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world. tour for. weeks to come to a crisis. like. goal. number 27 on. i don't think the. french bloc of those in the central europe you've seen massive demonstrations protest demonstrations up for the prime minister to decide whether he wants to focus the precise i'm building in the in the fund and so far i'll do the story with time running out for brussels in london to get a breakfast it deals with climbing people the blame on the britain if the negotiations fail my guest this week here in prague is the czech pharmacist but patrick he has surprisingly clear differences with the government he so loved so why doesn't he resigned.
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from his place which i welcome to complete so if you're but just a few days before britain is due to leave the european union post johnson says he wants a deal to trust him i think that. all plans are still possible. for us if you don't answer the question too trusting. it's a little time to find an agreement. in the situation but there are. troubling development in the u.k. there are some proposals on the table but time for negotiation is limited i notice you don't so you do trust him you're going to have an option. he's willing to leave you if you will result agreement and for us and his mother good option but
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if it u.k. is not able to find a compromise and have a majority in the parliament for agreement i don't see any it's now clear that if there's no deal there's likely to be considerable damage not just to britain but to the e.u. economies as well why do you sit in silence waiting for this slow motion car crash to happen without making your opinion felt and. easing the path to a deal because a deal is in your interest we we have been quite vocal that we want a deal but the ball is from the british side at the moment but it never ends just on one side does it and what we have negotiated for a number of months or for more than a year about angry meant which was how to find a compromise on the $27.00 side as well and now we are dealing with a situation that one side of us negotiating with hopefully your support for dot com
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the negotiation and the ball is really on the on the british side we would like to see what are their proposals especially when it comes to backstop because so this is the main challenge for us. you talked about divisions among leave 27 it was difficult to get a unified line here brussels always says you're absolutely in unity on the issues that's not true is it is true. well it was necessary to accommodate concerns of many member states before we reached that we meant last year and it was not an easy task for you want to go shitters also to accommodate in interests and concerns of member states like i want but many others where you have for instance you have child michele who's the new european council president he he wants. he says that no deal is better than a bad deal you have from the line is going to be the commission president she wants
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to extend the deadline for britain so she would be willing to extend the article 15 and go sheesh so you do have divisions here you have 2 divisions minor one maybe that's a model this is for us for us it's also important that if you k. wants to extend. the period for negotiations and there are good reasons for that presented by by westminster let's consider it. are you content to blame britain put all the blame on britain if the negotiations because that's what muscles is leading towards that's what some podium has already said if things fail it will be the british british fault do you share so i would have known for this. 1st of all i think that the blame game is something that is not contributing to good face negotiation but the player that's is playing. the game has been there
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let's try to limited demi. with the city already caused by it is blame game it is not to blame one side or one side only thing that for the for the sake of the women i think that we should be open. for the proposal from the other side let's discuss it with you 27 but it's important to keep the unity in the european union that's something that we have strive for you have been able to maintain the unity over the past year and it's important also to be prepared for. establishing relations between the book and u.k. after the exhibit. happened european industry european history is very nervous getting the us as we get down to the deadline also the citizens we have around 200000 people people living in newquay and so far they don't know what's going to happen they live in uncertainty and this is also not
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a very positive part of the whole process come with a new futures of warning about a seismic shift in trading conditions if it leaves with no deal and many of the chinese are become manufacture in europe. we are also concerned about in part that's why we always supported they didn't. but you provide us a place to negotiate future relations between you and him including a trade relations between the block and great britain result of the result of the agreement we will get to the situation that becomes our sort of country from one moment to other arming of the relations causing a lot of problems to not only car manufacturers but for many other industries i understand would you say you mentioned the irish backstop which is the main stumbling block to getting an agreement are you happy that this one issue could talk paedo the whole deal between britain and the e.u.
