this is the interview news live from the lead up next our documentary series looks at a group of women in pakistan breaking free of beautiful prescriptions they're training to be about. i'm dr thomas for the entire state thanks a lot. in charge of the famous naturalist and explorer. truce in the bridge alex on the phone it's 250th birthday we're remarking on a voyage of discovery. expedition voyage on t.w.a. .

and. this is the village of shame shall located in a remote region of northeastern pakistan close to the border with china high up in the karakoram mountains. the village is home to about 2000 people who raise farm animals and crops living in shame shell isn't easy at an elevation of 3100 metres nature is harsh. in the 1st gravel road here wasn't completed until 2014 before that residents had had to walk for 3 days to reach the next village. on the karakoram highway. here men and women share daily chores. but no hafiz or is 21 years old. isn't that important to

a week. and. so i love how it goes like that since i got married i thought living with my husband and his family 2nd set was the point i work around the house and also out in the fields. at home it's me that does the cooking question of the fly i also look after the children and take them to school or not remains and i judge the washing and cleaning and all of those chores on my duty to set. the scarf well especially. shine adults and 5 children live in this house. the local school was only recently set up she. says fenty tourism with. manu finished the 10th grade an unusual achievement in pakistan where almost 2 thirds of women cannot read or write she says.

a man met him by me now let me i knew and her husband are recruiting irrigation ditches it hardly rains at all in this region during the summer so melt water from the nearby glaciers needs to be directed with ditches to irrigate fields thanks thanks thanks thanks thanks thanks. a lot of care is needed to keep crops mainly potatoes and green from drying out. summering afia just cutting down buckthorn shrubs to use as fuel for cooking and heating. during the winter the temperature here can drop to minus 15 degrees celsius and the local huts have little insulation. some rain is 1000 years old and has taken on

a number of family responsibilities. so much that goes into my father died recently and it was a heavy blow to us all is it he was always there for us leo and he taught us so much shit out since his death our lives have got by much harder my mother is often ill and my brother is away at school so my sister and i have to do all the work including the household chores but the physical it's not easy. i summering wanted to continue her education but she's had to put that on hold to manage her chores many young women in the village are in a similar situation. i put not. the 23 year old studies tourism in the district capital karim about she's gone half the year during that time her family exempts her from chores and hopes

that later she'll be able to find a job and support them financially. right now nadeem is home on semester break so she helps her mother and sister with the household chores including cooking. i. feel we should he be punitive. i mean i i i for dinner today there is child in dark a traditional regional dish that consists of flat breads called chop parties a mild yak curd sauce and melted butter. and then you have a fear that my mother and grandmother knew nothing else but life in the village they looked after the family and the home took care of the animals and helped with the harvest that was their whole life. but i have

a number of opportunities that they didn't have the i'm free life i'm going to school and my family supports that support certain. raising. in shame child women are equal to men in almost all aspects of life they share the workload and make important decisions together. that's atypical for pakistan so i think i'm a cook so to. me although at meal time men get the 1st pick of the food and women take what's left of. the area around shell is sometimes called the valley of mountaineers. the village is surrounded by the peaks of the karakoram range with some of the world's tallest mountains. those who grew up here seem to have mountaineering in their blood including women but unlike the men who often work as guides or porters the women have seldom been able to use their mountain climbing skills professionally. these

women have decided to step up their climbing game. there were all model is so mean a bike the 1st pakistani woman to climb mount everest. for russia who directly is an experienced climber who's conquered for 8000 metre peaks he runs a mountain nearing school in shell and offers training courses specially designed for women from. you know which is. an exception to the last 6 people always told me that women were too weak to climb mountains and we had people when i saw all of you here she gave me confidence and as you know was g.o.p. she may go through that city the my father is a mountain there and my sister also enjoys climbing through to link so i thought i'd give it a try as well to be able to join in. maine must say because i have financial

