close behind the glamorous for songs of rationality the jury behind the girl starts nov 5th on d w. place . this is d. w. news live from berlin turkey is not convinced by a german plan for an international safe zone in northeastern syria german foreign minister heiko ma says in ankara for talks with his turkish counterpart says the proposal is not realistic mazas visit comes amid tensions over turkey's offensive against kurds in northern syria. also coming up on precedented mass protests in

chile of 21000000 people take to the streets of the capital santiago and elsewhere in the south american country there is the biggest rallies yet in a week of protests in which at least 19 people have died. plus in german soccer the bundesliga it's fears this rivalry always inflame the passions of football fans and on saturday afternoon it's that time again hold on to your seeds when shall to take outdoor plans with local bragging rights at stake. i'm married to evanston it's good to have you with us turkey has rejected a german proposal to create a un backed securities own in northern syria turkish foreign minister. sholto

called the proposal on realistic he made the comments at a joint press conference with his german counterpart heikal mohsin ankara. blasted germany over its criticism of ankara's offensive against kurdish militias calling for more solidarity in what turkey sees as a fight against terrorism the german foreign minister called for a lasting cease fire in the region and he urged turkey to comply with international law when dealing with refugees moscow's visit comes amid bilateral tensions over turkey's military campaign in syria. well for more on the story i'm joined now by our foreign policy editor status or darr here in the studio with me and turkey correspondent yulia han is standing by for us in istanbul hello to both of you yulia i'd like to begin with you tell us what came out of that meeting between the 2 foreign ministers. well tensions were

running high at this press conference there between the 2 foreign ministers the turkish foreign minister. started with harshly criticizing germany 1st of all he said germany does not appreciate not turkish aphex when it comes to hosting refugees we know that turkey is hosting 3600000 refugees from syria more than any other country in the world and then he also said that the turkish military operation in north in syria has been and i quote him here disproportionately criticize been disproportionately criticized in germany and the german media he said trust has been breached so sounding quite angrily there and then he also mentioned the agreements turkey has reached with the u.s. and russia about the situation within syria and he emphasized that these 2 countries have recognized the legitimacy off turkey's over ration and this is the

major source of disagreement here between the takesh and the german foreign minister because heikal mas as we know ahead of his visit clearly said that he considers the turkish military operation and i quote him an invasion that is not in accordance with international law he repeated this today and that was something you can you could clearly feel in this press conference this was causing a lot of tension all right so a tense press conference and the turkish foreign minister sounding rather angry as you described it saying that turkey is being unfairly criticized for its campaign in northern syria say to how to respond to all of this well yes the press conference was quite tense also last year at a similar time we had another press conference which was much more friendly than this one. made for important points that he said it was important for him 1st he said cooperation against the i.r.s. to continue that's very very crucial. for germany for turkey and for all of the

allies the other point he made was that the cease fire should continue after the sochi agreement deadline expires which is going to be next tuesday by 6 pm and he said he got a guarantee from all of the plater in the question part said well we're not talking about guarantees for let's just say we gave confirmation the other point that was important for germany is that what i called the legal international law how the 2 countries perceive this turkey is a military operation that is very different and. so that was another point that made and finally he also said the most important thing actually which is what is coming up next week is the meeting in geneva where a new syrian constitution is going to be discussed so a political solution to the syria problem was the most of their final points that i must meet all right now yeah i want to ask you about this proposal by germany's

defense minister who is suggesting there should be an internationally controlled security zone in northern syria kind of a controversial idea did that come up in the talks today. well it came up in the press conference but let me emphasize this is a proposal by the german defense minister not by germany's foreign minister there is no agreement within the german coalition government about this plan and this is of course something the tucker side clearly noticed so they said you know there is no agreement in the german government once they have a plan they can approach as we'll have a look at it and we of course appreciate any kind of help with our safe zone plan there but in the end. i dismiss this plan as a realistic could turkey it seems that is determined to go ahead with its own so-called safe zone plan so 1st to clear the area of the kurdish fighters which

ankara considers terrorists and then starts setting up a safe zone and then returning refugees that but he clearly emphasized that any refugee who would go back to that so-called say so and would do so voluntarily this is something i was asking him about was pushing for so and they've shown no was keen on emphasizing that old would be voluntarily. all right so it's still clear that there's a lot of disagreement about turkey's activities in northern syria with regard to the refugees with regard to its campaign against the kurds saida tell us about just the state of german turkish relations these are some very serious issues that they're disagreeing on yes these are very serious issues that they're disagreeing on in the specially when all this military operation invasion of course that was something that the turkish sides fully rejected and president on afterward said

