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tv   Reporter  Deutsche Welle  November 2, 2019 3:15pm-3:30pm CET

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according to many of the massachusetts people once a fired from all mutual understanding around the world individual thoughts that like here turn into a wife that will bring some color to it's typical in november. stay with us coming up next is world stories you're watching d.w. . county. coburg your concept discomfort with the banks. off to $100.00 is the ideals of the box and more relevant today than they were a. 100 years ago visionaries reshaped. people understood design as a way of shaping society. about
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a house and man that's cassella. with ideas that are our future sounds how a part of. me part documentary starts november 14th to tell you. i want out i want freedom we were treated like criminals dangerous criminals. i mean state security file is hundreds of pages thick yeah yeah it was here when this was east germany the speak security watched and harassed the 2 women because they wanted to leave for west germany. 30 years have passed since the berlin wall fell.
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what. does geissler mean anything to you. know just. what do you want to ring the bell. mr silas door and my god and then what do you think you'll have to talk i can't even remember him. or follow me long as they both have returned to the house in berlin where they once lived the ex neighbor still lives there but he's not home. for the 2 women find their way and. just look at this place through their looks a lot worse to silca than it does to me i don't think it's all that band was. i think it's pretty grubby. it's not charming. we had our window at the very top almost over the corner. all.
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shined and that looks like someone lived there now. when she lived here as a young woman how life was anything but private from the stairwell across the courtyard the east german state security watched her through a kitchen window. the tree was much smaller than. i was even busy did you see the stars the people standing there. i didn't know until i read it. we never would have guessed. that they were standing here. they read about it investigate the file among the hundreds of papers are intercepted letters private mail official correspondence lots of informants reports. even the ground pam of a loner can still cause apartment. on april 30th 1980 7 am convinced observation at residents of this flight was not in the kitchen
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and the window was half open. after 15 minutes the light went out saber left the apartment alone and proceeded on foot toward the summary to address the subway station. at 7 pm the subject was not in the apartment a match stick wedged into the door was still in the place mentioned. surveillance was there and it. was then that all of that and that. is in manhattan might leave someone was spying on my life and i had no idea. and they described me as a person from their point of view but it wasn't an especially friendly one. or. that left me with an unpleasant feeling. for years i wanted nothing to do with that i didn't even want to read it. as
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a start but i live with it absolutely and it's been my experience that you always get through better if you live with the circumstances. but not integrate it into your life take it along and don't let it get to you. that's the only way for listening. why were the 2 young women being watched. they had moved to east berlin from the countryside and found well paid jobs typist with noise and the official newspaper of the ruling socialist unity party ironic since they hardly toed the party line. who says i'm glad i don't have to work here anymore. it's worth the money and it's as if you're looking at another life this has had as if it almost had nothing to do with your own life now i mean it's so to me it's distant.
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it's not asked that was the 1st part or not to lift i'd seen in my life in the 1st time i jumped on i panicked about jumping off again i just asked because i thought it turned upside down at the top of the marketing head of the paper which still called itself socialist takes us around the building and down memory lane. and there was also musical where she killed herself and then i caught up in partial impersonal. yeah she hired me. fired up. using her maiden name spa and the loan is able decided to leave east germany they kept applying for exit visas if try flying back i doubt the credibility of the states now that i've had this the next period of how little human rights are respected in east germany that yes. dear mr hanukah all these absurdities involved
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in processing an application for an exit visa are giving me more and more doubts about the system. for word quickly got around to the newspaper. as expected coworkers so closely tied to the party line and the patients for what they saw as callous disloyalty. we had become invisible. nobody spoke to us anymore nobody greeted us we kept on working a little but we were treated like criminals dangerous criminals and that was pretty sad because we all got along very well before. we had not only worked together that partied together to have it. eventually they were both fired from noise and their future prospects were looking bad not just professionally. desponding been really spawn say but still living in the noise and apartment the personnel department has told them to vacate the apartment as quickly
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as possible and look for work as the living space is urgently needed by the noise and ring and printer to it. in fact they threaten to forcibly evict us on it and we threaten to bring in a west german camera team for them so nothing happened. often passive the next. but this is this is it oh no end of horrors. that was here yeah that was here. but the system hit back and this official building. yes it was really terrible here the 2 women were summoned here again and again for interrogation nothing i was. sorry he got a bad physical feeling but no memory just a bad physical feeling. we all i'm getting butterflies in my stomach yeah yes not good not good at all god. eventually the interrogation
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stopped. today this is a home this administration told. him it would be ministers of course it was down there by the next seating area at least that's the feeling i have. was and that's what kind of feeling is that kind of not good. no not a good one not fun at all. not a good feeling once you do you want to go there. and you know i feel queasy somehow . and yes let's go there. it's like you have to return to the scene of the horror. but i feel really awful physically really awful i could just start crying or. think go ahead and. and. i think it was down men not at the same. thing i'm pretty sure here.
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i'm sure to you. today they see the interrogations it's extremely degrading. and goes all the way they greeted you was like yeah i can see right off that they're tramp's and in such a nasty tone of voice. that all the manner of the 2 applicants was insolent demanding and very arrogant. in mark the islands. you always had this fear that you couldn't go home and. because you'd be taken to prison that's how menacing it felt to us look at all here so important for the so it was like watch out it's enough just across the street wrongly where everywhere such a massive travels. very member very well the names of the stars the office is. called. friends would you like to meet them again and i know. that that is
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not. absolutely not. of the analysts like and of course i wouldn't be able to hide how much i despise them and when i despise someone i don't want to have anything to do with them. these events took place over 30 years ago. now the stasi records agency has provided access to their files. for the 1st time the 2 women have talked to the younger generation about why the rift that we thing to get out to be struck me. is doable i wanted out i didn't want anyone dictating that i live here even if it was socially equitable but we didn't want that and that's hainje brave enough to go ahead and act on it what is doesn't just wish to some of us most doesn't even know
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i'm for also common was the fact that i couldn't get out that i could only go to a few countries that i was allowed to visit i just couldn't accept that i couldn't accept the way things were missed on me and so i thought no i want out i want freedom laws which meant if i had. desire for freedom almost landed her in prison but she found work and protection in a church community. my muses. about 9 months later i was through the application. because i married the pastor who lived in prague. but the pastor could only marry one of you right. then have your belief and then i wondered if there weren't other ways. i thought about marrying of all gary and citizen and emigrating through bug area. but then i realized that my
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nerves and my strength were totally shot. and we weren't living together anymore. so we couldn't support one another. i'm not sure if that was the reason but i just didn't have the strength. both of them withdrew their final occupation the start of the 80s. had a baby and unexpectedly got permission to leave for the west. as the pastas wife zuko fall was also allowed to go. on what we've been through an experience but it's this somehow paid off the safety clinton playing the fiddle player plus my dream as a teenager was to see the world now i fulfilled it. took. place.
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although some of the 7 percent. to stop. the south. africa's population is rapidly growing. at least is causing a lot of problems right. that's the core issue. i wonder what do you think. next. looks like you wrote it. to keep mastodons. and he read it looks as. though there were 9989. the story behind one of the most remarkable days in recent german history plays schabowski is known as the night the wall came down the end please play. play take it personally.
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with a little wonderful people and stories that make the game so special. for all true fan. blade more than football. a low and a warm welcome to a brand new edition of the 77 percent the show that explores what matters for africa's young majority i'm your host wendy camorra thanks for joining me today. in today's program we'll be looking at the population in nigeria as ours.

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