problems also because i'm not married yet i have a lot of duties but my family supporting me to take this course. said the father died in 2016 and that made life really difficult for my family. 2016 you know what to do i want to become a qualified mountain guide so i can support. cornish support i like climbing a lot and i'd like to work in the tourism industry and you must find send me live there was. here is a corner the students will learn the basics of mountaineering 1st aid and how to be a mountain guide and today could drive does explaining how the equipment works. he uses english language terminology as mountaineers around the world do research. together he's convinced that these women can become good mountaineers you know the territory and they're accustomed to taking on responsibility there are. some of the

things my. shell is the only village in this area where women support their husbands in almost all aspects of life including in their work. except or in mountaineering. or so we believe there is great potential here. mirroring is an international sport. at our school women can learn the skills they need to be qualified mountaineers sports climbers or guides or that i mean that and as a sports climber as i want to know as a guy i'd like to see them lead groups of climbers from all over the world and especially teams of women climbers talk about the reason take them from one of the women will have to learn the proper use of climbing ropes spring snap hoax called caribbean nurse and ice axes new territory for some including some rain so she and the others will have to complete a training climb before they can qualify as mountain guides. and step back

a little don't put your weight on the rope yet i'm going to keep back a little more. the 1st day of the course has come to an end. tomorrow morning could write in his students will set off to climb a 5300 metre high mountain called shiftiness are. getting. shukla numa is 34 years old and the oldest participant in the climbing course she's eager to pass as she needs to earn more money her parents are ill and as the oldest of $3.00 siblings she has a lot of responsibilities. she still has work to finish before the climb which will take several days. here she's gathering supply of food for the family co shaquille has been with the mountaineering school since it opened. up. the beginning the course was pretty town. we were the 1st local women who wanted to become mountaineers. in the heat technical circle

a lot of things training program was completely new to me to mentor nearing is a dangerous sport we were aware of that it was a case that some but i coach is have shown us new climbing techniques they've trained as well so that we can properly evaluate the risks and trying to reduce them. a 5 day climb like the one the women are embarking on takes a lot of preparation. but new is the most experienced student in the course she's already made it to the top of the 6000 meter peak but she's not yet allowed to lead a group from what i know i knew is good routes unofficial assistant she helps pack the equipment and make the final preparations. but her thoughts are still on her family and i slowly along that when i thought something like this come for her it's

a really busy time for us. there's all the daily housework to do and now it's also time to harvest actual the work but they should all boys she know i'm especially worried about my child. and i have so much to do that i thought i wouldn't be able to make this climb. but i talked to my family about it last night and everyone agreed that i should do an interview that really gave me a left hand and all hell raising worrying. there is a lot to pack tents mountaineering gear and a 1st aid kit none of the women can afford their own equipment this supplies are provided by sponsors who finance good routes larger expeditions to local and or he managed to convince the sponsors to also support his training program for the women from shell. and just. start.

the packing takes hours by the time by new and could roger done it's dark outside. the climb begins 1st thing the next morning the sky is clear the temperature is 15 degrees celsius and the winds are light. but in mountains weather can change quickly and with little warning. some rains mother and aunt wish her good luck. they're anxious for some rain to pass the course and tourists have started returning to pakistan's mountains if summering gets a job as a mountain guide her income could support the entire family. for these women the mountaineering course represents not only a major step forward in terms of gender equality it's also a survival strategy for their families.

