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welcome to the what is the here. to talk about. free that's no. joke. once this is a hot it was the night when the seemingly inconceivable became reality the fall of the berlin wall 25 years later these events were recreated on a film set of bornholmer strasse including the emotions that overcame many east german citizens as they mastered the wall that night their anger hope and determination. and hans you're going
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legler were also at the wall on the night of november 9th 1989 today their guests on the film said. this was sponsored it's amazing to watch 25 years later. i am i was. i can hunch you're going legler live to what was then communist east berlin for them the film set is like a journey back in time to the moment in which their lives and the country they lived in changed forever. they switched it's a very emotional moment for me watching this right now even though of course it's just a movie. catron caught 2nd hons martin fleischer 1st met
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each other on bornholmer bridge that night. she lived in the east and he lived in the west of the divided city. listen closely with the people started shit makes me start to choke up i feel like i want to join in but have. an amazing moment it's like a journey back in time to this sink. credible moment in history absolutely. for catron and hans martin that chance meeting on the bridge sent their lives in a different direction. yes to lived in west berlin filk a family in the east for years they were separated by a wall but they kept their friendship a lot. on the morning of november 9th 1909 the wall still seemed a fact of life impervious man i'm yielding. a
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moving van was underway in the east berlin district of france lower back. it was headed to the villages apartment. the movers were there to pick up the bill because belongings after 3 years of waiting for their application to leave that used her money for the west had been approved. they were due to leave on nov 13th 1809. q so we don't really put out a few boxes of the things we were going to be allowed to take with us and transport them to need the movers came in early in the morning of november 9th to our apartment to take them to look at his apartment when so it's the room if it. looks yes good lift on kaiser doc in west berlin. he's often.
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in funk in them and my father was here when the movers came out when i got home from work coming our apartment in the company in the back the full of moving boxes for the belonging to the vehicle family thought. going into feel good family had been friends for years they went on holiday together in hungary. 4 days later they were planning to see each other again in west. for their son johan of the upcoming . but i'm also a bit scary. don wouldn't know and up she plans a guy past here with cake and some sweets at his day and his arm and. also we couldn't take all of his toys so exhausted the months and told him we could only keep the things that were the most important to him because we told him we'd bring the rest of his toys to his friends a daycare. for the
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family leaving communist east germany meant that they would leave everything behind their families their friends and their old way of life. the small. oh he thought it wasn't easy. we had many high months thinking we'd never be able to go home where we've grown up and visit everyone. i missed in his post you didn't know what the regime would do. we had that people who left would never allowed back to visit. but that night everything changed. 25 years later in the dressing room of a film set up 500 people gathered to recount those events in a made for t.v.
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movie called bornholmer strasse it. for high care and hans you're going legler the visit to the film set in the us like a journey into the southeast you can forget because of. the inside the couple were engineers at a state owned signaling technology company. nov 9th 1989 was a thursday a workday like any other for the young couple. raising our children almost gemini we had what we had everything we needed if you went. you have to remember my husband and i we were an ordinary family going about our daily life. we lived an ordinary life every didn't call attention to ourselves. so.
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the family lived on the 11th floor of a prefab high rise in the east berlin they had plans for the evening. as they had it was my birthday so we'd send the children to the grandparents so that my husband and i could spend the evening together. and then we would stop but . before we went to a restaurant called still paul with reservations we made 6 months earlier on the shoot as maybe we had a nice meal in the holes and drove home planning to spend the rest of the evening together celebrating my wife's birthday. why it would stop all begin with and the t.v. was on and then came schabowski press conference was a conference with. police district offices in east germany are instructed to issue travel pieces without delay. karen and frank who had been planning on leaving 2 days later read a goodbye party with the neighbors and the t.v.
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was on the month or so far as i know it takes effect immediately and. i trust i didn't really understand what was happening. in west berlin but yes go build his friend was also watching the news on t.v. . according to the east german politburo like a show gunter schabowski with east germans will be permitted to leave the country. maturely shukman of course i immediately thought can this be true. what's going to happen. and then a few minutes later the phone rang and it was frank calling me. i said to him let's did you hear that he said yes let's go and meet at almost cost under the new font but then my husband said look what if the boat is about to open one coming to get you and we'll go get out things together and i'll get you on a stress test i'll be back in a moment if my life put on my tennis shoes and ran to 700 metres.
