tv Reporter Deutsche Welle November 4, 2019 1:15am-1:31am CET
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you know my grandchildren were born after the wall fell born in every. 3 generations one family on a journey through a recent german history. starts number 60 on d. w. . i went out i want freedom we were treated like criminals dangerous criminals. state security file is hundreds of pages thick. you know it was here when this was east germany the state security watch tonight arrest the 2 women because they wanted to leave for west germany. 30 years have passed since the berlin wall fell.
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what. does geissler mean anything to you. know just. what do you want to ring the bell i love you. mr silas door and my god and then what do you say you'll have to talk i can't even remember him. or follow any loan as they both have returned to the house in berlin where they once lived the x. neighbor still lives there but he's not home. for the 2 women find their way and. just look at this place through looks a lot less to silca than it does to me i don't think it's all that bad since. i think it's pretty grubby. it's not charming. we had our window at the very top almost over the corner. all. right
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and that looks like someone lived there now. when she lived here as a young woman her life was anything but private from the stairwell across the courtyard the east german state security watched her through a kitchen window. the tree was much smaller then. i was even dizzy did you see the stars the people standing there. i didn't know until i read it. that we never would have guessed. that they were standing him. like they read about it invest all the file among the hundreds of papers are intercepted letters private mail official correspondence lots of informants report even the ground plan of the loan and still cause apartment. so an april 30th 1980
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7 am commenced observation at residents of this light was on in the kitchen and the window was half open so after 50 minutes the light went out saber left the apartment alone and proceeded on foot toward the summary to address the subway station. or noise at 7 pm the subject was not in the apartment a match stick wedged into the door was still in the place mentioned. surveillance was then ended but then that all of that and that. is a month had been my only someone was spying on my life and i had no idea on. him they describe me as a person from their point of view but it wasn't an especially friendly one. that left me with an unpleasant feeling. for years i wanted nothing to do with that i didn't even want to read it. as
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a start but i live with it absolutely it's been my experience that you always get through better if you live with the circumstances. but not integrate it into your life take it along and don't let it get to you. that's the only way to listen. why were the 2 young women being watched. so they had moved to east berlin from the countryside and found well paid jobs typist with noise and the official newspaper of the ruling socialist unity party ironic since they hardly told the party line. i'm glad i don't have to work here anymore this is so. it's worth the money it's as if you're looking at another life this has had as if it almost had nothing to do with your own life now i'm yet to tell you it's distant you know i'm.
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a smart ass that was the 1st part of nostre lift i'd seen in my life and the 1st time i jumped on i panicked about jumping off again just because i thought it turned upside down at the top of the marketing head of the paper which still called itself socialist takes us around the building and down memory lane. 20th and there was also musical but she killed herself and then i caught up in partial impersonal. yeah she hired me. and fired. zuko using her maiden. and the loan of a but decided to leave east germany they kept applying for exit visas if try flying back i doubt the credibility of the states now that i've had this little experiment of how little human rights are respected in east germany that.
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dear mr hanukah all these absurdities involved in processing an application for an exit visa are giving me more and more doubts about the system. for word quickly got around to the newspaper. as expected coworkers so closely tied to the party line and the patients for what they saw as callous disloyalty. we had become invisible. nobody spoke to us anymore nobody greeted us we kept on working a little but we were treated like criminals dangerous criminals and that was pretty sad because we all got along very well before. we had not only worked together that partied together to. the fire. eventually they were both fired from noise and their future prospects were looking bad not just professionally. desponding deliberately spawn say but still living in the noise department the personnel department has told them to vacate the apartment as
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quickly as possible and look for work as the living space is urgently needed by the noise and. printer to it. in fact they threaten to forcibly evict us on it and we threaten to bring in a west german camera team for them so nothing happened. off and party at the next. but this is this is it oh no end of horrors. that was here yeah that was here. but the system hit back and this official building. had to yes it was really terrible here the 2 women were summoned here again and again for interrogation and nothing i was. how he got a bad physical feeling but no memory just a bad physical feeling like. i'm getting butterflies in my stomach yeah yes not good not good at all god. eventually the interrogation
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stopped. today this is a homeless administration. would be ministers it's called it was down there by the next seating area at least that's the feeling i have. was and that's what kind of feeling is that kind of not good. no not a good one not fun at all. not a good feeling once you don't want to go there and you know if you queasy somehow. yes let's go there and i was like you have to return to the scene of the horror. but i feel really awful physically really awful i could just start crying or. think go ahead and. i think it was down there not at the same. and i'm pretty sure here.
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i'm sure to. today they see the interrogations at the extremely degrading. because all the way they greeted you was like yeah i can see right off that they're tramps and in such a nasty tone of voice. that all the manner of the 2 applicants was insolent demanding and very arrogant. in mark the un's. you always had this fear that you couldn't go mine. because you'd be taken to prison that's how menacing it felt to us look at all here important one of the summit was like what cheryl it's enough just across the street wrongly we were everywhere such a massive threat it's. very member very well the names of the stars the office is. called. friends would you like to meet them again no. man and i
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know. absolutely not. and of course i wouldn't be able to hide how much i despise them and when i despise someone i don't want to have anything to do with them. these events took place over 30 years ago. this month now the stasi records agency is providing access to their files. for the 1st time the 2 women have talked to the younger generation about why the rift that we thing to get out to be struck me. is doable i wanted out i didn't want anyone dictating that i live here even if it was socially equitable but we didn't want that and at that age you're brave enough to go ahead and act on it what does this mean does this to some of us most doesn't
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even know i'm for the most common the fact that i couldn't get out that i could only go to a few countries that i was allowed to visit i just couldn't accept that i couldn't accept the way things were missed i mean and so i thought no i want out i want freedom laws which meant if i had. desire for freedom almost landed her in prison but she found work and protection in a church community. by muses. about 9 months later i was through the application just. because i married the pastor who lived in prague. but the pastor could only marry one of you right. then have your belief and then i wondered if there weren't other ways. i thought about marrying of all garion citizen and emigrating through bug area. but then i realized that my
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nerves and my strength were totally shot. and we weren't living together anymore. so we couldn't support one another. i'm not sure if that was the reason but i just didn't have the strength. both of them withdrew their final occupation the start of the 18th. had a baby and unexpectedly got permission to leave for the west. as a pastor's wife. was also allowed to go. to stand what we been through an experienced gets there somehow it all paid off this evening and. the final. it was my dream as a teenager was to see the world now i fulfilled it. climate
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