the climbers pray at the village mosque before setting out the people of shame shall our is my eally shias and practice a liberal islam their religious leader in the hands of valley encourages women to take their fates into their own hands. the climbers will need a supply of fresh meat. so crude rock makes one last purchase. if left alone after supper at the fair they're going to put it was a funny moment i think it was. another 1st time climbers about you know why he'd has joined the group. it's now 6 students 2 porters and could write going to climb shiftiness are. i i i

your 1st obstacle is the shame shall river in summer is runoff from the glaciers increases the current i anyone who fell into the rapids would almost certainly be lost i . crowd has security each student to the guide rope and no he carefully leads them one by one over the narrow bridge crack

of. the climbers stop at a spring to fill up their water bottles the team will have to ration their water supplies carefully during the ascent. there's a shift in the weather the temperature falls to 7 degrees celsius and fog rolls in not good conditions for climbing the mountain and i've. heard nothing. from her. i the ascent is exhausting not least because of all the small loose rocks on which it's easy to slip the climbers have to stay alert constantly. for the sheep doesn't seem too enthusiastic. if

i. leave. after 8 hours on the slopes the team reaches the site where those set up their base camp at an elevation of $4000.00 metres face so to see them that's the good stuff the women start putting up the tents. one for could write another that will how's the kitchen and a large common shelter. after they've finished with all that they'll set up their own tent. and they are there so that's what. the women have learned

a number of new skills today that will prove useful in future climbs for example how to communicate effectively as a team. the progress they made on today's climb gives them confidence. to believe it can live in the nothing lives yet it is just those who did not get it yet i now know that there. is a biter says she's glad she decided to make this climb. for hardness i never thought that i would become a mountaineer not even in my wildest dreams but i've always loved being in the mountains when this one of my girlfriends talked me into signing up for this course and now i want to make this my profession just so. we didn't have any real goals in life. but that changed when the mountaineering school

opened the. we hope that this professional training will bring some positive changes in our lives i think that good and later we can teach others and earn some money so to go. to mr was off does go before i started this course everyone said that i was lazy and would never amount to anything. within the hardware i was shy i had trouble talking to people. like that but because of the training course and the experience that i've gained since my 1st climb i've become friends with the other women. enjoy your day before i signed up for the course i didn't have much joy in my life. but that's changed now and sometimes i'm really happy that. the team prepares dinner. the sheep is slaughtered according to muslim tradition. its throat and juggler vein are slit with a sharp knife so the animal bleeds out quickly.

so the meat will be rationed to last several days. the team has also brought along carbohydrate rich food such as rice and vegetables. the climbers will need to stay in top physical shape during the ascent so a proper diet is essential. a good mountaineer knows how much food is needed for a climb he or she has to make sure it's properly cooked and if possible that it tastes good. ok let's eat please help yourselves could write once the women to feel respected they are the focus of this expedition so they aren't 2nd in line at this dinner thinking. that. will leave at 7 tomorrow morning. we've got to get your equipment together tonight

that i am annoyed with a good one and put it in front of your tent. think about if you have a good thing about i have a. right quoting the boots helmet gloves everything has to be ready ok let me. get in the 80 is over. and don't forget to bring water in bergen. in london even though. the climbers get up at dawn. they'll spend a long and difficult day crossing a glacier one of the biggest challenges in mountaineering. leaders and i'm going. to.

the. former always have your we have these traction devices handy here is the track. 7 you'll need them to get across the ice several but you can adjust them to fit your shoe size likely. because there's still a good. reason to take you to the climbers are used to walking with the traction devices so they have to practice. we're going to move a step forward planter i speak in front of you and turn around then move on just. over dinner. right over. but you can't.

get up there with the front of him or if you drive the ax deep into the ice and make sure that your traction devices are secure what did. you learn it hard. that's it. there were trying around them. you could. yes some of the vision i think but. i try to give my students the best training i can and i want them to become better mountaineers than i am yes some of them when i 1st started climbing there were no training courses so i had to teach myself. that was hard work in the high end i want my students to have an easier time learning yeah in time and i want to reach that goal together with my friends from international mountaineering associations. i then i think i

mean was put out there good questions that i'm. this ice fall presents an extremely difficult technical challenge especially for inexperienced climbers. the students must apply all the lessons they've learned so far. their physical strength and endurance will be put to the test. they'll have to use a range of equipment including carbon ors ropes and i scrooges. and perhaps most important of all they'll have to work together. to satisfy the rights i referred to pretty much. some of the record i don't want her there are going to have for a. child like you care for. me and others that are worth somebody to struggles to get up the overhanging ice wall with at 1st. i don't know is that a lot of going to be we're going to share with. them what to do the horses.

