on the clock on our website. www dot com thanks for joining us for watching. in the tuttles way discover the. starts november 14th on. to your friends dear antonia to cecilia. my 3 grandchildren sleep on troubles when i was 8 trances ages germany was split in 2 and remain divided for decades when your mother was born in 1969 the wall was already 8 years old as you know my

grandchildren were born after the wall fell morning trying. 3 generations one family on a journey through my recent german history. this starts november 6th on d. w. . spittles i went out i want freedom we were treated like criminals dangerous criminals. state security file is hundreds of pages thick. yeah yeah it was here when this was east germany the state security watch the rest the 2 women because they wanted to leave for west germany. 30 years have passed since the berlin wall fell.

what. does geissler mean anything to you. know just sila what do you want to ring the bell i love. mr silas door and my gawd and then what do you think you'll have to talk i can't even remember him. silk or follow any loan as they both have returned to the house in berlin where they once lived the ex neighbor still lives there but he's not home. for the 2 women find their way and. just look at this place through looks a lot less to silca than it does to me i don't think it's all that bad since. i think it's pretty grubby. it's not charming. we have our window at the very top almost over the corner. all.

shined and that looks like someone lives there now. when she lived here as a young woman how life was anything but private from the stairwell across the courtyard the east german state security watched her through a kitchen window. the tree was much smaller then. i was even dizzy did you see the stars the people standing there. i didn't know until i read it. that we never would have guessed. that they was telling him. they read about it invest all the file among the hundreds of papers are intercepted letters private mail official correspondence lots of informants reports even the ground down below in a can still cause apartment. so on april 30th 1980 7 am commenced observation at residents of this light was on in the kitchen

and the window was half open so after 50 minutes the light went out saber left the apartment alone and proceeded on foot toward the summary to address a subway station. or noise at 7 pm the subject was not in the apartment a match stick wedged into the door was still in the place mentioned. this surveillance was there and it but then that all over that it. is a month had been my only someone was spying on my life and i had no idea on. him they describe me as a person from their point of view but it wasn't an especially friendly one. that left me with an unpleasant feeling. for years i wanted nothing to do with that i didn't even want to read it. as

a start but i live with it. it's been my experience that you always get through better if you live with the circumstances. but not integrate it into your life take it along and don't let it get to you and. that's the only way for listing things. like why were the 2 young women being watched. they had moved to east berlin from the countryside and found well paid jobs typist with noise and the official newspaper of the ruling socialist unity party ironic since they hardly told the party line. i'm glad i don't have to work here anymore this is so. it's worth the money it's as if you're looking at another life this is had as if it almost had nothing to do with your own life now i mean to me it's distant. a smart ass that that was the 1st part or

not to lift i'd seen in my life and the 1st time i jumped on i panicked about jumping off again just because i thought it turned upside down at the top of the marketing head of the paper which still called itself socialist takes us around the building and down memory lane. i. want to if there was also mizuki but she killed herself and then i caught up in partial impersonal. yeah she hired me. and fired. zuko using her maiden. and the loan of the decided to leave east germany they kept applying for exit visas if try flying back i doubt the credibility of the states now that i've had this the next period of how little human rights are respected in east germany that. dear mr hanukah all these absurdities involved in

processing an application for an exit visa or giving me more and more doubts about the system. for word quickly got around to the newspaper. as expected coworkers so closely tied to the party line and the patients for what they saw as callous disloyalty. we had become invisible. nobody spoke to us anymore nobody greeted us we kept on working a little but we were treated like criminals dangerous criminals and that was pretty sad because we had all got along very well before. we had not only worked together but partied together to. the fire. eventually they were both fired from noise and their future prospects were looking bad not just professionally. desponding deliberately spawn say but still living in the noise don't shine department personnel department has told them to vacate the apartment

as quickly as possible and look for work as the living space is urgently needed by the noise and playing and printer to that. in fact they threaten to forcibly evict us on and we threaten to bring in a west german camera team for them so nothing happened you often pass at the next. what business is here this is it oh no end of horrors. that was here yeah that was here. but the system hit back in this official building. that yes it was really terrible here the 2 women were summoned here again and again for interrogation lasting i was. i've got a very physical feeling but no memory just a bad physical feeling like. you i'm getting butterflies in my stomach yeah yes not good not good at all it's got. to eventually the interrogation

stopped. today this is the home this administration building. would be ministers it's called it was down there by the next seating area at least that's the feeling i have. was and that's what kind of feeling is that kind of not good. no not a good one not fun at all. not a good feeling once you do you want to go there and you know if you queasy somehow . and yes let's go there. you have to return to the scene of the horror. but i feel really awful physically really awful i could just start crying or. think go ahead and. and. i think it was down men not at the same. thing i'm pretty sure here.

i'm sure to you. today they see the interrogations it's extremely degrading. and because all the way they greeted you was like yeah i can see right off that they're tramp's and in such a nasty tone of voice. that all the manner of the 2 applicants was insolent demanding and very arrogant. in marquis i think. you always had this fear that you couldn't go home and. come because you'd be taken to prison that's how menacing it felt to us look at all here with us all and. so it was like what cheryl it's enough just across the street wrongly we were everywhere such a massive threats that. very member very well the names of the stasi offices. called. goods would you like to meet them again night no. man.

no. absolutely not. and of course i wouldn't be able to hide how much i despise them and when i despise someone i don't want to have anything to do with them and. these events took place over 30 years ago. now the stasi records agency has provided access to their files. for the 1st time the 2 women have talked to the younger generation about why they risked everything to get out of east germany. is still i wanted out i didn't want anyone dictating that i live here even if it was socially equitable but we didn't want that and at that age you're brave enough to go ahead and act on it it is those ministers to some of those most doesn't even

know i'm for the most common the fact that i couldn't get out that i could only go to a few countries that i was allowed to visit i just couldn't accept that i couldn't accept the way things were missed on me and so i thought no i want out i want freedom laws even if i had. desire for freedom almost landed her in prison but she found work and protection in a church community. muses. about 9 months later i was through the application just. because i married the pastor at least in part. but the pastor could only marry one of you right. then have your belief and then i wondered if there weren't other ways. i thought about marrying of all gary and citizen and emigrating from bulgaria. but then i realized that my

nerves and my strength were totally shot. and we weren't living together anymore. so we couldn't support one another. i'm not sure if that was the reason which i just didn't have the strength. both of them withdrew their final applications at the start of the 18th is a bad a baby and unexpectedly got permission to leave for the west. as a pastor's wife zuko fall was also allowed to go. this distance what we been through an experienced gets there somehow it all paid off to save me and. it was my dream as a teenager was to see the world now i fulfilled it. a

defector from mr germany who was caught and arrested for. carrying border guard who did his duty. 30 years later the to meet again. a defector and the border guard. next to. these guys rocked the germans in east and west the iconic band city. she really gets audiences in the group the mega talented lindsay sterling. the exit explosive on night groups in 45 minutes.

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