged with him he had served until june 28th seen. he had served you as prime minister who were denying that any human rights abuses were being committed i think you're lucky information lou you're lucky with this it is my government and my party who admitted that there has been moderates abuse. here often here in interviews say nobody's being mistreated we have no political prisoners one off to the other you gave interviews sitting smiling across the fields of usa no everything's fine here you know you always forget you have to understand the way how our part to operate not was aware of the state in the way you operate with me if you like yourself let me finish 1st if that's the case then

you know that we have been historically you have to understand that in the 1st place this is a party fighting left and you know us. when there is a communist mentality and when it's a marxist mentality there is a centralism where you draw into afterward your party decides one issue even though you have differences in as a minority you take with you so you just hold the line whatever it is because you're too cowardly to say anything about what's really going on i think is that it's no excuse that some sort of misplacing the whole thing is that we believe in our party and the government that we need to reform our system we need to bring up. changes and we need to democratize our country because that's a country with number of interest this and there is an introduction of ethnic

mobilized politics which is very dangerous and therefore we have we have disabled that we need to go to certain deep valley in the forming our country which is a person of the actual being busy in washington you didn't get it i need we're going to have a force doing well if you had done that prime minister when he came in bam is that abby wouldn't have had to condemn police brutality pledged to richer rein in the security services tackle what he called economic mismanagement corruption and rights abuses all of this spending far as you want to spin off of this is also misplaced see because produce that abby has more come from a blue moon he has built another way where he came for us and they're with us he's cleaning up illnesses and no no it's not he's not cleaning up his misses he's going to be all messed up the mess you left dark knight i think this is also misplacing and i really always say that you know correctly this is our party's admission of

our collective mistake and then we put in place properly these are the things that you failed to do by november last year dozens of intelligence officers and high level officials have been arrested including people from the military run metals and engineering corp met tech on charges of corruption and human rights abuses you learned that helped put those charges to that speed that is the study which i introduced 1000000 to be finished i mean it. november last year you weren't in office i did it you don't have any business i did it i lunched in the studies and then completion of the 2 studies then action has been a good turn in general said $63.00 people have been arrested that months november last year 27 for corruption $36.00 on charges of human rights violations that included the former head of mattick conflict bagnio a brigadier general over whom you did nothing you did nothing about him in that

study you lucky with this i love the study i say in the group of people who study the study it's challenging people with human words north of charlotte every issue to lean on each other up to each other to people after you said after concretely when there is a criminal investigation and use it that investigation has been launched by may 3rd local media said huge sums of money were missing from this company a matter of whether the girl let the let the court decide on it as prime minister he was supposed to look after the public places that the military was supposed to follow your orders. and you for seem to fail spectacularly to make them do that for him to feel any remorse at the crimes you were allowed to take place when you were prime minister no i think i have resigned because i was not able to you know change dramatically whatever has to come be going to week because no i i say defection actually i have my own history in this and i have my own weaknesses and you have to

not to look into only the weaknesses but you had to also see the strength of this country has gone and you know you know that my country has been visited during my tenure by 6 of the 77 leaders and they all announces that this country has been working very hard at double digit grows and they cannot make. achievements where we have it's dictated our people out of poverty the only country which has actually in. 7 out of this 8 images and now whether the by the united nations by my time so i think you have to see all those positive things we have achieved last day of them by the last of them mr the attorney general. said investigated her uncovered serious abuses by security services at secret prisons in the capital and elsewhere to know what your security officers were doing

in the single presence i don't know those thieves might switch in the future or ask the visit how can i do or if your intelligence doesn't give me information how can you know there were plenty of foreign reports that torture was going on which you do not own it and yawned and now you're telling me you didn't know what was going on i didn't see your scenario is no service your denials were just pro-forma denials no are not going to know everything when you were in office no not at all you did you said they don't know everything you didn't you didn't know what was going on in these prisons you didn't ask you weren't interested. they know it or fish only we know some of the appeal of abuse this and i have taken in my time some of the actions. of those things but i didn't know that there are informal prisons which has been there the attorney general said there 'd are people who have been blinded and held in darkness for long periods of time others have been left infertile because of blows to their genitals there are some that had limbs broke or

