tv Reporter Deutsche Welle November 3, 2019 2:15am-2:31am CET
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guest. just tell us which german street is your favorite. what's the most beautiful place in germany. what would you like to explore most treasured check in at d w dot com slash travel good luck and enjoy the summer. spittles i went out i want freedom we were treated like criminals dangerous criminals. zuko all files me alone of the state security file is hundreds of pages thick. yeah yeah it was here when this was east germany the state security watch the rest the 2 women because they wanted to leave for west germany. 30 years have passed since the berlin wall fell.
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what. does geissler mean anything to you. know just sila what do you want to ring the bell. mr silas door and my god and then what do you say you'll have to talk i can't even remember him. and he long as they both have returned to the house in berlin where they once lived the ex neighbor still lives there but he's not home. for the 2 women find their way in. just look at this place through looks a lot worse to silca than it does to me i don't think it's all that bad just now and i think it's pretty grubby. it's not charming. we had our window at the very top almost over the corner. oh.
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and i looks like someone lived there now. when she lived here as a young woman how life was anything but private from the stairwell across the courtyard the east german state security watched her through a kitchen window. the tree was much snow then. i was even dizzy did you see the stars the people standing there. i didn't know until i read it. that we never would have guessed. that they were standing him. like they read about it invest all the file among the hundreds of papers are intercepted letters private mail official correspondence lots of informants reports even the ground down below in a can still cause apartment. so an april 30th 1980 7 am commenced observation at residents light was on in the kitchen and the
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window was half open so after 15 minutes the light went out saber left the apartment alone and proceeded on foot toward the summary to address the subway station. or noise at 7 pm the subject was not in the apartment a match stick wedged into the door was still in the place mentioned. surveillance was there and it but then that all over that it. is a month had been my only someone was spying on my life and i had no idea on. him they describe me as a person from their point of view but it wasn't an especially friendly one. that left me with an unpleasant feeling. for years i wanted nothing to do with it i didn't even want to read it. as
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a start but i live with it absolutely it's been my experience that you always get through better if you live with the circumstances. but not integrated into your life take it along and don't let it get to you and. that's the only way for lists. like why were the 2 young women being watched. so they had moved to east berlin from the countryside and found well paid jobs typist with noise and deficient newspaper of the ruling socialist unity party ironic since they hardly told the party line. i'm glad i don't have to work here any more so. it's worth the money and it's as if you're looking at another life this has had as if it almost had nothing to do with your own life now i'm yet to tell you it's distant. a smart ass
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that was the 1st part of nostra lift i'd seen in my life and the 1st time i jumped on i panicked about jumping off again just because i thought it turned upside down at the top of the marketing head of the paper which still called itself socialist takes us around the building and down memory lane. 20th and there was also mizuki oh but she killed herself and then i caught up in partial impersonal. yeah she hired me. and fired up. using her maiden name spa and the loan of a but decided to leave east germany they kept applying for exit visas if it's lifeline they can i doubt the credibility of the states now that i've had this the next period of how little human rights are respected in east germany that . dear mr hanukah all these absurdities involved in processing an application for
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an exit visa are giving me more and more doubts about the system why from word quickly got around to the newspaper. as expected coworkers so closely tied to the party line and the patients for what they saw as callous disloyalty. we had become invisible. nobody spoke to us anymore nobody greeted us we kept on working a little but we were treated like criminals dangerous criminals and that was pretty sad because we all got along very well before. we had not only worked together that partied together to. the fire. eventually they were both fired from noise and their future prospects were looking bad not just professionally. desponding can really spawn say but still living in the noir starshine department the personnel department has told them to vacate the apartment
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as quickly as possible and look for work as the living space is urgently needed by the noise and. printer to fit. in fact they threaten to forcibly evict us on it and we threaten to bring in a west german camera team for them so nothing happened. often passive the next. but this is this is it oh no end of horrors. that was here yeah that was here. but the system hit back and this official building. had to yes it was really terrible here the 2 women were summoned here again and again for interrogation and nothing i was. god we got a very physical feeling but no memory just a bad physical feeling like. we all i'm getting butterflies in my stomach yeah yes not good not good at all which got. eventually the interrogation
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stopped. today this is a homeless administration. would be ministers it's called it was down there by the next seating area at least that's the feeling i have. was and that's what kind of feeling is that kind of not good. no not a good one not fun at all. not a good feeling once a day you want to go there and you know i feel queasy somehow. and yes let's go there. you have to return to the scene of the horror. but i feel really awful physically really awful i could just start crying or. think go ahead and. and. i think it was down there not at the same. thing i'm pretty sure here.
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i'm sure to. today they see the interrogations i think streaming degrading. because all the way they greeted you was like yeah i can see right off that they're tramp's and in such a nasty tone of voice. that all the manner of the 2 applicants was insolence demanding and very arrogant. in mark the islands. you always have this fear that you couldn't go mine. because you'd be taken to prison that's how menacing it felt to us to look at all here with us all important for so it was like what cheryl it's enough just across the street wrongly where everywhere such a massive travels but. very member very well the names of the stars the office is. called. friends would you like to meet them again night no man.
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no. absolutely not they're off to all of that and of course i wouldn't be able to hide how much i despise them and when i despise someone i don't want to have anything to do with them. these events took place over 30 years ago. now the stasi record states and feels provided access to their files. for the 1st time the 2 women have talked to the younger generation about why they risked everything to get out to the east germany. is still i wanted out i didn't want anyone dictating that i live here even if it was socially equitable but we didn't want that and that's hainje brave enough to go ahead and act on it so what does doesn't just wish to some of us most doesn't even
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know him for the most common the fact that i couldn't get out that i could only go to a few countries that i was allowed to visit i just couldn't accept that i couldn't accept the way things were missed i mean me and so i thought no i want out i want freedom laws even if i had. desire for freedom almost landed her in prison but she found work and protection in a church community. muses. about 9 months later i was through the application just. because i married the pastor who lived in prague. but the pastor could only marry one of you right. then have your belief and then i wondered if they weren't other ways. i thought about marrying of all garion citizen and emigrating from bulgaria. but then i realized that my
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nerves and my strength were totally shot. and we weren't living together anymore. so we couldn't support one another. i'm not sure if that was the reason was i just didn't have the strength. both of them withdrew their friend not the case in the start of the eighty's. had a baby and unexpectedly got permission to leave for the west. as the pastas wife zuko fall was also allowed to go. on what we've been through an experienced gets there somehow it all paid off the safe and. it was my dream as a teenager was to see the world now i fulfilled it. for.
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