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the gold mine of story. with exclusive insights. into a must see concerning part time culture in your. place to be curious minds. do it yourself networkers. so subscribing don't miss out. on real. growth is a key factor for prosperity in any society that's basic economics but in the face of rising concern about our natural environment and the effects of climate change more and more people are asking could it be that less growth is actually moles or can we achieve growth that is actually good for the planet and how those are the
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questions we're asking today on maids and some of the answers might surprise you. in the wake of the fridays for future movement it's not only schoolchildren protesting against climate change around the world germany they have now been joined by businesspeople a group of 4000 startup founders is calling for a new approach to industry and production they call themselves entrepreneurs for a future let's listen. beyond the name and i think our businesses are always used as an excuse that they can't or won't change and you mustn't harm the economy the way here is entrepreneurs to say that we're ready to take action to protect our climate some. books they can through the north for short haul flights or something only and sex should be taken we have
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a policy both in our private lives and in the company that we won't take a plane for any trip under a 1000 kilometers. good then we need to change our system and work with politicians to define a new game plan that makes a particular. this is what we're here to say that economic growth isn't everything we can't work without an intact planet. we need this circular economy where we treat the earth's resources in a sustainable fashion. mass production and minotaur as ation of household appliances and electronics have made them cheaper for all of us but that's also have a side effect that repairing standard appliances like baking cleaners mixes or
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kettles is an economical and in many cases even impossible the result mountains of electronic waste full of rare earths and toxic chemicals to make matters worse many manufacturers actually design electronics to wear out their constructed in such a way that they must function after a certain amount of time so consumers have to buy a new one that's been bothering my colleague's christian koala for a long time so he's joined a radical new movement. thank you how can everything in my speakers without breaking the bank i don't think you can. we're buying more and more stuff that's less and less the world for
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example electric goods are the fastest growing type of waste in the ward and the result. more and more which. is the way to do it when you look into the container you see some really old laundry machines are. either could not be repaired or consume so much energy then makes sense to have a new one and if you can something. many things could be repaired like my laptop. but i would like to have very poor less ok cool or not so long actually that is not a big this be a 1st print move from hardship. ok
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but the problem is magazines using more apples using some special kind of screws. my name is over lowry co-founder of the restart project the 1st prime p. of examples of designs that limits consumers ability to repair and reuse a problem. like batteries that cannot be removed or products to be glued rather than screw. you. screw the group that's a good one yeah it's a problem of this sign any a deliberate choice the manufacturers me that's why. there is this theoretical understanding that the product will fail that they are your legal warranty expires the american. came up with planned obsolescence way
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back in 1032 he thought it would be a good way to boost the economy because it would force customers to buy more products. are. incredibly flawed because what we're seeing is the type of innovate that actually does not put. more people at the center but whether we like it or not the products we buy aren't built for the ages. become obsolete way he would. get customers are angry about that. to fix it. by. using this thing. that's been the source of my worst experience because they won't support this and we can't get through.
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awareness of the problem is growing both in the u.s. and europe my name is. not on. the small team of 3 young. starting a petition father writes i'm retired last year but we collected more than 100000 signatures in 3 months so this movement want. to repair. it. so that they're easy to take up our road is long but the movement is getting stronger. confident that we're going to win every one of. everyone in the street what they think about our product that they want to retire early so that no one wants products that are taken for you we've done in our class think we can change that for the future of
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electronic. data and they can not do you still. call it that now let's think that's true if you can repair your stuff at a reasonable cost you don't need to buy new stuff with practice becomes widespread which is how it used to be in case you're too young to remember the growth model that our economy is relies upon will certainly take a hit well if that idea appeals to you you aren't alone supporters of the d. growth movement are calling for all of us to cut down on consumption for the sake of the planet and our own wellbeing. more growth more production and consumption that seems to be they do show recipe for boosting prosperity and that in turn means using more resources which is less good for the
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environment we're now using up natural resources an estimated $1.00 times faster than the planet can replenish them. critics of unbridled economic growth a calling for a stop to that growth is an international association of academics who want a global slowdown in order to save the planet growth wants us to be content with less to cut consumption the group does see the need for some people to have a car for example but if you do buy one then make it a small and preferably used model a key element of g. growth approach is what's being called the repair revolution where consumer items are red head and not discarded and replaced the idea would also require industry to manufacture products that last longer in this way industrial production which shrink and sharing is also crucial 3 neighbors alternately using the same general
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means fewer resources consumed finally the more just society imagined by growth would have a government guaranteed minimum and maximum wage to ensure a fairer distribution of wealth critics say the model would mean job losses and a low economic output would also make an expensive modern health care system an affordable industrial nations growth system has also been called unsuitable for developing nations which need to prosper the movements on such a global redistribution if a radical alternative to the belief in unfettered growth. higher faster further how much longer can growth continue given the fact that our resources are finite opinions are divided of course we called on 2 opposing experts to discuss growth and its limits tim jackson an economist from the university of sorry and andrew bose