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it's been you know it was there when i got in my car and i headed over there driving a bit faster than allowed probably on my way to bornholm a bridge. that when that announcement on television we wanted to see if we could actually do it. this man is an effective means of some kind. at 9 that evening the checkpoint behind bornholmer bridge was closed as always. in west berlin a protest march. was drawing to a close on the car 1st of all of our. demonstrators did not want the official shop closing times to be extended. in east berlin the 1st handful of people were beginning to head to the border one was our own right arm ski a photographer who had been secretly documenting events. was
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i the film said he recalled the events of that evening. he comes on and we arrived at borno mistrusts around 9 in the evening when he was standing behind him a store i've seen for what 1015 maybe 20 people we were practically the 1st to arrive and it was a pretty tense situation on the guns underspent as it would suit is if you can see the border guards were aggressive they realised something was going to have some form of the arab response to so quickly realised that something unusual was about to happen was behind them they kept shouting and asking whether it was true that we'd be able to travel over to west berlin that night with these german id cards but after all that's what she said on t.v. that's how we understood it in any case. you would. protest at the checkpoint was gathering force. was.
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i didn't have. one thought in any other crowd had gathered and i pushed my way through to the gate had gone how much to go on the ball and everyone has their guns you were going forward they were fired up and they wanted to cross the border people would fence a force you and the law from filk i was right at the front and was captured on film by a television crew. was was am moment that was also captured in the movie. know i was very excited and thought this can't be happening we were all standing there and the border police didn't know what to do and. we saw that they were on the phone talking. to you then a police car arrived you know and communism puts a bar. every democrat for the sake of public order and
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safety. we ask you to leave the area in front of the checkpoint and to apply at the proper registration office. yeah right. right. we cannot authorize travel permits here at this moment. i must advise on this is complete nonsense i could have stayed at home this is utter bull loney they don't know what they're doing that kind of awesome didn't see the irony. meanwhile the t.v. report had brought high care and i'm certain late bloomers birthday celebration to an abrupt close. to it still gives me goose bumps at that moment we just said nothing. will be abided. because after we got to have you think i'm sick and we went to the hallway and put on our coats and once he happened to know. we got in the car and sped towards bornholmer bridge which was
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the closest border crossing on 2 of them i climbed up onto a trash can and took a few pictures and before it was quite something. felice bond. fans you're still has those photos. in the movie the recreate shows the crowd was still calling for the checkpoint to be open. users but he did i still remember the chanting well from mindful and looking back but i'm impressed by how peaceful it was that there was no violence even if no one threw a bottle or stoned which could easily have happened it was completely peaceful foolish . foolish wheatley's the film also recalls those moments. as and then when the one of them for the me a little more and more people kept going up and saying look here's my id i want to come across now after
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a while they're not physically mount and said anyone who wants to cross the street to do so i was standing at the gate and i said well then open the gate and then it actually opened and i just stood there some i was right at the front so what could i do but overflow of a pretty by guess i'm going to give even if most of them pretty old to stay in her hands you're going to like her witnessed the events while standing on top of the trash can. on zoe and i saw one person pass the border checkpoint with a. gun is it felt like it was just a few seconds later down the food just a few seconds and one more person walk through wish and then another and another. and gave them our id cards. and they stomped them. and they told us to continue that. house. and this is the view i was a bit but the legs about the stem you wouldn't because they didn't put it on the regular spot him always was and i think stunted by 2 not photos of kids and later i
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found out that meant we'd had a german citizenship revoked i think. it later emerged that the border official allowed a few people to pass hoping to defuse the situation. but more and more people began to managing to cross at 11 30 pm the border official opened the gate in order to try to end the standoff peacefully ah ah ah. ah ah ah ah ah ah ah ah ah ah ah ah ah ah ah ah ah ah ah ah ah ah. hey you got the officer came and had the barrier opened. and suddenly we could just pass through your phone and i was at the front right by the barrier and just sprinted across the bridge with you. on the western side of the bridge where frank's friend looks was waiting the crowd also began to move forward. quickly i started running to the
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bridge and frank was running towards me and we met somewhere in the last 3rd i think it was with. wings but that was it i held up my identity card and it was caught on video come on i had been waiting 3 and a half years. that was how long from phil can i have waited for permission to live in freedom from one moment to the next it had become a reality for all east germans. chaps and it's because i said to look i'm going to fetch my wife and our son your highness and i'll be right back into the community but if you don't. well from filk a headed back to his family the leg lawyers and their friends ended up in front of a t.v. crew. on impulse suddenly there was a bright light and a microphone appeared and we were asked a question. my friend was so overcome with emotion he couldn't even get