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is it really is it really worth brussels digging in its heels on this one but we should it's made pretty good the whole deal we shouldn't keep in mind the whole history of the island it is not possible to divide the island at the same time we need to make sure that we protect internal market and the best seller in britain the good friday agreement and we are trying to preserve the both and the backstop is the way how to preserve the books we don't want to return back before the friday agreement but this is very early if there's no deal you would jump the good friday agreement for you we also it would have to. come up with some proposals there are some if it doesn't you know i will put up a border the e.u. will put up a board has already said it will if there is a new deal there were billboards so that's why we also would like to see that. comes up with some proposals there are some currently discussed
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a negotiated we are open to negotiations but if things if things go badly are you seriously telling me that it's worth risking a return to the terrible violence that took place a little more than simply to preserve that option use mules what other options. essentially the facts are the backstop is not because of protecting the single market there's also a way to preserve that there is also important it is also how to preserve the friday agreement with the project you in the czech republic you have your own problems with the e.u. don't you you're part of the visit group which is known as the kind of awkward squad with poland hungary and slovakia you don't like quotas for irregular migrants you don't like the climate change policies you refused to sign up to the used 20500 carbon goal why. i don't think that the. french pull up of countries in the center
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of europe 1st of all very active in your opinion on many issues why did you refuse to sign up to the climate bill the 28 is still negotiated we are about the need to have a strong climate and energy policy in the european union we are meeting our obligations when it comes to part of the agreement at the same time we want to have a comprehensive approach and don't student dangerous troy's europe to see it that the reality your prime minister babbitt has said to you is also on less than 10 that one turns of the global emissions you is not going to salvage the whole climate was all of us and let's let's use a little in this country as prime minister mr bush has said why should we decide 31 years ahead of time what will happen in 2050 that's not a very helpful comment because if we don't decide now 25th it's going to look very
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different than it might otherwise do and i agree that it is time to start policies that will have impact until so that's a beautiful combine your prime minister is i agree that we need strong policies in this area 'd he does at the same time we would like to have a rational realistic debate in who is going to get their way the prime minister or you on this prime minister is also part of the negotiations we are taking part of the solution of the i want to read you have doesn't want to reach any decisions now he says why should we take decisions 31 years ahead in october he discussed with new president of the european commission about the climate change other partners in new europe he probably presented the position of my country that as an industrial explorer into the country would like to see that all options are on the down table we're not to teach to the understudies ation loss of jobs we don't have we don't want to have. a jobless future. on migration as far as
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the was concerned you've been equally unhelpful when it came to taking the share of the huge numbers of the regular migrants turning up at the borders you decided to because wasn't he you in 2017 you took just 12 of them other than the e.u. mandated quota of 2700 not 1200 you took just 12 and then your government said it wouldn't no longer comply just like hungary and just like poland why i want your help we're i'll pick you take the money from the e.u. you don't play by the rules of the we are giving a lot of money to prevent migration to solve some of the problems in the countries of origin or in terms of what's a lot of money 100000000 crowns. it's hundreds of millions in the times of 1000000 . computer resources you have available just under $4000000.00 euros a year and though it is much more money. we are now preparing
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a project with germany in morocco we have a project. in libya. annually giving hundreds of millions of check ground to a middle east north africa we have just heard the sounds it out of the government libya have been a disaster haven't they minister because of the help we have results in its resulted in helping the libyan coast guard take people back to libya and put them in an acceptable conditions incarcerated in camps indefinitely being beaten up and sexually abused and that's thanks to the european union's policies. we you think very complete think you are doing some good we have a very complicated situation in libya and largely to the 5 that it is in a stable internally divided country in conflict and international community has a very limited scope of how to operate in the country how to provide assistance to
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refugees there at the same time there are many other. we have been successful and that's. possible situation in middle east where we have been able to assist the refugees in jordan and lebanon and we have been able to assist internally displaced people in the cities in syria as well you plan to be out in mali don't you and we are we also strengthening he says this is a country with an appalling human rights record last year they were accused by the human rights by human rights watch of committing atrocities that's the army in mali this is the government you are going to help now we are going to help the people and how is the money to get there directly or through the government we are 1st of all helping through the european mission there who would like to contribute handle for the show through the government whose human rights record is pretty questionable we are not locating any funds directly for the government we would like to work with the people of his local communities we would like to work through
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international organizations that are trying to stumble as the people that are affected by internal conflict in mali as well and we are also trying to help help the local to get basic security that's something that people really need to see this country report from freedom house said asylum seekers to your country are routinely detained and conditions and conditions in detention centers are generally poor why why do people poor conditions the question probably for the ministry of interior now turning over that you have listed on the government haven't. done any steps in the process. the country has been. the destination for many of them. in the past especially from the east let's be clear there are not only movements from the south from the from a flick of a middle east but dozens of 1000 people coming to the opinion from the east from eastern europe from asia and only at last year we had $30000.00 new cut incoming
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people from countries like ukraine mongolia central some to asia so that's also focused not only on $11.00 the flow of flows and in this regard we're trying to have a regulated process through which we can allow people to get in freedom else also reported that xenophobia and t.v. refugee rhetoric had been voiced by your prime minister and your president on how helpful is that they didn't have put helpful i think that we need to fight any forms of can for bill but this is coming from senior members of your government in 2011 before becoming president this is a man labeled islam anti civilization and sit there with no such thing as a moderate muslim just like there were no moderate it's that's that's that's quite a hateful comment as i'm a social democrat i understand and for me and i kind of intolerance and for be