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a worse on the pimco investment fund. an economy needs to grow or does it. to opinions the idea of growth for ever on a finite i just doesn't make sense. to move you have the pitcher does for employment. we might have to be careful about what we wish here in terms of 0 growth. what's more perspective career path and that sort of world am i going to have to wait and the older people in my company retire before i get a promotion it's going to mean very slow progress in increasing my income there are a real opportunities i would argue in moving towards a different kind of economy and one of those up the chain it's in the nature of the quality and quantity of work that could be available to people low employment would
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be one of the consequences of a growth for a slower economy with more for example more healthcare more education or social care more jobs that require human input and human labor you could find yourself in a position with labor shortages rather than unemployment. as you move away from a growth based economy. it could mean more jobs it could mean if us you can say but what we do know is that the concept of economic growth is only a challenge to an affluent country. i think it's a 1st world problem we have the luxury of having that problem because our living standards are high in parts of the world where we're living standards are lower or you live in poverty you might have a completely different perspective on that growth is one of the ways of getting people out of poverty the data is very very clear if you raise. the incomes of the
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poorest across the world from nothing to around about 10 or 15000 dollars you have extraordinary improvements in quality of life but that doesn't really let the growth based economy off the hook in countries where actually an increasing grace has led in some cases to a decline in wellbeing where an increase in greece has led to rising inequality. the standard indication of economic growth is g.d.p. a market she measure of the market value of all of the final goods and services a country produces. their measure is has a quite a few faults it doesn't properly capture the well being of society so think of examples such as mental health or the distribution of that income the g.d.p. gross domestic product concept doesn't capture those things as well it's not as it
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turns out even a measure of the stability of the economy that year just before the financial crash in 2007 was one of the best years for the g.d.p. so we're not sure we're using the right metric our experts agree on much but also agree that the state needs to set boundaries for the economy government has a very clear role to play in setting the conditions under which businesses operate has a very clear role to play in putting in place protections around the climate for example it has a responsibility to ensure also the society that we live in. protects the interests of everyone and not just the privileged few markets can help but they also need guidance as well as need to be see it because of no boundaries you end up with outcomes that are from a from a well being perspective sub optimal. well
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taking a skeptical view of growth us all well and good but in truth that's something off a theoretical debate because over here in the west we've heard it in the reports growth is limited anyway meanwhile many parts of asia and africa are growing at rites of up to 6 percent that's of course generates a lot of c o 2 as a byproduct additional power generation transportation and a growing middle class need energy so the whole saw no growth from well meaning environmentalists understandably falls on deaf ears in many parts of africa job growth for decades many say now give us. the kenyan capital nairobi has a population of around 4 and a half 1000000 that's not large by global standards but it is one of the world's fastest growing cities shopping centers are springing up all over reflecting the rising wealth of the middle class. the economy of the city is expected to grow by 6
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percent this year. economists at the think tank interregional economic network are calling for more trade between african countries they're skeptical about the criticism of growth expressed by environmentalists in the west. because we're not is not for the environmentalists mostly in western countries when they're saying they're opposed to grow up. they're jailing people in poor countries to remain in poverty because in poor countries we're struggling to actually move out of poverty trouble brittle wellbeing and if someone says we should not grow we're simply saying we should remain poor we should remain stuck with diseases and from. kenya wants to do the opposite and stimulate growth to fight poverty. nairobi at least it's bursting at the seams despite smog and congestion the city is attracting
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investors. one selling point that it's touting is lots of cheap labor. that's convinced an indian plant manufacturer which would like to produce valves in kenya. we as a manufacturer we are looking forward to a woman fracturing programme to start all manufacturing programmes in the canyon after we see how the market is this morning of. kenya is proving to be especially attractive to fin tech companies. kenya has a high 'd level penetration rate. internet and also can use the power of mobile 2 money and this has created. 'd for local and foreign investors another expanding sector of the economy is a waste recycling that's born of necessity is kenya has become a dumping ground for waste from industrial nations something that economists james
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she feels is no help at all. the western countries is one we have become support just impossible look at their own food print we should have to agree but not poor which 2 to every way it in part or in poor countries so that if there is a ticket for payment or compensation then that has to be something that is there to believe them. kenya is certainly being impacted by climate change temperatures are rising and rainfall is growing more intense and unpredictable just a few kilometers from nairobi is wealthy centers kibera often called africa's largest urban slum life expectancy here is just 30 years people in their wisdom countries addressing the challenges of climate change and took a boat extinction and you know from a poor country point of view you can also argue that poverty can do to extinction
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when people don't. of the ability to take care of diseases to be able to feed themselves to to live a comfortable life but also is a big threat to humanity so the message from kenya is both environmental protection and economic growth are essential to improve the lives of the poor. now when it comes to boosting personal wealth people have been betting on one particular practice that's been around for centuries gambling a recent visit to the world's time gambling capital macau left are made reports a cure there are wondering if this stash will administrative region of china doesn't set the stakes too high for itself. this isn't paris it isn't venice it isn't even less vegas this is macau casino capital of the world and one
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of the richest places on earth. this well follow for. many people here criticize the government use the money to you know. the rest of. the special administrative region of my car is in southern china and i was ferry ride from hong kong the city has about 6 160000 inhabitants. this is my 2nd time here and i'm definitely not the only one visiting over 35000000 tourists came here in 2018 the vast majority of them from mainland china.