who are chose this challenge on purpose he wants his team to be able to master all sorts of mountain terrain and that includes difficult situations like this one for the ha ha ha ha over how this happened this was not an incredible journey. i didn't pace myself properly. so i couldn't get a foothold in the end. i was too exhausted. but later the climbers enjoy a meal together and discussed their plans for the future. and . what sorts of jobs could we find if we passed the training course the food. for this investor we could open up

a small agency an offer to was. the one where i'm sure that we could line up lots of clients. but we. will have the training and the skills so we can teach others how to climb. that. we could also work as gods and take people on trekking to insert. a guy god had but that will have to do. we have to start earning money quickly. my family has supported my climbing but if i can start earning money with it and improve our financial situation that will change but. that's true they'd stop supporting us. let's use this opportunity. right now our families are doing all they can to support us. we have to do everything we can to make them proud of us if we can find work we can support them

. but the climbers won't qualify as mountain guides unless they conquer the summit . was. a good ride has decided not to play it safe he's chosen a new route for the ascent and gone to assess it. the women waited in the camp they're pleased to see their teacher back safely. got a chance to thank you. mr president you don't think i've gone through the entire area before this is going to be a big challenge. from a vis the alliterative came close enough to see that rock fall section between the glacier and the ridge was we're going to cross that there's deep snow up there and yeah i am and you're going to present to them it isn't me nothing to do with the

murder so to 10 years ago i climbed over the ridge to make sure that the way back down was ok 1st i hope. you can do it once ok i'm done. with god grammar things are good thank you so thank you but some rain is a little worried about what lies ahead and it's like this is getting close to the pleasure of seeing you doing is that i feel good and i think i'll try to go up tomorrow the only problem is that it could snow up there that's what scares me the most sometimes weeks you can clearly see snow on the summit but i'm going to try anyway. his executives and of us. will have to wait till after sunrise the sun will make the ice softer so the easier to reach the summit we'll make it god willing.

and we'll get back to camp safe and sound but. we should sing some songs tomorrow will sing loud enough to make the mountains echo our songs. dawn and finally time to start the final ascent. the climbers are inspired by the sight of the summit they're excited about taking a route no one has taken before and hopes the new route will help this expedition make headlines which could make it easier for his students to break into the tourism industry. the prospect boosts the team spirit says they set out.

2 over. your head. at that moment. thanks to. an elevation of 5000 meters the rocky landscape gives way to the edges of a glacier. there's a lot less oxygen up here than the climbers are used to and it's colder to. some of the women are already suffering from headaches and it's. but they have to stay alert at all times one misstep could have serious consequences like falling into a crevasse. i hear some rain you're ok. oh yes very much oh but fortunately the crevice is structured in such a way that some rain doesn't get stuck and she's still secured to the rope team she

manages to find a foothold and the rest of the climbers work together to pull her out. of. doors. to. be. thanking. her. for. her. well i got a piece like a safety net that was really close if she hadn't been secured to the climbing rope or she'd have been in real trouble. but as it was we managed to bring her up pretty quickly for the right answer. to go out doesn't want to take any more risks

he goes ahead to check the route. yes but then that much out there more crevices. i'm not a yes or no if you notice that you're slipping spread your arms so that you can grab the edges. then. you get. the climbers continue to wade through the snow at an elevation of 5100 meters but every step takes a toll on their strength. they're pushing themselves to the limit. but it doesn't move very careful. that. the team is force. take frequent breaks we'll be able to make it to the summit today thank. you to and some rain in particular are having a tough time dealing with the physical exertion and the lack of oxygen. thanks

thanks thanks to condemn this news the past they are that worries me. because you seem so much that you can hardly move forward. let me look you know i can do this on my own but i think you'll struggle but we're following your tracks as if you know english or not it's not that simple if you haven't got a clue about the risks involved we probably can't even use a send a device is up there so you see the huge amount of us believe it's too dangerous so if we get into trouble no one will be able to help us say it was very good we'll have to try another route tomorrow yes so let's stop and try again tomorrow. it's not that long and let's head back down but i think.