women have been subjected to go rape and men have been sort of modest all this happened until your rule so i had one she was shame that this was going on until you were ruled no i am a bit of a shared that when this happened but i didn't know those things and if i knew those things i would architected them because this is a very sacred things happened well it didn't take long for this prime minister to find out what was going on so obviously nice looking in like place and you do not believe you know either you didn't want to look at each area in mid room for this prayer to art i struggled very hard to bring him to power and i did every you lost your job that's why you gave up you lost control of the party lost faith in you that's why you gave up what i think you can you can say that going to be struggling to control the rest in the country because of this very rare case of those who are out in it myself i did it intentionally because i wanted to see that

this change should come so i think this is genuinely what has happened and i did my best in paving the way for this to happen so i think that has to be clearly kind of did i did i think a big clearly wriggle of it when we have been in your prisons during your term in office with being subjected to gang rape and men to some of them are ization now that you know this even if you say you didn't know it at the time. where is your apology to the victims i would have already approved as well when they said when they resigned because that's the system which was open to me and many of you meant to the victims and apologize personally to them if there is a need to be i will you haven't done so have you i have i have been to get those chance and i with we have with conciliation and through them any consolation commission established and ask process as well how do you sleep at night knowing

that this was going on in your torture centers carried out by your officials when you were prime minister how do you sleep at night if i knew then i said to you that i was there to collect everything in my disposal if i knew it but i did notice your meal your said to be a religious man from a family of pentecostalists the sovereign deathstroke. how others gang rape and sodomy ization fit in with your religious values no i didn't know i say if a new it doesn't fit in in my prayers but you went on denying it denying it denounce newspoll in the average interview that that's the report there the noisy despite the reports coming early in the human rights groups all over the world which you just rubbished you said that's not true there are outsiders there are

enemies don't listen to them everything is fine you said i think i have never said everything is fine you said there was no mistreated us i said there was 'd no mistreatment going on there is a problem but i was saying that my report is that it's not to the extent where has been said that's what i'm saying by then any case i report which i wish i was giving to the public which which was the case let's take another detention center gigo central prison otherwise known as jail regional detention center in the east of the country but ministered in public by your special police it was closed in august last year do you know what was going on there as well no i don't know why not you knew the prison existed and you know what you and i do i will during our city you have no curiosity mr high among you didn't want to know what was going on in your jails no it's not the case you know that in jail governments have their own

rights and i think the whole thing is i did my my work according to the reports they get from my intelligence and from my sources and therefore that's what what was the kids. people reported there were many of the former prison those who said they saw people dying in their cells after being tortured by officials in this our god then jailers as it was called what should happen to the officials who carried out this torture. i mean what should happen to them. there in prison fax it. just prison sentences and what should happen to you for turning a blind eye to it that depends on the legal system of the country you know i have his own simply because to take all the responsibilities but what is extraordinary is that with all the abuses that were carried out when you were prime minister you

accepted from the new prime minister the nation's highest award for service without even blushing without any embarrassment whatsoever now that you know what was going on while you were prime minister why didn't you give back a little more. why should i because i have a number of positive things i have because you failed to take control this is one part of it and it's the incident that says you trollish is are you watching guys walk in my in my country that doesn't explain that's not the only thing you know i have done many good things there are issues in the system which are definitely what i initiated to reform and did conduct reform because i understood that age of you know before news admission and the student there are something going wrong therefore i initiated this reform and then i have released 95 percent of the you are insured office for 6 years in this new prime minister has

come in and done more for human rights than you did in all the time you were there is because they paved the way for him really the u.s. state department in 2016 published a catalogue of the human rights abuses taking place on the your rule which of course you deny it but then over the moon to be true arbitrate killings disappearances torture harsher life threatening prison conditions detention without charge you know minute where they really weren't but it's what they said but how can you salvage you didn't know what was going on when all these reports were pointing to what was yes and whenever they knew that there are things going wrong i initiated the reform and the serious reform and the before and that's the result where the prime minister has come into power. you said when your is on the do you want it to be part of the solution in ethiopia how can you be part of the solution when you so much part of the problem. you know i do come part of the solution

because in there is a problem which you were able to reach you are going to created the atmosphere of permissive doubtlessly in which your security officials believed they could torture but it was all right to torture go on torturing disappearing people no judicial experience no do you created the atmosphere in which that was possible no i didn't create the atmosphere so while profile is then the system has been established then anyone who's you want within this could be accounted for but i didn't create this this point this the environment for them it is a deep system which i was not able to look into because of my background and because of my you know i must say that are coming into the deep system so i couldn't see that when mr big came into power he couldn't wait to condemn the legacy of your government and draw a line in the time in office could be