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a word out. of all this to believe me. when we saw on t.v. that we could cross without a permit we got up from our birthday party and would hop in the car with the both of us wonder what he got to do we want to look around set foot in west berlin. and all i'm going to go back was well yes we'll go back. but not everyone was in a party mood that evening including contra who worked as a lab technician. and if it's not identified pretty strongly with east germany it was my home no question kind of help me and i felt a strong commitment to it i had everything i needed really just the few. seconds left on bornholmer strawson and followed a line of cars to the checkpoint. on the western side of a student from west berlin arrived at the bridge in
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a party and friends brought him along. martin fleischer climbed onto a pillar of the bridge and watched what was happening. in this that's when masses of people started streaming over it was an incredible atmosphere by then at the very latest it is and it had become clear that this was just an unbelievable historic moment in his eyes to wish on the. man he decided to walk over into east berlin for the very 1st time for him it was a world that every bit as strange as the west seemed to contradict. i just stood there and watched the new study i wouldn't have the courage to cross if someone hadn't spoken to me. you know devoted at the start he suddenly appeared and sat down next to me and asked me well where you're from. i said well here from
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the east. and he said i'm from the west. comes once we started talking and i asked her if she'd ever been to the west. he said i said i'm a bit afraid i don't really understand what's going on here pussy it was. it was a chance meeting made possible by the events of just a few hours. i said look everyone's walking back and forth camille i'm from the west you know and i don't even have an idea on me he had a kind of i didn't have any connection to west germany he does have some i was thinking i'd prefer to stay here in my warm cozy nest arms but hans martin was relaxed it was no big deal he had nothing to be afraid of. and he sort of
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pulled me along with him or not mr mix could see. by then frank had returned to the empty apartment he and his family were due to leave east germany officially in a couple of days but he did not want to wait the situation seemed too unsettled. plus it was about midnight when frank returned and he had managed to hire a taxi driver about offering him last $100.00 east german mark bell. you know mark pushed the horn and. i grabbed my wife my son and our suitcases and we got in the taxi and drove the few 100 meters to the border and wouldn't understand now if i'm out of the offices in uniform looked at us probably wondering what we were up to. i thought they wouldn't let us pass on this we were the only ones with a suitcase and a child. and then one of the border guards i guess i've given him
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a questioning look on said to me that direction go that way oh. my god incredible i can't believe it. well after midnight but yes go welcome karen and your hardest to look at. i put them in the car with their suitcases to food and look said come on let's drive along the could but it was so packed that we were hardly moving. if i don't have a basically stuck in traffic the. once you know they were lots and lots of cars people were getting out of things cheering with the. head around 1 in the morning the 1st in dom in west berlin turned into a giant euphoric party location vying for it was amazing and a feeling of total joy from. contra and from his berlin and hans martin from the west had also crossed the border that no longer existed.
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on his lines it's going to be something to them oh it was really funny everywhere we went people asked us where were you from the east of the west and he was just this wonderful at has been tarnished and adventure. so didn't type of it at least as much when we went on a sightseeing tour of west berlin. yet i had my car i think we went to the brandenburg gate 1st one but were told if i. was there thousands of people were dancing on top of the wall. of one of the gates and we drove around and just bask in it all soaked it all up to. us to say it was really a magical moment as momentous. was the legless had their final toast to hike his birthday on the 1st and. the top fall of the cold that's what
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happened with our plan to celebrate her birthday with just the 2 of us never materialized 'd i think we got home and to bed sometime around 4 in the morning. but the next day at 10 minutes to 7 we were back at work a full months and all the. country and then hans martin were out past dawn soaking up the moment. you have to shop leave it we exchanged addresses and phone numbers and make plans to meet up with monday then we just figured well let's see what the future brings. contra manhunts martin fell in love and stayed together for 5 years which she showed him in eastern germany and he helped her find her footing in what for her was a new world. for hiking and cons you're going to take lower house for all these german citizens the next years brought many challenges but they tune
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found their footing. and they still take pride and now today. i think we have to keep talking about it and remembering how peaceful it was and no one lost their life. complex and that's the most important message we need to remember about the fall of the wall in 1909 was so the lot of. this it's i think both sides have a hard time imagining it could have turned into a bloodbath you know we were incredibly lucky that no one accidentally fired a shot that. it's a stroke of good fortune for german history that that didn't happen it's just a good option just doesn't see. the wall dividing east and west berlin which would seem so permanent so impressionable was toppled overnight. for 30 years
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because we couldn't really believe it it was unthinkable it wasn't a realistic idea that the border could just fall from one day to the next. but we were in a movie that moves me to remember that we were a small part of that history into these are. just yvonne. just made up by the city like leave it there we saw it happen live it changed our lives in so many ways that's something i'll never forget but with. the 2 families yes because in the philco. yes remained friends through the turbulent years that followed german reunification. sometimes they go back to bornholmer bridge to remember how they gathered there with thousands of others on nov 9th 1989. today the bridge that once separated east and west berlin is just a normal city like in
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