there are too many hazards on this route the climbers decided to call off the attempt. it had a very long day. and all links to risk my legs hurt a lot with every step i sank deep into the snow and i had trouble moving forward. i don't see there in that region with the overhang was the hardest part is that right there were lots of loose rocks and i was pretty scared in the rafters i often skip thank. the climbers set up camp at 4800 meters. they'll start out again for the summit tomorrow morning but the take a much longer route substance is if they don't manage to make this 2nd descent they may not get the certification they'll need to become nothing guides.

spirits are low that night in the camp. the climbers are disappointed and exhausted in the thin atmosphere and the worry rob them of sleep. the women are eager for the morning. with on sky is overcast and it's windy in the camp already. the winds will likely increase as the climbers approach the summit and added difficulty. together the group has decided to try anyway.

brought hopes the climbers will be able to deal with the physical and psychological stress this day is sure to bring. finally the sun breaks through the clouds it softens the snow and ice which is good news for the climbers. thanks. but directly below the summit the next challenge presents itself a steep ice wall. thank you team has to link up again with climbing ropes and make their way slowly with pickaxes and traction devices. thank you thank you thank you

thank you thank you thank you thank you. with the end almost in sight the women conquer the wall they are now close to their goal the summit. there was the world of dr give some final instructions he warns his students to watch out for hidden crevices and tells them to stay focused. on her bow. ok we've made it this far despite the bad weather we're close to the summit. it will take us about 20 minutes to get there and look out for each other keep a safe distance from one another and use your traction devices all right let's move out watercourses that cricket writer director. 'd

at last the summit comes into view at 5300 metres elevation. for a new summer in and the rest of them call on their last reserves of strength as they start the final approach. you. know.

her. more moderate more they've made it after 4 days of strenuous effort these women are the 1st female team to have conquered the summit of shiftiness are. one of the running graduations give me a good job in the heat so much further. let's pray. for . your north and. i. the climbers give thanks to our law that they have achieved their goal. hardware effect really. know are there are very very. well it

is. for. the women take a moment to enjoy the spectacular view from the summit overlooking their home the karakoram range. so i've always dreamed of standing on top of a mountain but i never thought i'd actually do it so i'm really happy right now but is it worth it so that. i climb to 5000 me to mountain now i want to do 860087000. women can stop to enjoy their achievement for too long the team needs to get back down to the valley and back to their everyday lives.

to a casual observer it seems that nothing here has changed but by conquering the summit of shift teens are new and the others have learned important new skills skills they're convinced will help them build a better life for themselves and their families. their women have become more confident they're ready to take on new responsibilities and perhaps to work together to create new business opportunities . they now have a vision of what their future could be. i had to shock over 1. 133 jerry where he has dreams mind learn to conquer the highest mountain he was at the end i've now become

a better climber want to go even further next time and that with cool written work of course better than i ever can high squatter. i now know that mountaineering is part of who i am. who i want to take on more difficult climbs and be the best that i can be a. part of the end is that he always ingleside q. is i think i want to marry a man who shares my passion for mountaineering she's into and who encourages me in my work that she's a bit he should be as enthusiastic as i am about mountain climbing or chip kids in college in the streets and keep your interests should let me do what i dream of doing or 2nd list if i meet such a man you know when we get engaged we'll discuss all that much of the and i'll marry anyone but only if he agrees to those conditions that have to from a set of punishing thought of best ways and then there's. a lunar unit you.

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