Skip to main content

tv   Reporter  Deutsche Welle  November 2, 2019 7:15pm-7:31pm CET

7:15 pm
remote venice going the trick bramer braman drew to wall after a late to freiburg old the building dobby is on at the moment and there are 2 games on sunday this is state of victoria up next a reporter with a look at the 2 women talked by east germany security service the stasi i'll be back at the top off the alley in the meantime of course there's always the web site b w dot com for the good. news . for the show that of us are. the dinosaurs. in support. of all. the debris of books. take
7:16 pm
a trip on us go christmas market hopping with v.w. and cologne and couldn't walk up to tell by their fare and hotel are included for you and a guest. just tell us which term instinct is your favorite. what's the most beautiful place in germany. what would you like to explore most to enter check in at g.w. dot com slash travel good luck and enjoy some. littles i went out i want freedom we were treated like criminals dangerous criminals. zuko all files on the lawn of the state security file is hundreds of pages thick. yeah yeah it was here when this was east germany the state security watch the rest the 2 women because they wanted to leave for west germany. 30 years have passed
7:17 pm
since the berlin wall fell. what. does geissler mean anything to you. know just sila what do you want to ring the bell i love. mr silas door and my god and then what do you think you'll have to talk i can't even remember him. and he long as they both have returned to the house in berlin where they once lived the ex neighbor still lives there but he's not home. for the 2 women find their way and if you just look at this place. looks a lot less to silca than it does to me i don't think it's all that and it's nice and i think it's pretty grubby. it's not charming.
7:18 pm
we had our window at the very top almost over the corner. all. shined and i looks like someone lived there now. when she lived here as a young woman how life was anything but private from the stairwell across the courtyard the east german state security watched her through a kitchen window. the tree was much smaller than. i was even dizzy did you see the stars the people standing there. i didn't know until i read it. that we never would have guessed. that they were standing here. like they read about it invest all the file among the hundreds of papers are intercepted letters private mail official correspondence lots of informants reports. even the ground plan of the loan
7:19 pm
a can still cause apartment. so on april 30th 1980 7 am commenced observation at residents this light was on in the kitchen and the window was half open so after 15 minutes the light went out saber left the apartment alone and proceeded on foot toward the summary to address a subway station. or noise at 7 pm the subject was not in the apartment a match stick wedged into the door was still in the place mentioned. surveillance was then ended but then the control of all that and that. is a month had been my only someone was spying on my life and i had no idea. in they describe me as a person from their point of view so it wasn't an especially friendly one. pointless or. that left me with an unpleasant feeling. for years i wanted nothing
7:20 pm
to do with that i didn't even want to read it. as a start but i live with it absolutely it's been my experience that you always get through better if you live with the circumstances. but not integrated into your life take it along and don't let it get to you. that's the only way for this thing. why were the 2 young women being watched. so they had moved to east berlin from the countryside and found well paid jobs typist with noise and the official newspaper of the ruling socialist unity party ironic since they hardly told the party line. i'm glad i don't have to work here anymore this is so. it's worth the money it's as
7:21 pm
if you're looking at another life this has had as if it almost had nothing to do with your own life now i mean it's true it's distant you know i'm. a smart ass so that was the 1st part or not to lift i'd seen in my life and the 1st time i jumped on i panicked about jumping off again just because i thought it turned upside down at the top of the marketing head of the paper which still called itself socialist takes us around the building and down memory lane. and there was also mizuki which she killed herself and then i caught up in partial impersonal. yeah she hired me for. and fired. using her maiden. and the loan as they decided to leave east germany they kept applying for exit visas if try flying back i doubt the credibility of the states
7:22 pm
now that i've had this experience of how little human rights are respected in east germany that. dear mr hanukah all these absurdities involved in processing an application for an exit visa are giving me more and more doubts about the system the students were for would quickly got around to the newspaper. as expected coworkers so closely tied to the party line and the patients for what they saw as callous disloyalty. we had become invisible. nobody spoke to us anymore nobody greeted us we kept on working a little but we were treated like criminals dangerous criminals and that was pretty sad because we all got along very well before. we had not only worked together that partied together to. the fire. eventually they were both fired from noise and their future prospects were looking bad and not just