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it's pretty annoying but most people come here for one reason only. because he knows gambling is illegal in mainland china but not in moscow resulting in. the fact that. i've never seen anything like this before it's just insane like disneyland plus vegas on steroids but how did this happen let's back up a lot starting in the 16th century macau was on the portuguese control the port city was usually overshadowed by its bigger system the british colony of hong kong the colonial past explains the european touch macau was handed back to china in 1909 but it has remained a special administrative region with its own laws borders and currency. as a time of the handover was not as well off as today but in 2002 china opened
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a casino concessions to foreign investors the gambling industry and with it the local economy skyrocketed making macau the 2nd wealthiest place on the capital after. obviously we missed sometimes by the same time we're happy to see the development of the city too but he doesn't want to put too much focus on his employees because enough on one hand the gaming industry definitely changed and then they speak a lot bigger and so on the other hand has changed to a way that it's become a lot more to fight in times of peace offerings galaxy entertainment group one of my cars biggest casino and resort operators rather wants to showcase its other offerings its result features 6 hotels with almost $4000.00 rooms $120.00 restaurants and bars a cinema a mall basically a city in its own right but still close to 90 percent of the revenue comes from the
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one thing i can't film. right here next to me that's where the casino actually is but i'm not allowed to film inside and i'm not even allowed to film the writing casino on top of it so i asked i took a look around a different one without a camera. and. it was so huge inside you could have easily gone and made it up the whole point of it but the amount of sips on those poker tables i didn't play myself but that something else. tax revenues from the gaming industry account for almost 90 percent of my budget that benefits the locals and thanks again say no jobs unemployment is only about 2 percent every citizen gets a cash handout of iran 1100 euros a year subsidized health care and free to cation through high school. but dependence on casino money can become a liability. force and what has happened is we've ended up being more dependent
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on. china than ever before so a large part probably somewhere around 70 to 80 percent is our estimate of our gaming revenue comes from china not only that beginning industry itself has become the bjorn and then all in macau us economy so yes sucked all the manpower resources . from our economy efforts have been made to diversify the economy but not very successfully that dip in macau g.d.p. that happened partly because china cracked down on corrupt high rollers who like to frequent mccullough's because he knows. and it's not only the economic dependency that has some residents worried. yes they're screwed for to earn more money and have you know the jobs guarantees are
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also but they're small enough for a whole questi of our society suso is my cars youngest lawmakers many people ignore the politics here. you know the media and education system always. the resident it's more economics last politics. the media is heavily government controlled which means by china speaking up can have consequences through so was suspended from parliament in late 2017 over a protest against a government linked organization. she was reinstated half a year later and remains one of the few outspoken critics of the government. yet this place is it raising rates sometimes and the citizens benefit from the system as long as you keep quiet so that you want to go on.
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the big. to the point strong opinion submissions international perspective. this was supposed to be the decisive week for exit but where the interests of we even whether the u.k. will leave the e.u. remains unclear now the timetables partly after brussels can westminster seal a deal that's our topic on to the point join us coming up the bell 13 the dutch are. obliged to the oceans
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30 years after the fall of the berlin wall november night get a w. to france and to run tony and here's a scene he just sits opposite as i'm sitting on the terrace in twilight if it's peaceful my 3 grandchildren sleep on trouble as asked out when i was a france is a chance of germany was split in 2 and remain divided for a decade assonance it was my give on a months when your mother was born in 1969 the wall was already 8 years ago and you know my grandchildren who were born after the war felt born in a green unified germany a wonderful time a time of great joy. 3 generations one family on a journey through recent german history. darkness
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has fallen and it's still peaceful. and it remains so for your sanction my grandchildren. the berlin wall our family and start to member 60 on do you double you. believe. this is news these are our top stories nato defense ministers have been discussing the situation in northern syria and efforts to stabilize the region turkey's recent incursion into northern syria and its collaboration with russia a nato rival have been causing tensions the german defense ministers proposal to create an internationally enforce security zone received a lukewarm reception. bolivia's president.
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