anyone who calls this an invasion should be ready to receive the 3600000 syrian refugees living in turkey so yes the relations are tense but at the same time the 2 leaders made an effort to meet and hamas said it is better to talk with each other instead of about each other so there are some steps being taken baby steps but yes the relations will remain a bit tense status and are here in the studio and you know hunt for us in istanbul thank you so much to both of you. let's turn our attention now to some of the other stories making news around the world in iraq relatives held funerals in baghdad and the city of najaf for anti-government demonstrators who died in violent protests on friday 42 people were killed and thousands were wounded hundreds of protesters gathered again today in central baghdad for another day of mass demonstrations. british police are still trying to identify the $39.00 victims found dead in a truck in essex earlier this week at least 2 vietnamese families now say they fear

their relatives are among the dead it was originally thought that all of the victims were chinese nationals. a russian woman jailed in the united states on spying charges has returned to moscow one day after her release from detention maria bettina pleaded guilty last december to conspiring to act as an unregistered agent for russia the russian foreign ministry says she was the victim of anti russian attitudes in the u.s. . to chile now where massive crowds have taken to the streets for a 7th day of anti-government protests demonstrators are calling for economic reforms and for the resignation of president sebastian pinera the signs of the largest demonstration by far was in the capital sunday aagot. a march such to go down in the history books as possibly the largest ever seen in chile an estimated

1000000 demonstrators converged on downtown santiago bringing traffic to a standstill as crowds made their way to central plaza. protesters vented anger over low wages and pensions inequality and the rising cost of education and health care their fury has been found by president sebastian pinera response to a week of unrest imposing a state of emergency and night time curfews protesters called on him to listen up or resign. yet there they love you made at the end of this the 1st thing the president has to do is get the military off the streets and change the cabinet and he needs to ensure that there are conscious people making statements to the country that are consistent with what people want listening to the people that's all that president pinera has already promised social reform measures and in the face of friday's record breaking rally he took to twitter stating we have all listened to the message we have all changed. but his post is unlikely to quell public anger

as night fell violence erupted once again with demonstrators fighting pitched battles against police on the streets of santiago. when as they go soccer now and shall gun barista dortmund kick off in around 15 minutes in what is germany's fiercest game between 2 local rivals just one point separates them in the table but ahead of the encounter in dortmund coach listen 5 is under pressure after a string of underwhelming results. this match is being billed as lucy in the fall for his dates with destiny if some reports are to be believed that defeat against bitter rivals shall co would spell the end of his reign as dortmund coach is the writing on the. far right says not as his efforts are darby is a very special game i've known that since the moment i arrived it's very important but there's a pressure for every game and it's no different for shell shock at those darby and

it's very special. this bit of. a special match but one with bad recent memories for dortmund fans before 2 home defeat at the end of last season top their title chances but form and posterity results will come from nothing according to the man preparing for his 1st road darby club when he does when the automatic i don't. you can automatically draw any advantages or disadvantages not even from the latest results and especially not darby results for the business what happens in the days or weeks before it doesn't matter. it's completely irrelevant. and it's all down to one game nothing less than local bragging rights are up for grabs and for some jobs there on the line to. now mount everest is the mountain every passionate climber wants to

conquer and the number of people attempting the climb has been rising steadily in recent years the trackers do not take their trash bag down the mountain with them they leave it behind and local nepalese are left to deal with the dump. it's a bucket list experience with an ugly footprint. the desire to reach the roof of the world has left the slopes of mount everest an open rubbish dump gas canisters food containers climbing gear all simply thrown away. much of it now buried under the snow. in the center of this you know both government and climbing groups organized a major cleanup retrieving tons of trash i don't know. from the camps was taken to kathmandu for recycling. after these westerners said gone but none of us had leased the waste is not dumped not taken to a landfill only the minimum if we must working to recycle and cycle these ways as

much as possible from. drink bottles and cans the shredded for the roll plastic and the fire but some local offices also see a chance to turn trash into treasures. these wine bottles are being turned into light fixtures and glasses salvage souvenir is for everest tourists. lay people do you want your life that is actually a school and that the city's pride as well and especially recently in the dark would in our society they consider and still act when they see these kind of yes i watch. these things can be and it is possible. and businesses are on board. so i could glasses at this 5 star hotel in kathmandu that.

this is not just better for us and the environment but it's it goes bigger bigger than that but everest is also a very big problem to tackle the harder and harder to reach camp still littered with trash locals are warning that there's still a mountain of work left to clean it up. you're up to date now and d.-w. news up next is world stories omarion have been stealing from me and the entire news team thanks for watching. over information they provide the opinions they want to express t.w. on facebook and twitter up to date and in touch. with. your friends dear antone deuces see if. my 3 grandchildren sleep on trouble when i was in transit.