7:23 pm
professionally. desponding deliberately spahn say but still living in the noise department the personnel department has told them to vacate the apartment as quickly as possible and look for work as the living space is urgently needed by the noise and playing and printer to it. in fact they threaten to forcibly evict us on it and we threaten to bring in a west german camera team for them so nothing happened. off and party of the next. but this is this is it oh no end of horrors. that was here yeah that was here. but the system hit back in this official building. yes it was really terrible here the 2 women were summoned here again and again for interrogation and nothing i was . got a very physical feeling but no memory just a bad physical feeling like. we all i'm getting butterflies in my stomach
7:24 pm
yeah yes not good not good at all. eventually the interrogation stopped. today this is a homeless administration building. would be ministers it's called it was down there by the next seating area at least that's the feeling i have. was and that's what kind of feeling is that kind of not good. no not a good one not fun at all. not a good feeling why do you want to go there and you know i feel queasy somehow. and yes let's go there and i was like you have to return to the scene of the horror . but i feel really awful physically really awful i could just start crying or. think go ahead and. i think it was down men
7:25 pm
not at the same. thing i'm pretty sure here. i'm sure to. today they see the interrogations at the extremely degrading. the way they greeted you was like yeah i can see right off that they're tramps and in such a nasty tone of voice. that all the manner of the 2 applicants was insolent demanding and very arrogant. in mark the islands. you always have this fear that you couldn't go mine now because you'd be taken to prison that's how menacing it felt to us look at all of us all important. so it was like what cheryl it's enough just across the street wrongly we are everywhere such
7:26 pm
a massive threat it's. very member very well the names of the stasi offices. called. friends would you like to meet them again no land. mine that i know. absolutely not. off the island like and of course i wouldn't be able to hide how much i despise them and when i despise someone i don't want to have anything to do with and. these events took place over 30 years ago. now the stasi records agency has provided access to their files. for the 1st time the 2 women have talked to the younger generation about why they risked everything to get out to be stormy. it's doable i wanted out i didn't want anyone dictating that i live here even if it
7:27 pm
was socially equitable but we didn't want that and at that age you're brave enough to go ahead and act on it it is the smoothest least as much as most doesn't even know i'm for the last common the fact that i couldn't get out that i could only go to a few countries that i was allowed to visit i just couldn't accept that i couldn't accept the way things were missed i mean and so i thought no i want out i want freedom of course is that if i had all fall desire for freedom almost landed her in prison but she found work and protection in a church community. by muses. about 9 months later i was through the application. because i married the pastor who lived in prague. but the pastor could only marry one of you right. then have your belief
7:28 pm
and then i wondered if there weren't other ways. i thought about marrying about gary and citizen and emigrating from bulgaria. but then i realized that my nerves and my strength were totally shot. and we weren't living together anymore. so we couldn't support one another. i'm not sure if that was the reason but i just didn't have the strength. both of them withdrew their final applications at the start of the 80s. had a baby and then expected lee got permission to leave for the west. as a pastor's wife zuko all fall was also allowed to go but what we been through an experienced it's they somehow paid off the safety and play the fiddle player plus my dream as a teenager was to see the world now i fulfilled it. for
7:29 pm
fun playing. played takes it personally it's a wonderful people and stories that made the game so special. it . was. playing league players but the. next d.w.i. . formatting ozzy's every goal is absolutely the right should suck it means and columnists who play many people in afghanistan think it's wrong for women to do schools trying to stuff the. bottom of the net continues to coach against teams not to touch it here on the
7:30 pm
flight tests 45 minutes on d w. welcome to the what is the game here want to. talk about. that's no. one. would football be without people like him robert love and dusky is the bundles
7:31 pm
latest best striker he put a white 13 goals in his 1st 9 matches.

42 Views

info Stream Only

Uploaded by TV Archive on