a pro last year he said that the government your government had sanctioned torture of its prisoners and said it had been guilty of state terrorism he said it he said in parliament does the constitution say anyone who was sentenced by a court can be tortured put into a dark netscape doesn't that still that government was the his arms were not only mine you were the prime minister who was our prize in this order but with you is there also the buck stopped yeah you could literally decided to reform including the ins and outs of what the responsibility lay hailes not to you how do you yet use yes it is that you're trying to get around to get what you're trying to get out of his wife and she did that for him that's why admission that you know why i'm here to tell you for the here in asia is usual for you blocked every attempt by the united nations special rapporteur that should come during our visit it should call for mass we have issued counties where the future. he come up from us and the only

message i need locked i only reason you blocked him are you investigating was because you didn't want them to find out what was going on i did and i initiated that before before my eyes that mission a year will undoubtedly for me is that work that you sell to paintings that are going to come to power conjured so beautiful light clear all of it him to power the conscience of people were killed in the your regime and you refused to have an independent investigation led by the un chief human rights official if you ask the killings the last one and a half years the number of killings side past in 6 years what happened in my town if you ask for killings look that is good that is so the whole thing is you know i initiated this new form a year ago before my dislike mission and i put in there when for the new system you would have seen the bush was in you say you are surely to reform you created

a regime where people were tortured and disappeared and had their rights taken away from them consistently turns i have our thousands of people i did not is not needed our biases are beyond our basket an apology to my people that the region has some abuses of you know who my doubts and the deficit and democracy and that has happened i am and i still feel that i'm sorry for that but i can dish it out so much will come up as not much of an apology as it really isn't a half hearted apology no it is not a new we are not the same you know it would have taken you to the last as many leadership program as ours you may want to spare you lost the faith or not i haven't lost that security forces haven't was the army they already have a rest for their big arrest and they should know by this that they should have been investigated under your time a worthwhile one to continue as the tartarus you know i could have missed everything up to the. lost of my bit so you know what you know more than is

a dictatorship yet you always claim that democracy took time you always said this is a fledgling democracy it takes time and this isn't this is what every dictator says act the way they doso want to give up all the book yourself in europe you pass through a number of signal wars before you can you seriously want to present read to you tell you do says it's not target bar the advance on hari these days is why are they show or even york united states everywhere in the western countries you democracy has taken time and it has not come in one shot in one day and one week and 1000000 it has taken you too much and that is cruel and that will continue democracy is building democratic culture here is not justice everything to slow it down this trial of murder and we've never shied away from associations or friendships either with indicted or convicted war criminals do they hold some special fascination for

you and these people with guns like mr r. bushehr the former president of the bill in august you posted a controversial picture on facebook of you smiling next to ethiopia as exiled marxist leader mingus to a highly murray m and then you took it out when there was a huge outcry because this man of course was found guilty in the sense here of genocide by the way i made him incidentally when i was there in some buy when he was in the president's office when i was there in the president's office when i made him and i talked to him so that's what happened in any case and you posted a comment saying i wish to see more former heads of government and states in my country contributing their parts in different capacity of the peaceful transition of political will of the doctors not to me it is the officers there who did it and they say this is wrong. certainly you don't want mr mengistu with his conviction

for genocide to play a part in the new ethiopia i think if we go through a true isn't it a conciliation commission and if he is or should be given a chance to you know to apologize and then anything what the through senate confirmation commission bleeds into it i then that leads the country and it's a conciliation i have a deep belief that we needed conciliation what matters is what some of the past even the future is what is something the possible answers that genocide isn't something you just you just out there see by just feeling our way when the how did it it was rationed to the to make country explain to me please how a conviction for one of the most serious crimes on the planet would qualify mr mingus to contribute to the well being of your country i would i would imagine with a qualification like that i think it depends on how did it one conviction for the side of genocide for the most serious crime in us you are entirely this is south

africa as if you can say a part of it isn't genocide with the whole mind that for you it's not just for africans it is more than generous where is your truth and reconciliation commission it is that has been established and we see that is that for years apartheid that's not my for us it is so you're quite happy for convicted war criminals to come back to your country and play their part good old boys good old boy solution procedure i love that yes if not then no how should future generations in africa protect themselves from people like you. they should democratize the country's growth dictators like you know. i think leveling media type that is wrong. is wrong and this is use is not my my people. so i think this is misplacing again this is

a good from yourself. i like. thank you very much for being the culprits themselves. the be. the big.

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