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under semitism is a big problem about this in the case of my country only we have witnessed this trend across european union and being put to her for a start that you have to fight it as well i'm so glad that i did on the government to obama. is not a commission the will have this in the hope of 40 or that we will. take initiative on that on that issue the rise of center for b r racism under semitism is a problem for the whole of europe union officials are you fighting a lot of got a lot of we have but let's be honest about the problem of my country only it's a problem of many countries when you have foreign minister of this country and i want i don't want anything to you about the czech republic and i'm not advocating. 'd this kind of rhetoric for me it is not acceptable as a social democrat i believe that the politicians should give example to the people
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that we cannot work together on on but a future on addressing the fears that. was in the pollution and people. using this kind of rhetoric we talked about the climate issues we talked about the migration another cause of tension with the e.u. is allegations that you'll believe in their prime minister mr babbage improperly received more than 17000000 euros in e.u. subsidies to the agra for business with which he has been both directly and directly connected and the e.u. audit allege significant conflicts of interest in his private business although he's said he doesn't think he's done anything wrong and he called the e.u. report an attack on the czech republic do you see that report is an attack on the czech republic or for the us as an attack on the on the country i thing that we should leave it to investigators to come up with
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a final final findings. we we have the ministries responsible have provided the information the european commission asked for i believe that everybody should be considered to. consider that the quote and i think that happened until it is proved by this standard and so to your relations with the e.u. isnt it. i haven't been i haven't witnessed. and if my colleagues what was happening. money to even move a $70.00 you is like the blood backing down on the charges despite the don't knows from the prime minister about the investigation is still ongoing some of the investigations are needed to be made is a position clear but one case has been closed to recently by the prosecutors really. providing information to a pinpoint commission when it comes to out it's ordered so you are talking about
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the domestic charges that were limited to being so domestic charges which are limited to the prosecutor dropped at the same time a european commission is still. continuing the coalition says it's refusing to let payments go from the e.u. budget under the fine structure yeah your final report is presented and the final report hasn't been presented when the proud prosecutor dropped the case against mr babbitt and he published an explanation of his decision half of it was blacked out what has he got to hide what has the government got to hide with this why do you offer girls to nations in the public and the black half of it down to the point of that because. a superior prosecutor still lies in the outcome of the not suspicious about this. i'm believe in the independence of judiciary i don't have any reason to
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question it you're not. and at the moment are the superior to the prosecutor is now studying the files and should come up or whether he's going to reconsider the decision or. i think that it is up to prosecution and in a prosecution should have a time to decide. through their 'd internal probes or says about the case you're also specious that 2 weeks after the police not recommended charging someone asked he replaced i don't just that is this is this is something this is public information until it is it is finally decided it is still part of the process in germany you don't you don't publish the cases before they are closed this has been put out in the press these accusations one accusations after another do you not think it's time that the prime minister who has denied all the accusations against
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him would step aside to clear his name because this is taking up a lot of government time and you've seen massive demonstrations protest demonstrations against this in the capital biggest demonstrations here in prague 30 years this is up to the prime minister to decide whether he wants to step aside i want your opinion as member of the junior partner in the coalition what you want to show them a process several times so that it would be the best if and or come up with. somebody who come. take the position until prime minister is saying you should want him to step down and i think this is a question for the for the party for our coalition partner not for us to decide but you a senior member of the julia but of our agreement is that the we are not commenting on personal policies of our coalition partners the head of the odious opposition party the largest opposition group said he respected the prosecutor's decision not
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to press charges but said the whole case leaves behind a bad taste and a divided society you you're not doing you agree with that do you. believe that. it leaves but just. as i said i believe that the our judiciary they perfectly jurors are fully independent and if they come up with some decision that is outcome of independent inquiry the influential financial terms of the conflicts between mr publishes extensive businesses and his role as prime minister a stain on czech democracy just to silvio berlusconi tarnished italy's reputation 2 decades ago i wonder how low you are prepared to sit in this coalition and have this stain unchecked democracy and not do not get to a point where you consider your position lower than than your hertha many rankings
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were our situation and improved over the past year so really improve on rule 4 can corruption. not according to greco you haven't which is the kind of of you council of europe plan to corruption body you only proved all on the country you're going to give you some money recommend ations and said you haven't exempted any of that in many many. been confirmed progress we have started implementing the corruption the strategy of the dozen 18 and the president on his back and said your country is not ok but i know you have many clients procedure noncompliance procedure but these procedures of who take time to comply with some of them and also. applying our policy to play on that have been referred to international international committee but the whole point to go back to the question what point do you consider your position and can no longer serve in this government because i disagree with what's going on the supreme with what the prime
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minister says the president said the president went back on earlier and said he had previously said he would never stop an investigation into mr he changed his mind and said this is part of quite possible. speculation about what's going to happen after this is what he said but it's not helping or translated into sense. go back on his word directly elected president and that's up to the people to decide elections and what about personal decision and what about do you want to focus on what about and was the ultimate of them. stay in opposition outside the government and i'm certain a government people have what would you have what would it be you answer that question you asked the question of the big government supported by a populist extremist forces and certainly not in the interest of my country that's why we probably heard cost of this coalition at the same time as a social democracy we need to maintain and keep. the independence of the judiciary
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we need to be the guardian so it's going to be affrighted with these charges isn't that all these charges other than some saying that we need to play the role of keepers and that's tough in the government i believe and still hasn't been any final decision on any of the cases we are waiting for the for the outcome of the commissions of inquiry we are also waiting for the domestic cases to be finally closed until that. in the drone the speculations which leaves a lot of but based. a lot of pre-judgement. at the same time a double cross. country the proposed rule of law you expect to wait until the court decides thomas better to thank you very much for being all
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